Originally Posted by bavlondon2
Pretty much all popular memory card formats can go up to 4gig.
All Nokia N9* range phones have had WIFI since the N90 and that was how many years ago? lol Like 2 or 3?
The only reason its a big screen is becasue its all touch screen. Otherwise the biggest you get is like 2.4 or 2.6 inches normally.
I was jealous in a way that you were getting it before but the lack of video recording was the final straw really. No 3G, no mms, only a 2mp cam not even with AF.
Maybe you "yanks" are easily pleased (hence why you guys have a 2 year contract but it will only be 1 in the UK LOL) and ripped of but in Europe we are a bit ahead which is why apart from the interface its not impressing everyone like in the USA.
This is not an iPhone bashing thread, so let's clarify that right now. Overall it's going to be a great product. It just has some issues as far as I'm concerned. The speed is the paramount one. If it's faster than I expect, I may get one sooner rather than later.
But really.."no video recording" was the final straw? That's dumb. I could care less about that.
Originally Posted by backtomac
In a way I think the focus on specs is overdone. The success or failure of the iPhone will depend on two factors, IMO. Is it easy and enjoyable to use and is it reliable. While I would prefer 32gbs of storage it isn't a deal breaker for me. My greatest concern is ATT and their service.
But if the real-world speed sucks, that's a problem. Also, I'm not asking for 32GB right now. But 8/16 would be nice.
Originally Posted by tetzel1517
Same here, which is why I'm waiting on a 3G iPhone. I'll either be living in NYC or DC when that happens, so I know the service will be available.
Frankly, I'm glad it doesn't do 3G right now... can't afford the thing!!
If the speed was right and it had a few other improvements, I'd find
Originally Posted by Jules
The battery is not user replaceable so once that starts to feel a bit old the whole phone has to go back to the Apple mothership for repair. Theres no memory card slot, no chat app, no voice dialing, no GPS, no third-party apps, no Java or Flash support, no MMS support.
'nuff said. It's just a bloody toy.
It's going to be much more than a toy, but your list is spot on. The battery could be a serious issue. It's a $500-600 device. It should damn well have a replaceable battery.
A mem card slot doesn't do much for me. It's nice I guess, but not necessary.
The lack of a chat app is very surprising...
....as is its lack of support for MMS. That's a 2002 technology for the Christ's sake.
In fairness, third party apps will come, and fast.
Again though, if I really examine what's important to me, it's speed. I can live without chat and without MMS...easily. But the speed and storage issues (and no wireless sync) are bothersome.
Originally Posted by physguy
Its really amazing to me that there is such a focus on spec and feature list vs usability and ease of use. To me having all of the above would make it a 'Toy' as opposed to having something that allows me to get what I want done faster and easier.
1) memory card - 8gigs is plenty
2) chatt app???? sms
3) voice dialing - this is the only one that I think could be critical but then again its easy for them to add if it really is
4) GPS - who cares I can read a map I've never use the one on my car - a waste of money for 99% of the time.
5) no Java or Flash - nothing could have made me happier. I dread (and avoid) web sites that depend on Java and click through 99% of Flash stuff as superfluous
6) MMS - email
Now the whole point is that there are many markets that have many different desires and needs. The dismissal of the iPhone because of lack of feature, vs consideration of the whole package, has become a waste of energy. I thought the four major reviews that are out are the best look about.
First, I'm not dismissing it. I'm just not getting one. Now...
1. No, it's not. A high quality MPEG-4 feature can take 500-900MB. Then you have pictures, TV episodes, calendars, and contacts....and music. Even my small music collection is like 12-15GB.
2. Not the same. Jesus.
3. Easy to add does not equal "present." Not a deal breaker for me, but it's weird given that this has been around for at least 7 years.
4. I see your point...and you'll notice I didn't point it out. However, consider that we're talking about a premium priced
5. Yes, but a lot of sites use flash now. Java annoys the shit out of me, but flash is needed. Fortunately it should be coming soon.
6. I guess...but what if you want to send pix to a regular mobile phone user? Not a huge deal, but noticeably absent.
Originally Posted by BRussell
Haha, I love it. "no MMS, it's just a toy."
Yes, but any objective observer would have to agree that the iPhone is better than most phones on its feature list too. Any phone that has a feature that the current iPhone doesn't have - say, video recording - is going to fall way short on a long list of other features, like built-in memory, size of screen, iTunes integration, etc. Of course, that feature list makes it expensive too.
That's quite true.
However, for someone like me it's a question of whether or not I plunk down $600 for one...plus tax, so it's $640.00. In other words, that's kind of a false dilemma you're using. If one is getting a smartphone anyway, you're right in that one will be hard pressed to find a better, more feature complete one. But for someone that probably wouldn't buy a smartphone, it's questionable whether or not an iphone is worth it, especially taking the speed, storage and other minor annoyances into account.