Originally Posted by backtomac
Go and try one out. It's easy to dismiss the iPhone based on a weak spec here(Edge) and a missing spec there(replaceable battery, additional storage), but the device is truly greater than the sum of it's parts( I know I sound like a broken record). I was going to wait for version 2 but since I tried one out at the ATT store that ain't gonna happen.
If you try it out and don't like then it's not for you.
I'm not dismissing it. I'm sure it is greater than it's sum. But some of my predictions have been accurate...like activation problems due to the initial surge. It's also still not in my budget and I have to finagle my way out of my contract. I still think I'm waiting.
Originally Posted by THT
I'm on the other side of the fence with this one. Voice dialing is more trouble than it is worth. The technology isn't good yet. You have to try multiple times sometimes. You have to concentrate on enunciating. This is telling me that the UI isn't good, and I'm not sure it will ever be useful UI mode outside of a few specific applications. I just dial with my hand now, and I drive a manual. And I use a Treo 650 to boot.
Who knows, maybe its because of the LG phones my wife and father have and I've developed bias due to it. They have a side key that activates driving mode. And boy is it easy to activate. It's pretty much automatic when my wife puts it in here purse. My father has big clumsy hands and he's taken to holding the phone by the antenna. Once it gets into driving mode (voice UI), it's inane! And its damn near impossible to switch it off because of menu confusion.
I'm sure Apple had hundreds of features it wanted to implement, but as is always with engineering project, one has finite resources and finite schedules. Things have to be left out of the final build. I'd imagine voice dialing fell below the line along with MMS.
Also, remember the philosophy. Apple isn't implementing a cell phone, it's re-inventing it. That means a lot of features need justification. Is voice dialing really that much of a UI enhancement to warrant implementation? Is MMS that much of an enhancement (especially when email is available).
Yup. The phone market is currently in a rage of featuritis.
It can be done well. It's not a deal breaker for me, because I have a BT built-in in my 07 Camry. It's voice system is remarkable. You actually have to speak the numbers or name normally as opposed to slowly/more enunciated...otherwise it basically asks you what the fuck is wrong with you. But really...it's proof it can be done in a very usable way. Oh, and I agree...the LG voice system is terrible.
Originally Posted by THT
I think the battery issue is overblown. I've been charging my cell phones every night ever since I've own them, and never had the need for replacing my battery. Statistically, I think people with battery problems will be quite a small fraction. Battery problems will exist for the iPhone, like everything with a battery has, but it'll be a pretty small fraction.
Remember though, it's not a cell phone. It has many more battery draining functions. We'll see. My ipod has been good so far, but that's with light use. Cell batteries usually downgrade for me within a year or two. I've had the same luck with laptop batteries.
Do you really want me to answer the question? Or are you thinking phones offered by US cellular companies only?
Whatever. I don't know anyone who even spends $300 much less $600. No one spends more than that. No one. If you can show me some examples, then do so. Anything you could find would be negligible anyway, at least in terms of units sold. The iPhone is a premium priced product. Apple has essentially said this in that they are going after the premium-user/prosumer/techo geek market.
We can have a pissing contest if you like, but the iPhone is a premium priced product. It's a waste of energy to argue otherwise.
There's no magic to cell phone quality. Every company has the same problems, it just various with geography, the state of the upgrade and maintenances, blah blah.
One thing about iPhone though. I thought Safari on EDGE was very very very good. (Don't expect miracles.) Even Youtube was reasonable on EDGE. Again ymmv.
1. I agree with that. It seems everyone has the same experience. My Dad has had all kinds of problems with Sprint hardware (actually..their software being incompatible with moto hardware) My brother had ATT years ago and hated it. VZW is pretty much shit. Dead spots everywhere, even in this suburban area no far from the city.
Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood
Of course you were. Nevertheless, it still may not matter in the long run.
Yes, it matters. It's more money per month than I pay now, and the device costs about 5x as much to begin with. It matters.