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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Very cool. Is that a large Apple Store?



Don't forget about the AT&T and Apple Store online sales. I think that could easily double the numbers.

I still have a 2-4 week ship date, but this is a typical Apple strategy. I'm hopeful it will ship within a few days.

att line was about 300+ deep but there system crash and they have to wait a extra hour, manager also came out and said not to worry, everyone was goin to be able to get one, i think it all has to do with location, stores at the mall always get a huge amount
post #42 of 80
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Originally Posted by schoolboytim View Post

I live in Southern California and I went to 2 stores, one in Costa Mesa, and one in Whittier, and they both did not have ANY iPhones on hand. ZERO. They told us all they could do was have us place orders and we would get them before the stores even got their shipments. They said that we could have them by earliest on Tuesday (July 3rd)

Only a few AT&T stores in my area had iPhones actually on hand.. and I was told that those stores only received 20. (And the line at the Brea mall was 2,000+ people strong)


Um, no... The Apple store at Brea Mall was NOT 2,000+ people, it was 250 max.. I know because I was there.
post #43 of 80
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Originally Posted by jeffhrsn View Post

I'm sure someone, somewhere might say the same about a phone costing $25. It's all relative. $600 is not necessarily "big bux" to someone else. Lumping all prosperous people's children into the "unbearable" category is a bit presumptuous and not always likely to be accurate.

I'd go even further than that. Outright hatred of the rich demonstrates an attitude of simple bigotry. Spoiled children are as likely to have bad attitudes as those who grow up in poverty. The rich and poor are equally naive at times about the eachother's lives and lifestyles.
post #44 of 80
this is going off topic, but i have to agree. i said earlier that i would much rather have kids who are healthy, well behaved, respectful and responsible than have enough money to give each of them an iPhone. [and again i'm not buying my 2 year old or my 4 month old an iphone].

...back on topic: there were about a dozen people in line with me friday who said they were putting their phones on ebay for $2000. i mentioned at that time that i bet there would be way too many people with that idea and that he wouldn't even be able to make up the sales tax on the phone. he laughed at me. one just sold for $885. ohh well. i may not be rich but i'm not selling this thing for a $250 profit. ...another just sold for $705
post #45 of 80
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this is going off topic, but i have to agree. i said earlier that i would much rather have kids who are healthy, well behaved, respectful and responsible than have enough money to give each of them an iPhone.

I think the two don't necessarily correlate. Having one doesn't mean you can't have the other, it's not mutually exclusive.

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[and again i'm not buying my 2 year old or my 4 month old an iphone].

I agree that would be silly.
post #46 of 80
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this is going off topic, but i have to agree. i said earlier that i would much rather have kids who are healthy, well behaved, respectful and responsible than have enough money to give each of them an iPhone. [and again i'm not buying my 2 year old or my 4 month old an iphone].

...back on topic: there were about a dozen people in line with me friday who said they were putting their phones on ebay for $2000. i mentioned at that time that i bet there would be way too many people with that idea and that he wouldn't even be able to make up the sales tax on the phone. he laughed at me. one just sold for $885. ohh well. i may not be rich but i'm not selling this thing for a $250 profit. ...another just sold for $705

No,no,no!!! You were correct. Only 2 phones have sold thus far, both by either scammers or newbies who don't know any better. The number of bids for the newly listed phones is very low. The Buy-It-Now & Make=an-Offer formats for riduclous prices are receiving no offers at all. Those who bought iphones thinking they would make a killing this weekend on ebay were dead wrong--for now. If the iPhone turns into a Nintendo Wii epidemic--very high demand, very low supply, that will be a different story. Then a 10-40% premium over retail would be achievable as is seen every day with the Wii.

Edit: My data are based on an advanced search on ebay of completed listings to date.
post #47 of 80
50 sounds like the right number. I live in a small podunk town in the deep south and was # 32 in line. I waited less than an hour.

As for as kids with iPhones, I'm a dentist who bought one for my 16 year old daughter. It is cheaper than a MacBook and I get my laptop back. She put up $200 of her own money from baby sitting. Anyway she was eligible for a new phone and I wasn't and I get to play with it.

Our family will all have one eventually, we have 5 Macs and 5 iPods and eventually 5 iPhones in one form or another.
post #48 of 80
I was #76 at my att store (Union Square NYC) and the last phone was sold to someone about 10 people behind me.
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AA (Apple-oholics Anonymous)!

ajhill, you're a genious!
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I live in a small podunk town in the deep south

Dotham?
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Dotham?

farther west about 4 hours. Hurricanes Rita and Katrina went to either side of us.
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ajhill, you're a genious!

\ Please see the last sentence of post #3. (Darn, one doesn't get called a 'genius' very often, and when I was, I wasn't........) \
post #53 of 80
The AT&T guy said that AT&T stores sold out nation wide yesterday when I was in there asking questions about my plan. He also said the state of Michigan sold out in between the time that his store shut their doors to customers on Friday to set up for iPhone and re-opened at 6:00PM to sell it.. (Michigan in a different time zone obviously.)
His store sold out in an hour and a half = 300 Phones.
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post #54 of 80
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Here's the latest headline story from Bloomberg.

Apple's IPhone Sells Out at Most AT&T Stores, Swamping Network

"Shoppers snapped up as many as 200,000 iPhones the first day after the device went on sale June 29, according to Global Equities Research. While it was still available at all 164 Apple stores yesterday, AT&T said most of its 1,800 stores no longer had the phone in stock. AT&T is the only mobile-phone service that works with the iPhone."
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I didn't read the article but it sounds like they aren't including online sales. I know many people that have no problem waiting to receive their iPhone in the mail. Add at least 25% to that number.
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post #55 of 80
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Originally Posted by velorandy@mac.com View Post

As of Saturday night 8pm.... a salesperson at Apple Store in Troy, MI told me their supply of iPhones was getting extremely low.... but still had both models.

I got an 8GB from the Apple store at Somerset at 10:30am. I was the only one in the store. Well me and about 20 employees. They told me they were running low too.
post #56 of 80
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I got an 8GB from the Apple store at Somerset at 10:30am. I was the only one in the store. Well me and about 20 employees. They told me they were running low too.

Hey you there! Welcome to the Appleinsider forums jvergin. We get a little excited, maybe a bit crazy, and sometimes Apple fanatical around here but don't let that scare you away. Enjoy your stay.
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post #57 of 80
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I didn't read the article but it sounds like they aren't including online sales. I know many people that have no problem waiting to receive their iPhone in the mail. Add at least 25% to that number.

You are correct sir! On line sales are not included. I have no idea as to what percentage OLS would add to the total--no basis for even making a guess.
post #58 of 80
I bought an iphone this morning, but I haven't even taken the plastic off the box. I am afraid that I have made a mistake, after reading some other threads. My old phone is a Nokia 6682 that has given me grief from day one. I have been looking for a replacement and had not found one. My contract with Cingular was up in December and I have been hesitant to enter into a new one. Did I make a mistake? The Apple store I was at, said they were almost out of phones and all of the AT&T ones were out yesterday. The Apple store said they got a few this morning and I bought the last 8 gig.
post #59 of 80
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I bought an iphone this morning, but I haven't even taken the plastic off the box. I am afraid that I have made a mistake, after reading some other threads. My old phone is a Nokia 6682 that has given me grief from day one. I have been looking for a replacement and had not found one. My contract with Cingular was up in December and I have been hesitant to enter into a new one. Did I make a mistake? The Apple store I was at, said they were almost out of phones and all of the AT&T ones were out yesterday. The Apple store said they got a few this morning and I bought the last 8 gig.

Not if you look at the results of this poll (gratuitous self promotion) or this report from CNN.
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post #61 of 80
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I bought an iphone this morning....... Did I make a mistake?

I don't think so, since I happen to think it is greatest consumer product I have ever used. And, I have used a lot of them.

But if you're in doubt, you should probably return it, so that some deserving person with less doubt can enjoy it?

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But if you're in doubt, you should probably return it, so that some deserving person with less doubt can enjoy it?


post #63 of 80
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I'd say that roughly one or two in every ten walked out with two. So, your guess of 500 in the store that I was at may not be such a bad estimate. But I was not at a 'big city' store such as in Boston or NYC. I wouldn't be surprised if they had double that number.

So, if we say, an average of 600-700 per Apple store, we are talking about 110,000-125,000 in total? Add to that, perhaps, 25 handsets per ATT store times 1500 stores = 37,500. Thus, it is possible that Apple sold a total of ~150K - 160K handsets thru retail outlets on Day 1. Assuming equal parts 4GB and 8GB, that's $80 million - $90 million revenues.

And, no one mentioned any supply constraints for either model -- indeed, I had the sense that the employees were told that the party line was, "we have no idea how many we have left, it is just on a first come, fist served basis; we'll keep going until we run out."

Those numbers sound screwy.

I would think that ATT would get the same number of phones Apple's own stores would get, in total.

ATT has more than ten times as many stores in the US than Apple does, which is why each one might run out sooner, as the per store allocation would be less.

But, my local ATT store had almost 75 people lined up at 6:30 Friday night, from my quick, not entirely accurate, count, plus those who already bought from 6:00 P.M.

When I walked by again, about an hour later, there were still a couple of dozen outside.

That would indicate that those people were getting their phones. The store must have had at least 100.
post #64 of 80
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What kind of idiot parent lets their 8 or 12 year old get a $600 phone? Unbelievable. Some parents spoil their kids to the point of making them unbearable to deal with.

Do you have kids?
post #65 of 80
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Originally Posted by gimmegimmemomo View Post

For what it's worth . . . for those trying to estimate first weekend sales totals . . . I was told that every AT&T store received 60 iPhones (15 4gb and 45 8gb). I was led to believe that's the stock that EVERY one of their stores received, nationwide . . .

But the information came from someone at a northern California store . . . so it's reasonable to speculate that those stores were sent more than, say, an AT&T store in Iowa . . . and what was meant was that all the stores IN HIS AREA go the same stock of 60 phones.

Anyway . . . FYI

I live in Columbia, MO. when I visited one of the AT&T locations Friday evening they said that both stores in this town had 30 and were already sold out. I wait.
post #66 of 80
It's a shame that iPhone's Bluetooth implementation seems to be 'crippled' so as only to allow handsfree and none of the other cool stuff Bluetooth does on just about every other [non-Verizon] handset today - printing, stereo audio, file transfer &c.

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post #67 of 80
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

I would think that ATT would get the same number of phones Apple's own stores would get, in total.

Depsite the myriad of AT&T stores I believe that Jobs would arrange for the Apple Stores to get a greater number of units over all. By doing so Apple can draw the attention of non-Apple, non-technology, non-iPhone loving people to the vast number of people waiting outside their stores. Good and free PR. They can also garnish extra sales of iPods, Macs, software and accessories while the customers are in the store.

Or maybe Mac and iPod sales have been hurt by this launch. Anyone see anything non-iPhone related leave an Apple Store?
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post #68 of 80
If Apple did sell 500k then they will have grossed $300,000,000 this weekend alone. I know that not there is a 4GB model for $100 less but I balance that with the myriad of iPhone accessories sold alongside this device. I expect my stock to soar today. Plus, with of these customers being new to AT&T there may be a significant shift in their stock too.

"iDay has passed and with a weekend of frantic iPhone selling under the belt, has the iPhone managed to live up to the hype?

Whatever about the user experience, AT&T's network overload problems and generally decent reviews with reservations the sales figure predictions for Apples glossy combo are positive. According to analyst, Blackfriars, which has been monitoring stores, claimed that sales should top 500,000 for the first weekend. In its daily blog, it said:

The bottom line: some analysts claimed that the iPhone launch would be a failure if Apple failed to sell 100,000 iPhones during the first weekend. Based upon the limited data we have, we believe that number was exceeded in just the first two to three hours. Blackfriars' prediction is that Apple will sell 500,000 iPhones this weekend, and based upon limited sales rates reported, that number now looks quite achievable. The only question is whether the demand and iPhone supply is great enough that they might push past the million unit mark this weekend.

Things are really only going to get interesting though if sales remain strong for the rest of this year and into 2008.-Martin Lynch

(source) PS: Will their be a new iPhone feature released this week to fuel interest in the iPhone? I think there will.
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post #69 of 80
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PS: Will their be a new iPhone feature released this week to fuel interest in the iPhone? I think there will.

That's the beauty of the iPhone, features and apps can be added without hardware changes. The iPhone will update itself through iTunes, something every iPod user is used to doing. It's simplicity and it's beautiful.

I'm gagging to get my hands on one. When they do come to the UK, you'll see me at the front of the line!
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Or maybe Mac and iPod sales have been hurt by this launch. Anyone see anything non-iPhone related leave an Apple Store?

I saw iPod related stuff being bought. I also saw someone crazy enough to try and get Genius Bar laptop help on Friday evening. I overheard her say "My laptop broke today, what else can I do?" so at least she knew she was starting at the back of the line.
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PS: Will their be a new iPhone feature released this week to fuel interest in the iPhone? I think there will.

Yes and the AI article detailing all those forthcoming features has been removed.
post #72 of 80
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Those numbers sound screwy.

I would think that ATT would get the same number of phones Apple's own stores would get, in total.

ATT has more than ten times as many stores in the US than Apple does, which is why each one might run out sooner, as the per store allocation would be less.

But, my local ATT store had almost 75 people lined up at 6:30 Friday night, from my quick, not entirely accurate, count, plus those who already bought from 6:00 P.M.

When I walked by again, about an hour later, there were still a couple of dozen outside.

That would indicate that those people were getting their phones. The store must have had at least 100.

Maybe it is 100, or 75, or 25 -- I actually have no clue. I was simply using "25" from solipsism's original post.

(Sent from my iPhone -- Day 3 and I am still in love.)
post #73 of 80
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...I expect my stock to soar today...


I would be careful with that prediction. The market is going to have overall very light volume this week due to the July 4th holiday. Many traders are taking the whole week off. Price changes up or down in weeks like this historically are not true indicators of a stock's health. Finally, many institutional investors and traders have been waiting for today to automatically take profit in AAPL so its volume may be high in a light week. Bottom line, keep your eye on AAPL volume (average daily volume 36M) and don't over interpret price moves up or down.
post #74 of 80
I was one of the people who was on the fence between a real smartphone and the iPhone. I just finished using a friends iPhone, and boy the videos and pics don't do the phone any justice. I'm off the fence and it's iPhone all the way.
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Originally Posted by BlackSummerNight View Post

I was one of the people who was on the fence between a real smartphone and the iPhone. I just finished using a friends iPhone, and boy the videos and pics don't do the phone any justice. I'm off the fence and it's iPhone all the way.

Good decision.

Now, go spread the news to your friends. Let's get the epidemic buying started now if it hasn't already.
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Originally Posted by mrjoec123 View Post

Any information that you get from any retail employee of either Apple or ATT is either speculation or complete BS. I know several Apple store managers and not one of them has any clue about number of units sold or delivered to any store beyond their own. Apple keeps those numbers as "need to know" as any other information, and for good reason.

There is a legion of reporters out there just dying to find any numbers to justify a claim that iPhone was overhyped. I suspect all these guesses are not very close to the truth. Only Steve knows for sure, and he won't be talking for a while.

Calling around to ATT stores is a waste of time. They know nothing.

The next Steve Jobs broadcast is when that's when we'll find out they are selling MUCH better then even he expected.

"We were hoping to sell "X number" of units the first 30 days, but we ended up selling "XX Number of units" and we're on pace to sell "XXXXXX units by the end of the first year"! This is about 4 times what we expected the iPhone is a HIT!

I'm guessing it will sound something like the above, when we do hear from him.

Right now the stock price isn't going very good I don't know if it will go up much, until there are some numbers for folks to put their teeth into.

NOW, when will they be some news about "New" COMPUTERS from Apple?

Hell I'd be happy to hear something new and exciting in the iPod end of things.

So

- iPod
- iMac
- Monitors
- Macbook Pro
- G5 - Desktop units

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post #77 of 80
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This seems a little random. Who are you responding to? I can't find anyone else talking about system requirements in this thread or in the original article.

Two posts prior to the one you are referring to:

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This is perhaps an obvious one, but still one, nonetheless, that Apple should have reiterated for the average buyer: You not only have to have the latest version of iTunes installed (7.3?), but you must also be online. O/w, the purchase is a bust when you get it home (unless, of course, you took it right away to an ATT store to get it activated).
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All except two of the Apple retail stores are also sold out.

Looks like people on Ebay might have a chance to make some money after all....
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Originally Posted by meelash View Post

All except two of the Apple retail stores are also sold out.

Looks like people on Ebay might have a chance to make some money after all....

I have just finished looking thru completed listings of the iPhone on ebay. I would estimate based on my random sampling that >90% of sales are to scanners and frauds from Nigeria, Russia and elsewhere. This info is fairly easy to deduce from the completed listing info about the buyer. Many of the Sellers of iPhones on eBay aka "The House of Fraud" will lose their phones and never see a dime.
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Originally Posted by lfe2211 View Post

I have just finished looking thru completed listings of the iPhone on ebay. I would estimate based on my random sampling that >90% of sales are to scanners and frauds from Nigeria, Russia and elsewhere. This info is fairly easy to deduce from the completed listing info about the buyer. Many of the Sellers of iPhones on eBay aka "The House of Fraud" will lose their phones and never see a dime.

Have you ever used Ebay? What are you talking about?

How would you lose your phone and "never see a dime," when payment is received up front, usually through PayPal? It's much more difficult to commit fraud as a buyer on Ebay than as a seller.
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