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post #1 of 35
7/6/07 at 4:56am
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.
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post #2 of 35
7/6/07 at 5:35am
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

Both of these questions are highly subjective AND for the most part VERY VERY location sensitive... Me telling you how good the iPhone is in the mountains of NJ (yes we have them) would be of little value if your are in the middle of NYC in a hospital filled with electronics, monitoring devices, MRIs, CTs, over saturated 802.11, perhaps even cellular repeaters.. where I worked we had them all over the place for the Nextel phones, etc, etc, etc.

This is not unlike some random poster writing a post that says "Don't use cingular, their network sucks" and NOT having any location filled out nor telling anyone WHERE is his posting from.... How can anyone possibly take the poster seriously?

Okay not exactly the same but you get the point... In short without some additional details it will be impossible to answer your questions in any way that would actually help you.

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post #3 of 35
7/6/07 at 5:48am
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Both of these questions are highly subjective AND for the most part VERY VERY location sensitive... Me telling you how good the iPhone is in the mountains of NJ (yes we have them) would be of little value if your are in the middle of NYC in a hospital filled with electronics, monitoring devices, MRIs, CTs, over saturated 802.11, perhaps even cellular repeaters.. where I worked we had them all over the place for the Nextel phones, etc, etc, etc.

This is not unlike some random poster writing a post that says "Don't use cingular, their network sucks" and NOT having any location filled out nor telling anyone WHERE is his posting from.... How can anyone possibly take the poster seriously?

Okay not exactly the same but you get the point... In short without some additional details it will be impossible to answer your questions in any way that would actually help you.

Dave

Not really, he asked 2 very simple and specific questions:


1. What is the call quality like?

- Well? Is the call quality you get on your iPhone during use any good?

2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

- This is a simple Yes or No answer.

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I live in the UK, so don't have an iPhone yet, otherwise I would have answered your questions HockeyDoc.
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post #4 of 35
7/6/07 at 5:56am
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Both of these questions are highly subjective AND for the most part VERY VERY location sensitive... Me telling you how good the iPhone is in the mountains of NJ (yes we have them) would be of little value if your are in the middle of NYC in a hospital filled with electronics, monitoring devices, MRIs, CTs, over saturated 802.11, perhaps even cellular repeaters.. where I worked we had them all over the place for the Nextel phones, etc, etc, etc.

This is not unlike some random poster writing a post that says "Don't use cingular, their network sucks" and NOT having any location filled out nor telling anyone WHERE is his posting from.... How can anyone possibly take the poster seriously?

Okay not exactly the same but you get the point... In short without some additional details it will be impossible to answer your questions in any way that would actually help you.

Dave

To your question, my iPhone has better voice quality than my Razr on the same AT&T network. Yes, it gets a signal everywhere my Razr did.

I live on Long Island in NY. The iPhone also has far superior usability with all of its calling related features compared to the Razr,e.g, I could never go back to answering voice messages sequentiallly.
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post #5 of 35
7/6/07 at 7:23am
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Not really, he asked 2 very simple and specific questions:
1. What is the call quality like? - Well? Is the call quality you get on your iPhone during use any good?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did? - This is a simple Yes or No answer.

If the iPhone itself was 'notorious' for specific quality issues that were not affected by network quality - like notorious low volume or whatever... we'd see an enormous amount of people posting about this obvious problem... so if you think 'call quality isn't location specific thats fine... you can continue to live in fantasy land... for the rest of us... call quality is quite dependent on your specific area.


A simple example...

To my brother who lives on a mountain-side facing New York City...

Q: How is the HDTV picture quality on that Sharp Aquos?
A: Fantastic!

To my other brother who lives on a mountain-side NOT facing New York City...

Q: How is the HDTV picture quality on that Sharp Aquos?
A: It sucks I can't even get a picture most of the time!

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post #6 of 35
7/6/07 at 7:51am
The call quality on my iPhone is pretty average. It's not as good as a landline, but it's better than it was on my RAZR. The reception is also about on par with my RAZR.
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post #7 of 35
7/6/07 at 7:51am
If you guys have an iPhone, just answer his question. Subjective or not, I'd say he just wants an answer. If you are that insecure about Apple's phone, you could follow up by telling him what the reception was like on your old phone in the same location. Just follow JDraden's lead.

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post #8 of 35
7/6/07 at 7:56am
Sascha Segan of PC Mag thinks the phone quality is terrible. I strongly disagree with his analysis . I mention his opinion only because I respect his work. It just shows how subjective this type of analysis can be. Leo Laporte did a TWIT podcast devoted to the iPhone. One of his guests used the iPhone to call into the program. The voice quality was great. It was great when he used the headset and speaker phone as well. The TWIT is easy to find, so you will be able to judge for yourself. My experience, (watch for my review) is that the iPhone sound quality is the best I have heard in a phone. It replaces my LG Fusic from Sprint. I am in Beaverton, OR. It has an excellent mic so the person on the other end can hear you just fine. The speaker phone performance is particularly impressive to me. I do not know what led Sascha to his conclusion. But it does not correspond to the real-world examples I have heard and experienced. The iPhone is a great phone.
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post #9 of 35
7/6/07 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by HockeyDoc View Post

I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

Unless you get a discount for getting all 7 at once I'd just get one and test it out...IF you are getting a discount...heh...let me know and maybe I can convince someone around here its a good idea.

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post #10 of 35
7/6/07 at 11:26am
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

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You sound like a generous soul, but before you buy several iPhones, or even one, I would suggest that you check out the iPhone forums at MacRumors.com.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=322939

They've set up a discussion area for people to report problems they are having with the device, and they seem to be numerous. Some of the bugs will no doubt be fixed with software upgrades, but that may be as far away as October.

The issues range from repeated crashes, to the inability to record a greeting.

Like the the folks who post here, the people who go to MacRumors, tend to be tech savvy, early adopters, and Mac loyalists. None of the complaints sound like mere sour grapes, event though the forum runs to 4 pages.

It seems like Apple jumped the gun on the release of the iPhone. Personally, I'm going to wait until at least, for the second version.
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post #11 of 35
7/6/07 at 12:20pm
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The issues range from repeated crashes, to the inability to record a greeting.

Like the the folks who post here, the people who go to MacRumors, tend to be tech savvy, early adopters, and Mac loyalists. None of the complaints sound like mere sour grapes, event though the forum runs to 4 pages.

It seems like Apple jumped the gun on the release of the iPhone. Personally, I'm going to wait until at least, for the second version.

Seems mostly to be Safari issues and some iPod functions. Oddly my 5.5G Video iPod has some of the same issues with photos disappearing that requires a power cycle for them to return. Scary when these are your imported photos of your vacation off your camera and are your only copies...

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post #12 of 35
7/6/07 at 12:54pm
For me the call quality and availability is the same as my old RAZR. Actually a hair better when you consider I no longer have that intermittent buzzing sound that some RAZRs develop (which mine did).
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post #13 of 35
7/6/07 at 2:05pm
I used to use a >2 year old Motorola v551 on the AT&T/Cingular network.

Signal strength on my iPhone has been on par or slightly better than my old phone. I generally didn't have problems there and haven't had any with the iPhone. This is at home in Berkeley, in San Francisco, in between, and on my way to Santa Cruz and back where I went for the 4th of July.

Regarding call quality, I feel that the iPhone is far superior to my old phone. I think I can heard some audio compression going on which I couldn't previously hear on my old phone, but I think that is due to the iPhone being better so now I can hear those artifacts. I think this is due to AT&Ts network. That said, no complaints and overall its better than my old phone.
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post #14 of 35
7/6/07 at 2:35pm
I live in Louisiana. In my area Sprint and Altell have the best coverage, however I really wanted to buy my wife an iPhone for her B-Day. We had At&t before and left b/c it was so bad.

My wife loves the phone and talks about it all the time. She tells me all the time she can't believe it sounds this good on At&t/Cingular.

I even called my mother the other day and she said I sounded much better than on our previous phone.
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post #15 of 35
7/6/07 at 2:57pm
Hi...Work in busy trauma center ED.....reception excellent as any AT&T can be expected. Use the phone for contacting in house and external. Get better quality of the call than I did with the Blackberry Pearl... no interference with EKG tele....hope that helps




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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.
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post #16 of 35
7/6/07 at 3:07pm
Considering RAZR series is judged as the benchmark of RF signal strength (although audio quality honor is generally awarded to Nokia), I would say iPhone is in good company. On the other hand, many (including myself) found iPhone's speakerphone to be on the weak side. I normally use the Bluetooth headset myself, however.
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post #17 of 35
7/7/07 at 4:14pm
I had a razor and an 8125. i currently purchased an iphone and they blow both away. It is the best phone I have ever used. It gets good reception almost everywhere and even on low service the call quality still seems pretty good. definetley a good phone, worth checking out.
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post #18 of 35
7/7/07 at 4:25pm
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Considering RAZR series is judged as the benchmark of RF signal strength (although audio quality honor is generally awarded to Nokia), I would say iPhone is in good company. On the other hand, many (including myself) found iPhone's speakerphone to be on the weak side. I normally use the Bluetooth headset myself, however.

I use the speakerphone for all calls and audiobooks when using the Ipod function. It is much louder than my Razr for calls. I have to crank the volume down from max level for audiobooks as they can be heard in nearby rooms.
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post #19 of 35
7/7/07 at 5:07pm
But don't give it to them until you've activated it and used it in every one of the spots you'll need to use it. Then- it becomes a great new gift! Someone will think you're great!

(If it was acceptable, go out and get the 7 for yourself and your partners.)

You may as well- if you end up getting them for your partners first, you know you'll be in deep ^%$# !)
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post #20 of 35
7/7/07 at 5:37pm
in the latest TWiT podcast (#103) some dude talks about doing high end audio analysis and found that the iPhone's sound quality was top notch and surpassed all the other phones.
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post #21 of 35
7/7/07 at 6:06pm
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

Call quality on both ends - how they sound to me, how I sound to them - have been excellent.

It also gets a signal everywhere my old phone did.

If you already enjoy good reception, benefits outweigh the risk. Furthermore, since it is well known that anesthesiologists tend to be among the most laid back specialists in medicine, it is likely that unforeseen problems would be well-tolerated.
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post #22 of 35
7/7/07 at 6:15pm
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1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

You didn't ask about its battery life, which is extremely important for a mobile phone. My iPhone's battery life is much better than my RAZR's. As for the questions that you asked, I bought my iPhone while in an area where my phone strength is consistently 5 bars and away from home where it may be less. That said, the signal reception seems better. Voice quality is on a par with my landline--if not better.
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post #23 of 35
7/7/07 at 7:24pm
have you used BT ?? iphone doesn't have voice dialing....so how can you operate it handsfree in a medical or car environment??? to me that's a mandatory feature, but how do you get around it?
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post #24 of 35
7/7/07 at 8:15pm
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You sound like a generous soul, but before you buy several iPhones, or even one, I would suggest that you check out the iPhone forums at MacRumors.com.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=322939

They've set up a discussion area for people to report problems they are having with the device, and they seem to be numerous. Some of the bugs will no doubt be fixed with software upgrades, but that may be as far away as October.

The issues range from repeated crashes, to the inability to record a greeting.

Like the the folks who post here, the people who go to MacRumors, tend to be tech savvy, early adopters, and Mac loyalists. None of the complaints sound like mere sour grapes, event though the forum runs to 4 pages.

It seems like Apple jumped the gun on the release of the iPhone. Personally, I'm going to wait until at least, for the second version.

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Madame Defarge why don't you save your second hand advice for when you get an iPhone, and have some weight behind your opinion.

I don't know what planet your iPhone problems are on but all the people I know including myself have had not a single problem with it, and the ones in here that have had a problem have had that problem easily fixed by Apple already. Either they give you a new phone, or a new sim card. How deeply does that run?
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post #25 of 35
7/7/07 at 8:26pm
The iPhone quality in my area (phx, AZ) is by far the best reception I've ever had.
As I went into detail in another thread that for over 15 years I have never been able to get reception in a particular mountain pass near my home, but I now can drive through and talk with ease on my iPhone. It's mazing. I didn't think it possible.
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post #26 of 35
7/9/07 at 1:50pm
I switched from a Verizon XV6700 to AT&T with the iPhone. Previous to the XV6700, I had also used a Samsung i730, Treo 700w, and Motorola Q. I would have to say the phone features on the iPhone are superior to all of the phones I've listed with one notable exception. The lack of voice-dial capability is really a pain in the @$$. I am very hopeful that they address this oversight in the first update.

The call quality is better both on the sending and receiving end. It sounds great as long as you are in an area where you have decent service. As far as service goes, it's kind of a wash. I get similar quality of service in 90% of the places I go. I also get service in areas where I never could get a signal with Verizon and no signal in some areas where I had a great signal with Verizon. It seems to me like I've traded dead-zones, but there doesn't seem to be any more or less coverage than with Verizon, just different coverage areas. The speakerphone on the iPhone isn't GREAT, but it's on par with the phones I listed above.

Anyway, I hope this helps.

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post #27 of 35
7/9/07 at 1:57pm
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You sound like a generous soul, but before you buy several iPhones, or even one, I would suggest that you check out the iPhone forums at MacRumors.com.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=322939

They've set up a discussion area for people to report problems they are having with the device, and they seem to be numerous. Some of the bugs will no doubt be fixed with software upgrades, but that may be as far away as October.

The issues range from repeated crashes, to the inability to record a greeting.

Like the the folks who post here, the people who go to MacRumors, tend to be tech savvy, early adopters, and Mac loyalists. None of the complaints sound like mere sour grapes, event though the forum runs to 4 pages.

It seems like Apple jumped the gun on the release of the iPhone. Personally, I'm going to wait until at least, for the second version.

In my brief encounter at the Apple Store with an iPhone, it seemed laggy and really needed to be completely upright to sense which direction was being viewed. I'd rather have the option to choose portrait or landscape manually if I wanted to... but, on the other hand, the screen was extremely bright and the interface appeared genuinely 3D in it's appearance, that was neat.

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post #28 of 35
7/9/07 at 6:35pm
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Thanks to all who have replied. All responses, good and bad are appreciated.

It seems to me that most people find the reception and voice quality at least on par with their old phones and that's good enough for me.

I have purchased one 8gb iPhone and given it to my most discriminating (picky) partner. She will evaluate it for up to 2 weeks at which point if it does not work for our specific needs we will return it and get 90% of our money back. I highly doubt this will happen but I need to present the group with this option before we drop $4200 plus tax and up our monthly phone bill by $140.

Feel free to give me more feed back and I'll keep you updated to how we make out.

Thanks.
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post #29 of 35
7/9/07 at 7:34pm
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

OK HockeyDoc.

I am an anesthesiologist too. I was using a SLVR phone until I got my iPhone. It works in all the areas the SLVR did. We have two rooms that are signal dead and no phone works in them but everywhere else in the hospital the iPhone works well. I am on OB call tonight and just used my iPhone to take a pic of a new dad and his daughter in the C-Section room and email it to him. The poor schmuck had forgotten his camera and his wife was ready to kill him. The ease of use with the calender functions will make trading calls and documenting them easy. If you plan on doing a lot of web surfing with your iPhones make sure you buy chargers for all the rooms. WiFi web surfing burns thru the battery pretty quickly. I just turn my wifi off and get all day use as a phone only.

good luck

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post #30 of 35
7/10/07 at 7:21am
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

I'd suggest buying one, just one. Play with it as you would test out any new piece of equipment.

I don't believe there are any bulk order benefits so you have nothing to lose... but your own time. Good luck.
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7/10/07 at 1:00pm
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

The coverage area is better than the T-mobile service that I switched from and as good or better than Verizon that my company phone is on.

The call quality is a s good or better thand both the razor on T-mobile and way better than the Treo 700P and 700W that I use on verizon.

I use these phones in and out side of Philadelphia.
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7/10/07 at 1:13pm
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

I am switching from Sprint after a year and Nextel for 5 years prior to that.

1. The call quality is great. I would say its not as clear as Sprint/Nextel but on average holds a more consistant signal.

2. Yes and seems to reach even more areas where Sprint would be weak.
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post #33 of 35
7/10/07 at 1:17pm
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The coverage area is better than the T-mobile service that I switched from and as good or better than Verizon that my company phone is on.

The call quality is a s good or better thand both the razor on T-mobile and way better than the Treo 700P and 700W that I use on verizon.

I use these phones in and out side of Philadelphia.

jtus,

Do you use Wirelessphiladelphia (the free city wide WiFi) much? If so, how is it?

Thanks.
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7/10/07 at 10:11pm
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I am strongly considering buying 7 iPhones for my Anesthesiology group. We are salivating at the prospect of using all its features but we have a question. Is the iPhone a good phone? We currently all have RAZRs and we get reception in all of our locations and all of our operating rooms. So.

1. What is the call quality like?
2. Does it get a signal everywhere your old phone did?

I thank all of you who answer me.

The RAZR was/is a god-awful excuse for a phone. Seeing as how the iPhone is Apple's baby, they'd have to try pretty hard if they wanted to come up with something worse than Motorola's electronic door stopper. Given that you appear to want to use it mainly for basic communications, why not just get a cheaper (and probably more durable) phone? I've had a Nokia 6620 for several years now, it's a great phone and didn't cost $500. The camera and voice quality are way better than the RAZR's, it won't break into a million pieces if you drop it (unlike the RAZR), and I've never had any trouble with signal strength/receiving calls. I've owned 1 other Nokia phone, and in my experience they are great products that last a long time (contrast that with the Motorola T720 I had, which had to be replaced twice in less than 2 years, and was incapable of getting a signal even outside some buildings).

Money might not be a factor for you, however, since you're an anesthesiologist. In that case, get the iPhone and go for the upgrades. With solid gold iPhone faceplates, I'm sure you'll be the envy of your coworkers.
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7/11/07 at 5:22am
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jtus,

Do you use Wirelessphiladelphia (the free city wide WiFi) much? If so, how is it?

Thanks.

I don't live in Philadelphia just have to go there at times .
I have not tried the free wireless yet.
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