Originally Posted by Judgegavel
Well by the media yes,
Nope. By the people as well. And its entirely fair to do so, its a huge issue. Not that his record outside of the war is much better.
The media has not made me believe so either, though they always do make a reliable scapegoat for any politician in times of trouble.
And I have a pretty good filter against both left- and right-wing media.
Thats not to say he's doing a good job in any way shape or form, because he's not. It's just saying that to point out he's the worst president since HH simply because he's done a horrible job with the War is simply stupid, and just wrong.
Its not just the war, though, he's screwed up many other things, as has been listed elsewhere. Katrina, anyone? Universal health care (or lack thereof)? Immigration? Civil liberties? The environment and global warming? Deficits? Energy policy? Over-politicization and cronyism in, well, everything? Blanket incompetence? Destruction of American soft power, reputation, and influence worldwide? Kowtowing to the religious right on most everything?
The list of suckage just goes on and on and on with these guys... it's tragic.
That being said the economy is fairly strong, unemployment is not bad. I don't see any gas lines, we are not in a depression, or even a recession.
As Republicans were so fond of pointing out during the Clinton years, the President can only take a small amount of credit for the economy, at best. Additionally, growth is slumping, and we have big problems in the housing sector as well as the trade deficit (especially with China).
Education has improved.
You mean the No Funds Left Behind Act? Yeah, laying down mandates without providing much in the way of money to achieve them isn't that helpful. Every teacher I know simply rolls their eyes at this.
Taxes have gone down.
Sure, with the lion's share going to the rich. And the deficit has exploded as a result. Look to see the Bush tax cuts either not being renewed by Congress, or being heavily modified and tilted more towards the middle class (as they should've been to begin with).
And as bad as Iraq is its nowhere near a Vietnam ( appx. 3,600 US Armed Forces casualties vs. 58,000 US Armed Forces casualties, to be specific).
The numbers are different, but the effect is the same. The US has been 'Vietnamized' once again, and will be significantly more hesitant to go to war in the future, even when it may be very necessary. Privately, military commanders acknowledge this to be a disaster.
And the families of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who've died may differ with you on the human toll of the current war.
When all is said and done, down the road after the Iraq mess blows over GW will wind up having done a better job than Ford, Carter, and even his father for that matter. Despite what the media or popular current opinion will have you believe.
Nope. Dubya's approval ratings are plumbing depths not seen since the 'Nixon during Watergate' era. We're talking subterranean here.
But its always nice to pretend that history will vindicate one's record, isn't it? I'm sure that's what Dubya and all his top cronies are telling themselves, over and over. Must be a mantra behind closed White House doors by now, I'd think.
I will give you stupidest president though.
On that one thing, we can agree.
Aside from Hillary we will
And yet, she may well win. Though I prefer others.
If she does, she can thank Dubya for having set the bar so low. She'll look good in comparison, almost no matter what she does.