Originally Posted by steve666
Is there any way we can get a Poll together to send to Apple requesting that matte screens be an option on all their products? Its coming to the point where Apple isn't offering me anything I want to buy.
There may be some relationship between matte screens and Apples move to 'green' production. Plus I have some feedback on the new Macbooks.
First, a typical way to etch a matte finish into glass is with strong toxic chemicals or a plastic film overlay. Both solutions would make Mac production facilities and computers more toxic. I'd rather work with the lights dim to kill reflections than the other options.
Because of efforts to reduce use of toxic materials, Apple is probably going to stick with metal cases and non etched screens (just my guess). Or until some magic, green and highly repeatable glass treatment is found. Maybe laser or plasma etching is possible. Don't know.
Even the anti-reflective coating put on high end eyeglasses ($1000 + for lenses) involves toxins during production and wear.
I've had a Late 2008 2.0 Macbook for a week now. Watched about 50 minutes of a DVD, done a few charge cycles, let it burn-in outdoors for a few days.
It is a beautiful machine and the engineering and quality are remarkable. The out of box smell is much lower than the Late 2007 Macbook Pro.
The very unique headache it generates, even while it is 12 feet away and warm, is identical to the headache obtained from having the Macbook Pro in this air space. This is basically the only time I get headaches. To cure the headache I need to unplug the Apple gear, seal it in a big ziploc, open windows and doors to ventilate the apartment and wait about 4 hours.
Let me repeat. I have a beautiful new Macbook here that runs X-Plane better than my main PC and I'm not willing to use it. I'll perhaps try multiple week-long burn in sessions with it safely in a garage or something.
I took off the bottom access panels to do a bit of investigation. My sense of smell is very poor in most cases. I need to get into the center of a bakery before the smell registers but there are a few scents / chemicals that I detect at remarkably low levels.
A few things stink on the new Macbook. I wish Apple would hire professional 'sniff testers' to review each component batch, modeled on what Volvo does with car production. Bad chemical smells often indicate toxic chemicals are being released and frankly the smells hurt the quality perception. It is much cheaper to use trained noses than to do a technical gas analysis.
Strangely the glowing Apple Logo on the lid smells when it gets warm. I'm guessing it is acrylic and it is a common Mac smell.
Under the battery cover is a dimpled rubbery pad about 3 inches long that has a strong odor. Taped over this and the Apple logo with aluminum tape and the machine odor improved as a result.
Removing screws from the big cover released a strong chemical odor when the three screws near the hinge broke free. These screws seem to thread into the plastic vent grill that runs along the hinge. I'm unable to tell if the odor comes from the plastic, from a possible thread lock compound (tips of screws are black but so is the plastic) or if just cracking the case open released the odor.
The components under the cover are tightly packed and nothing stands out as particularly interesting when the machine is cold. To do this right the machine needs to be completely torn down and folks with useful noses could check out every component individually. I've found some trouble spots but not the smoking gun.
All available surfaces have been wiped down with alcohol wipes in the hope of removing production oils, etc. Didn't help much.
The AC wall charger, when warm, likely contributes to the problem.
I'll give this unit a chance with some serious burn-in time but am not really expecting much.