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post #121 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:01am
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Li'l bird has been away
But the sky anounces change
Darker, comes the bird this way
Faster, dives the bird, I say.
"No more pale skin and single feet"
awww...the lil bird...ain't he sweet ?

Oh, no, not again!

OK, so the new iMac will be not plain white and will be not a display on a stand. But what?
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post #122 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by Clive At Five View Post

Aside from being a truncated Mac Pro tinted red with a screenshot of Leopard taped to the side of the unit, the design is terrible. Most prominently is the unadjustable screen angle.

Let see what else is wrong with this picture:
  • Razor-sharp upper corners
  • keyboard not on the same 3D plane as computer
  • Not shipping with Leopard installed
  • No iSight
  • No matching keyboard
  • Butt-ugly

So no. There's no chance in hell that this is the next iMac.

-Clive

Except that it will ship without Leopard installed.
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post #123 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:06am
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not necessarily... it could be as hard as the plastic on the monitors apple had in the past, or the plastic on the cube. hard as rock

It doesn't matter how "hard" the plastic is. All plastic has a great deal of flex, much more than any structural metal. It's also far too thin. It wouldn't be strong enough.


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i understand that, but the design looks like the studio displays nonetheless


Very little.

But look at the three feet. That is polycarbonate. Yet, each foot is structurally sound, unlike that in the mock-up.
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post #124 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:10am
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Oh, no, not again!

OK, so the new iMac will be not plain white and will be not a display on a stand. But what?

I think the ideal iMac would basically be something that can be both desktop and (semi-)laptop, in a sense. Remember that Apple patent a while back for something that can charge a battery merely via contact between two metal plates? What if there were a mount for the monitor so you could take it off of the stand, along with a USB-charged wireless keyboard? Wouldn't be a true portable in any sense, but if it were a tablet (touchscreen is almost certainly not gonna happen at this point though) it could be neat, I guess. I think an iMac like that is a long way off, though - and I'd rather see more stuff like HDMI in/out than a tablet/touchscreen design.
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post #125 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

It doesn't matter how "hard" the plastic is. All plastic has a great deal of flex, much more than any structural metal. It's also far too thin. It wouldn't be strong enough.

I always fantasised about that mockup to being made out of glass composite, not plastic.
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post #126 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:21am
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Hi ! Welcome ! Prepare to be plea-amazed !
Just because your first post was right on target...

The Apple event is all about Mac... iMac or whatever Apple will call this next thing.

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Li'l bird has been away
But the sky anounces change
Darker, comes the bird this way
Faster, dives the bird, I say.
"No more pale skin and single feet"
awww...the lil bird...ain't he sweet ?

OMG, can't you control yourself???

Based on "Li'l Bird's" track record: there will be nothing announced on Tuesday.

4 and 20 li'l birds baked in a pie
I'm bloody sick and tired of your obtuse rhymes
say what you're gonna say or just go away
and stop wasting everyone's time.
Mmmk?

"Too much of a good thing is great." Mae West
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"Too much of a good thing is great." Mae West
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post #127 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:22am
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Originally Posted by SpinDrift View Post

I always fantasised about that mockup to being made out of glass composite, not plastic.

The only glass composite is fiberglass, and there is no transparent fiberglass. Even fiberglass is too flexible to be made so thin.
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post #128 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:24am
sorry... by plastic i meant polycarbonate or whatever it's called... that seems to be pretty sturdy no?

and of course it wouldn't be exactly like that mockup, but something along those lines.. i wouldn't want it to be completely transparent i don't think, but that design is pretty neat...
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post #129 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:25am
Personally I think Li'l Bird it a retard, but that's just me.

I'd love to see Apple announce a few products at this thing, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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post #130 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:26am
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sorry... by plastic i meant polycarbonate or whatever it's called... that seems to be pretty sturdy no?

and of course it wouldn't be exactly like that mockup, but something along those lines.. i wouldn't want it to be completely transparent i don't think, but that design is pretty neat...

Polycarbonate is very strong, and it isn't easily breakable, unlike acrylic, but, to achieve that, it is VERY flexible. Much more so than acrylic, which is itself flexible.
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post #131 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:30am
then i guess there's no way out. we're stuck with metal
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post #132 of 565
8/1/07 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Ideally, as all information on ergonomics, as well as the manuals for monitors show, the top of the screen should be at eye height.

People tend to put them too high because of the old days when most computers were flat on the table with the monitor on top. Somehow, they think that monitors should be high up.

But, I'm not sure Apple will go back to a monitor that can be adjusted anywhere as much as the old lampshade iMac.

It is all in the eyes of the beholder. http://www.office-ergo.com/setting.htm

I personally adjust the tilt so that "a line drawn from (my) eyes to the center of the screen, (is) perpendicular to the screen,"* no matter how high the monitor sits.

*http://www.yorku.ca/dohs/ergonomics/neck.htm#5
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post #133 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:00am
Geez...if they really want to do a transparent foot they could always resort to transparent aluminum at $15/sq inch.

Okay I kid...its really a transparent ceramic Aluminium oxynitrate. But I believe the shear modulus is superior to Aluminium. Not hard to believe of a ceramic.

It would be worth quite a bit of bragging rights though...my PC is made of transparent aluminium...that said...a tranaparent monitor is kinda silly except as a HUD.

Oddly I don't need a HUD on my desk as I would only see...wall.

Vinea
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post #134 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Clive At Five View Post

Aside from being a truncated Mac Pro tinted red with a screenshot of Leopard taped to the side of the unit, the design is terrible. Most prominently is the unadjustable screen angle.

Let see what else is wrong with this picture:
  • Razor-sharp upper corners
  • keyboard not on the same 3D plane as computer
  • Not shipping with Leopard installed
  • No iSight
  • No matching keyboard
  • Butt-ugly

So no. There's no chance in hell that this is the next iMac.-Clive

Not to say that it is, however from the picture, how can anybody be so certain that it has…
  • Razor-sharp upper corners
  • Is not on the same 3d plane: the keyboard could have been placed in front and stood perpendicular on the desktop in front of the screen. However, I do think the screen is much too small in relation to the keyboard if the screen is supposed to be 20" or larger
  • Is not shipping with Leopard: depends on the shipping dates of both
  • No iSight: seems that the pic shows otherwise
  • No matching keyboard: Why not? This is not a packaging photo.
  • Is butt-ugly. Remember, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think my sister-in-law's husband is a ugly as a chewed boot. Unfortunately, she isn't into fine leathers.
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post #135 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:12am
iMac - Obviously the 20" and 24" will get the redesign, the 17" will be discontinued or will be for educational use only.

headless Mac - I know this dead horse has been beaten into the ground many times, but I think we will see it now because (1) the 17" iMac is not getting a redesign, (2) the Mac mini has not been updated in 329 days (discontinued?), and most importantly, (3) gaming is making a major comeback on the Mac and gamers like to update components. I expect this new Mac to sport desktop components that are easily replaced by the user.

ultra-portable
1 - Think 12" PowerBook with the screen height shortened to widescreen specs
2 - no optical drive
3 - full size DVI
3 - dedicated graphics
4 - ExpressCard
5 - no FireWire 800
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post #136 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:17am
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2 - no optical drive

That will be the first complaint, and 1st in a line of reasons why people wont buy it.
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post #137 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:28am
I sort of like this one.





It they made the back computer black and then base out of metal it would be pretty nice. Also the stand should have some slant to it and the screen should bend more. If only it was multi-touch
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post #138 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:30am
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then i guess there's no way out. we're stuck with metal

No. It just has to engineered so that plastic would work. A laymans idea of what looks nice isn't always the same as what an engineer would come up with..
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post #139 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

It is all in the eyes of the beholder. http://www.office-ergo.com/setting.htm

I personally adjust the tilt so that "a line drawn from (my) eyes to the center of the screen, (is) perpendicular to the screen,"* no matter how high the monitor sits.

*http://www.yorku.ca/dohs/ergonomics/neck.htm#5

While I have nothing against a lower monitor setting (you'll notice that I spoke against monitors that are set too high), they are often difficult to arrange on a desk.

I was really plastered when I mentioned it in an earlier thread.
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post #140 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:33am
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Geez...if they really want to do a transparent foot they could always resort to transparent aluminum at $15/sq inch.

Okay I kid...its really a transparent ceramic Aluminium oxynitrate. But I believe the shear modulus is superior to Aluminium. Not hard to believe of a ceramic.

It would be worth quite a bit of bragging rights though...my PC is made of transparent aluminium...that said...a tranaparent monitor is kinda silly except as a HUD.

Oddly I don't need a HUD on my desk as I would only see...wall.

Vinea

That's pretty good material, but I don't think that even Apple would go for the expense.
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post #141 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:35am
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I sort of like this one.





It they made the back computer black and then base out of metal it would be pretty nice. Also the stand should have some slant to it and the screen should bend more. If only it was multi-touch

It would need a bit more case around the edge.
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post #142 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:37am
http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/...&sec=00&p0=224

mini countdown, some can make widget for this mini count down? i have not learn yet (how to make widget)

this is the IMPORTANT mac event for 2007 (atleast in terms of hardware)

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Sep '12| Toshiba 14" 1366 x 768! | i5 3rd Gen 6GB| Intel x25-m 120GB SSD | Win 7|  Viewsonic VX2255wmb 22" LCD
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Nov '09 | iMac 21.5" C2D 3.06 Ghz | Intel 330 240GB SSD | ATI

Sep '12| Toshiba 14" 1366 x 768! | i5 3rd Gen 6GB| Intel x25-m 120GB SSD | Win 7|  Viewsonic VX2255wmb 22" LCD
iPhone 4S| iPad 2 wifi

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post #143 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:39am
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I sort of like this one.

OH MY GOD YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT?
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post #144 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by mrpiddly View Post

I sort of like this one.

It they made the back computer black and then base out of metal it would be pretty nice. Also the stand should have some slant to it and the screen should bend more. If only it was multi-touch

dude, not to understate your efforts, thats not so good!

not to reinvent the well designed working model

Alu LCD + iMac internal = new iMac

only thing can be done with existing Alu LCD height adjustment, other than that it ROCKS!

Nov '09 | iMac 21.5" C2D 3.06 Ghz | Intel 330 240GB SSD | ATI

Sep '12| Toshiba 14" 1366 x 768! | i5 3rd Gen 6GB| Intel x25-m 120GB SSD | Win 7|  Viewsonic VX2255wmb 22" LCD
iPhone 4S| iPad 2 wifi

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Nov '09 | iMac 21.5" C2D 3.06 Ghz | Intel 330 240GB SSD | ATI

Sep '12| Toshiba 14" 1366 x 768! | i5 3rd Gen 6GB| Intel x25-m 120GB SSD | Win 7|  Viewsonic VX2255wmb 22" LCD
iPhone 4S| iPad 2 wifi

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post #145 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:43am
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you have less than 800 posts and it says registered user on your tagline

That's why I asked how he got his tagline CHANGED. In case you haven't noticed, the default is Registered User, somehow he customized his while only having 86 posts...
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post #146 of 565
8/1/07 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Except that it will ship without Leopard installed.

It's feasible that it might ship with Leopard, assuming either the iMac ships late or Leopard ship early.

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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

Not to say that it is, however from the picture, how can anybody be so certain that it has
  • Razor-sharp upper corners

I'm looking and I see perfect 90-degree angles...

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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

  • Is not on the same 3d plane: the keyboard could have been placed in front and stood perpendicular on the desktop in front of the screen.

Then its shadow is messed up... nor is it reflecting off the surface like the Mac Pro above it. Speaking of that reflection, the Mac Pro's is white, while the unit is red.

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  • Is not shipping with Leopard: depends on the shipping dates of both

See above.

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  • No iSight: seems that the pic shows otherwise

There's a tiny mark where the iSight should be, but it in no way resembles the current iSight. The only way a camera with a lens that size would work is if it was 0.3 MP.

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  • No matching keyboard: Why not? This is not a packaging photo.

If you weren't worried about the continuity of this photo, you wouldn't have justified the keyboard orientation. Since you did, let's assume this is a packaging photo. The keyboard still does not match.

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  • Is butt-ugly. Remember, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think my sister-in-law's husband is a ugly as a chewed boot. Unfortunately, she isn't into fine leathers.

If your sister-in-law's husband resembles a chewed boot, that iMac resembles


-Clive
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post #147 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:03pm
Was that picture ever purported to be an actual picture? I thought it was just supposed to be a mock-up that someone did. And if so, why are people going to the trouble of debunking it?
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post #148 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:07pm
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Was that picture ever purported to be an actual picture? I thought it was just supposed to be a mock-up that someone did. And if so, why are people going to the trouble of debunking it?

If no one had any inside infor about what the unit would look like, why would he/she go through the trouble of making a crappy mock-up?

That "iMac" is begging to be slammed.

-Clive
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post #149 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by Clive At Five View Post

If your sister-in-law's husband resembles a chewed boot, that iMac resembles


-Clive

Is this thing real?
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post #150 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by Clive At Five View Post

It's feasible that it might ship with Leopard, assuming either the iMac ships late or Leopard ship early.

That's true.

But this new iMac is being introduced August 7th.

Leopard is being released sometime in October, likely late October, if Apple goes by "tradition".

That's way too much time for them to be convolved together.

I can't see why Apple would announce October, and then release in August. I also can't see Apple announcing early August, and then waiting until September.
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post #151 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:20pm
I realize that many of you Mac nutjobs feel that Apple can do no wrong, but the iPhone was released way too early, and it shows. It crashed my Vista machine due to a KNOWN problem with syncing photos, the Safari browser crashes constantly, and the email application is a useless piece of garbage. I've been debating whether to buy the new iMac immediately, or wait until the new O/S arrives. After my experience with the iPhone, I'm thinking I'll wait, but not until the new O/S comes out; I'm going to wait 6 months until the bugs are truly worked out of the O/S. Apple bit a little too much off to get all this done at once, and it shows. You little wankers, wearing your 7 for all mankind jeans and mock turtlenecks, dialing away on your iphones and waiting for the new brushed aluminum iMacs need to GET A LIFE. Apple is just like Microsoft, just with better marketing.
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post #152 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by PB View Post

Is this thing real?

It's a hairless Chinese Crested. =)
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post #153 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by bayaryaan View Post

You little wankers, wearing your 7 for all mankind jeans and mock turtlenecks, dialing away on your iphones and waiting for the new brushed aluminum iMacs need to GET A LIFE. Apple is just like Microsoft, just with better marketing.

Welcome?
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post #154 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

The only glass composite is fiberglass, and there is no transparent fiberglass. Even fiberglass is too flexible to be made so thin.

Umm not true at all. Fibreglass is a glass composite, but not the only one and a rudimentary one at that. Glass composites have come a long way since fibreglass, in fact, fibreglass has come a long way over the years. Glass is often mixed with ceramics, silicone, borosilicate, carbon, aramid and other materials to create very strong substances. Glass fibre reinforced plastics are also very advanced and cost effective to produce.
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post #155 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:42pm
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nutjobs Vista garbage wankers Microsoft



PMT?
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post #156 of 565
8/1/07 at 12:47pm
>the same venue used for the introduction of the Intel-based Mac mini and iPod Hi-Fi last February.
>Once again, seating is said to be extremely limited.

I.e. way to small event to introduce a new iMac, an iPhone Mini, or a phone add on for iPods

Don't expect too much, Steve will probably just show off an updated Mac, a new iLife or iWork revision, or an iPhone gadget.

Big things will come - but not yet.

Prediction:
APPL drops to <$130 (buy!) after the tuesday event (because of overreacting analysts) - but reaching a new all time high mid-september, an Apple-split in february followed by the stocks breaking the $100 (sell!) barrier spring 08.
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post #157 of 565
8/1/07 at 1:22pm
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>the same venue used for the introduction of the Intel-based Mac mini and iPod Hi-Fi last February.
>Once again, seating is said to be extremely limited.

I.e. way to small event to introduce a new iMac, an iPhone Mini, or a phone add on for iPods

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but Apple introducted the iPod at Apple Town Hall.

And what? You expect them to rent out a convension center to update an iMac? Not gonna happen.

-Clive
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post #158 of 565
8/1/07 at 1:26pm
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Umm not true at all. Fibreglass is a glass composite, but not the only one and a rudimentary one at that. Glass composites have come a long way since fibreglass, in fact, fibreglass has come a long way over the years. Glass is often mixed with ceramics, silicone, borosilicate, carbon, aramid and other materials to create very strong substances. Glass fibre reinforced plastics are also very advanced and cost effective to produce.

There are no transparent glass composites.

But, fiberglass normally refers to just a couple of composites. That with glass fibers and epoxy, and that with glass fibers and polyester. Anything else is much more expensive.

Translucent, yes. Strong, yes. Nothing within the cost frame of an iMac is translucent, strong, and rigid enough to duplicate the illustration, which is, after all, what we were talking about.
Other designs that are more structurally sound could use transparent material. Nothing prevents that. I could design a strong foot myself, but what would be the point?

Apple will do what they want to.
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post #159 of 565
8/1/07 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by Clive At Five View Post

If no one had any inside infor about what the unit would look like, why would he/she go through the trouble of making a crappy mock-up?

Because they're bored and felt like it and it's kind of a tradition for Mac-related rumors?

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That "iMac" is begging to be slammed.

Yes, but not argued to be fake when it wasn't ever purported to be real.
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8/1/07 at 1:37pm
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

Not to say that it is, however from the picture, how can anybody be so certain that it has
  • Razor-sharp upper corners
  • Is not on the same 3d plane: the keyboard could have been placed in front and stood perpendicular on the desktop in front of the screen. However, I do think the screen is much too small in relation to the keyboard if the screen is supposed to be 20" or larger
  • Is not shipping with Leopard: depends on the shipping dates of both
  • No iSight: seems that the pic shows otherwise
  • No matching keyboard: Why not? This is not a packaging photo.
  • Is butt-ugly. Remember, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think my sister-in-law's husband is a ugly as a chewed boot. Unfortunately, she isn't into fine leathers.

I think that the above is irrelevant. Fact is, the picture is just plain ugly. Not a hope that the iMac is going to look like that.
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