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OMG, can't you control yourself???

Based on "Li'l Bird's" track record: there will be nothing announced on Tuesday.

4 and 20 li'l birds baked in a pie
I'm bloody sick and tired of your obtuse rhymes
say what you're gonna say or just go away
and stop wasting everyone's time.
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post #162 of 557
They're going to announce the discontinuation of the Mac Mini.

However the recently leaked photos of the thin keyboard are not for the iMac but for a new Mac Pro Cube, basically a Mac Pro but without the expandability and inside a small six-inch cube, powerful enough for gaming and just in time for back-to-school, with a $699 pricetag.
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They're going to announce the discontinuation of the Mac Mini.

However the recently leaked photos of the thin keyboard are not for the iMac but for a new Mac Pro Cube, basically a Mac Pro but without the expandability and inside a small six-inch cube, powerful enough for gaming and just in time for back-to-school, with a $699 pricetag.

Wishful thinking.

A GPU 'powerful enough for gaming' wouldn't even fit in a six inch cube.
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Make it an 8 inch cube and I'll believe you.
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What if the whole mac is in the keyboard? Take it with you plug in anywhere.

Just my two cents but I thinks the key is in the keyboard.
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I think that the above is irrelevant. Fact is, the picture is just plain ugly. Not a hope that the iMac is going to look like that.

The point was to show that how one couldn't make such judgements as Clive At Five did based on, yes, a "truly ugly picture," no matter how unreal it may be. Nothing more.
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What if the whole mac is in the keyboard? Take it with you plug in anywhere.

Just my two cents but I thinks the key is in the keyboard.

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They're going to announce the discontinuation of the Mac Mini.

However the recently leaked photos of the thin keyboard are not for the iMac but for a new Mac Pro Cube, basically a Mac Pro but without the expandability and inside a small six-inch cube, powerful enough for gaming and just in time for back-to-school, with a $699 pricetag.

$699? are you missing the 1 before?

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10 to 15 years YES!, not now!

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I'm amazed no one has jumped on the "It's a new iMac and a Tablet!" bandwagon yet. We've got most of the other bandwagons covered, so far, it seems.
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I'm amazed no one has jumped on the "It's a new iMac and a Tablet!" bandwagon yet.

Are there still people that expect Apple to bring out a tablet some time soon? Oh dear

A Mac tablet, the ModBook, has been available since January and I haven't heard anything about it setting the world on fire.
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not if new imac buyers are granted a discount on the leopard upgrade!

Or it is free.
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Are there still people that expect Apple to bring out a tablet some time soon? Oh dear

A Mac tablet, the ModBook, has been available since January and I haven't heard anything about it setting the world on fire.

That's because the ModBook is a slate, they are useless, and Apple announced the iPhone within a short timeframe of it, but If it were a slim convertible tablet I would have one.
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What if the whole mac is in the keyboard? Take it with you plug in anywhere.

Just my two cents but I thinks the key is in the keyboard.

That was my old Atari ST's. You did need an external floppy, HD, and CD though. There is no way these would fit into a keyboard, unless a 1.8" HD is used, and they are too slow.

The machine could be a bit smaller today, but not by much.

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What if the whole mac is in the keyboard? Take it with you plug in anywhere.

Just my two cents but I thinks the key is in the keyboard.

My Commodore 64 just gasped.

I really hope Apple announces an update for the mini. I think it's essential to have an affordable entry level machine for potential switchers.

I don't see a Pro Cube coming, but I'd love it. Five years ago, I was bummed when Macs went from four empty PCI slots down to three. I had my Mac maxed out and was considering buying an expansion chassis. Today, I'm not using a single PCI slot. Everything is going USB and firewire (ok, I WISH everything was going firewire!, but that's another rant) I'm not saying that nobody needs PCI slots anymore, but fewer and fewer of us seem to.

In time, I see the Pro tower becoming a specialty item, similar to the xserve. The iMac is a great machine... but I don't need a new monitor, so why should I buy one?
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My Commodore 64 just gasped.

I really hope Apple announces an update for the mini. I think it's essential to have an affordable entry level machine for potential switchers.

I don't see a Pro Cube coming, but I'd love it. Five years ago, I was bummed when Macs went from four empty PCI slots down to three. I had my Mac maxed out and was considering buying an expansion chassis. Today, I'm not using a single PCI slot. Everything is going USB and firewire (ok, I WISH everything was going firewire!, but that's another rant) I'm not saying that nobody needs PCI slots anymore, but fewer and fewer of us seem to.

In time, I see the Pro tower becoming a specialty item, similar to the xserve. The iMac is a great machine... but I don't need a new monitor, so why should I buy one?

you need pci-e slots for video cards and raid cards.
Also sounds cards are still pci based now days.
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you need pci-e slots for video cards and raid cards.
Also sounds cards are still pci based now days.

There are loads of PCI TV tuner cards as well.
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This event is for new iMacs, so let's not get ahead of ourselves and even think we'll be getting anything else. If we do then great, but keep a leash on those hopes.

If that's true then the journalists are gonna groan just as much if not more than they did at the Hi-Fi event. I really hope apple learned their lesson and doens't invite a bunch of people to come and stand around one product unless it's iPhone level revolutionary.

No matter how nice or strong the new imac is, wthout something crazy like a replacable GPU(maybe not even then), the imac just isn't enough to warrant a press event all to itself.


Count me in for a new Mac Cube with replacable GPU. I will buy one if it happens, but it will never happen. Count me in for the apple home server thing someone else mentioned. I will buy one if it happens, but it will never happen.
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post #179 of 557
Mac Mini with an independent GPU...
Mac Mini with an independent GPU...
Mac Mini with an independent GPU...
Mac Mini with an independent GPU...

*Crosses fingers*

I know, very unlikely, but I'd buy one in a heartbeat with an X1300 or X1600...
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post #180 of 557
Apple had the 3 GHz Quad Xeon Clovertown 4 months before PCs. They got special treatment, maybe as payment for moving everything to Intel chips. So now picture this: On Aug. 7th Apple could announce that the top of the line Mac Pro will now carry the new 3.16 Harpertown Xeons, 4 months before expected release. Now THat I would buy. (Ok, so actually I'd get the 2.9 version because the very top would probably be crazy expensive, and the slower Harpertown would still be faster than the current 3.0 Clovertowns.)
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Seconded.

How many of us really know anything? I found the riddles accurate in some aspects, and even when they weren't it was pretty entertaining trying to figure them out. Surely you can see some redeeming quality in a ill-founded rumor if its entertaining.

Sometimes it's the path, not the destination.

We're all here to have fun right?
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If that's true then the journalists are gonna groan just as much if not more than they did at the Hi-Fi event. I really hope apple learned their lesson and doens't invite a bunch of people to come and stand around one product unless it's iPhone level revolutionary.

No matter how nice or strong the new imac is, wthout something crazy like a replacable GPU(maybe not even then), the imac just isn't enough to warrant a press event all to itself.

Heh. I think your intuition is way off here. You seriously believe that Apple will not hold a launch event ever again until they have another iPhone-like new-segment product on their hands?

And... a replaceable GPU would probably be the LEAST impressive thing they could show. Least impressive to the general press and their readership, anyway.

A super-slim, super-sexy new iMac with an unexpected feature or two - I won't even try to guess, that's why they're unexpected! - is going to get them a nice bit of coverage and some hot sales. Add a demo of iLife and iWork, and another, smaller announcement, and that's a nice little event.

This board is teeming with people who are extremely excited about a new iMac. It's not unreasonable to expect that it will surprise (and delight) us all when we actually see it. Let's not get into a mind frame where Apple must announce a 13", 8 oz tablet Mac for $199 or else not bother making a keynote out of it.
post #184 of 557
Whatever they announce on Tuesday will be big and push up the price ,,,,here we go again ,,,,,yes.
post #185 of 557
Crap I'm going to be in Florida. Well I guess I'm going to be bringing my iBook.

This is going to be a great week. "Hot Rod" Friday, Florida, The Mac Event and "SuperBad" Next Friday.
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post #186 of 557
My thoughts:

Whatever it is will probably not involve a laptop update during education iPod promotion. Since MB and MBP sales are strong during the mid-June to mid-September timeframe, there's little incentive to update them pre-Paris. However, the release of a new laptop (whether it's a 15.4 inch Macbook or a small MBP) could be in the cards.

Although everyone is bashing the Mac Mini, I really don't think that Apple is prepared to be without a single sub-$1000 computer. While Apple is obviously a pricey brand, I don't see them abandoning the $600 - $900 market completely. I don't think anyone expects Apple to act in the $300- $600 market with the mega-crap Dells with Vista Basic, but the $600 - $900 market is not one Apple can ignore.

What I really want to see is some use of Intel's desktop processors. The best values on the market right now are dual and quad core desktop C2D chips. You can get a 2.4 GHz quad core chip for $266. That probably won't happen unless Apple intros a single-socket Mac Pro.

EDIT - Checked the Apple Store again. The low-end iMac is $999. My point stands anyways.
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Whatever happens, Apple must raise its desktop sales.
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Whatever happens, Apple must raise its desktop sales.

Not necessarily. Apple's laptop sales growth is more than making up for slower desktop sales, and the desktop -> laptop transition is happening across the industry. If Apple's desktop sales only grow at the industry average, Apple won't suffer.

Fundamentally, I think that Apple's desktop sales will suffer as long as they don't use desktop chips. The Q6600 and the Q6700 as well as the Q4 Barcelona/Phenom launch will mean that by Jan of 2008, every desktop over about $1000 will be a quad-core or a high-speed (>=2.8 GHz) dual-core. If Apple's still using laptop chips in the Mac Mini and the iMac, then they'll be selling $1200 - $1600 computers with 2.4-2.6 GHz dual-core processors that'll simply get crushed by the competition.
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Not necessarily. Apple's laptop sales growth is more than making up for slower desktop sales, and the desktop -> laptop transition is happening across the industry. If Apple's desktop sales only grow at the industry average, Apple won't suffer.

Fundamentally, I think that Apple's desktop sales will suffer as long as they don't use desktop chips. The Q6600 and the Q6700 as well as the Q4 Barcelona/Phenom launch will mean that by Jan of 2008, every desktop over about $1000 will be a quad-core or a high-speed (>=2.8 GHz) dual-core. If Apple's still using laptop chips in the Mac Mini and the iMac, then they'll be selling $1200 - $1600 computers with 2.4-2.6 GHz dual-core processors that'll simply get crushed by the competition.

Apple can't become a laptop company. To be taken seriously, they must have both.

If sales of desktops doesn't rise, the costs for the R&D, as well as the production costs, will prevent them from having a reasonable price structure.

When you consider just how many lines, and models, Apple has that amount to the low level of sales they comprise, you will see that none of them sells very well.
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If that's true then the journalists are gonna groan just as much if not more than they did at the Hi-Fi event. I really hope apple learned their lesson and doens't invite a bunch of people to come and stand around one product unless it's iPhone level revolutionary.

No matter how nice or strong the new imac is, wthout something crazy like a replacable GPU(maybe not even then), the imac just isn't enough to warrant a press event all to itself.


Count me in for a new Mac Cube with replacable GPU. I will buy one if it happens, but it will never happen. Count me in for the apple home server thing someone else mentioned. I will buy one if it happens, but it will never happen.

ecking your way off. Apple has had two products that have changed the way the world looks at something in their entire history:

• 1 The Macintosh,
• 2 The iPod.

The iPhone has yet to qualify.

If Apple waited for another industry changing idea before holding an event we would never see shit.
Apple holds these product events now because it became clockwork with their product cycles, and people started holding off on buying until MacWorld, NAAB, and WWDC. Now when a product is ready they announce it; it's that simple. If the press wants to cover an Apple product they will, if they don't, they don't have to come but the invitation is there.
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Whatever happens, Apple must raise its desktop sales.

If they would produce a (Pro) Mac Pro that was on par with the PC side it would help their image, and consumer perception exponentially. Until they offer equality on a Mac it will always be perceived as the little engine that couldn't to most PC users and potential workstation switchers.
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Apple can't become a laptop company. To be taken seriously, they must have both.

If sales of desktops doesn't rise, the costs for the R&D, as well as the production costs, will prevent them from having a reasonable price structure.

When you consider just how many lines, and models, Apple has that amount to the low level of sales they comprise, you will see that none of them sells very well.

All computer companies are going to become laptop companies. Many users that would have bought desktops in 2004 are buying laptops now. I'm not saying that the desktop is dead, but rather that the ratio of laptops to desktops is rising industry-wide, and Apple is no exception.
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OH MY GOD YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT?

Mostly the screen part, they may have to cut off the large tumor on the back.
I would buy the screen by itself, if it were a good resolution that is. Maybe a good Uhdv screen.
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dude, not to understate your efforts, thats not so good!

not to reinvent the well designed working model

Alu LCD + iMac internal = new iMac

only thing can be done with existing Alu LCD height adjustment, other than that it ROCKS!

Did you think i made it? Its just a google search. I liked some things about it. Why would i make somthing the i dont like half of including the fact you cant tilt the screen downwards or for that matter even have it eye level, the base is too square (more triangular would be nice, bad blending/center of gravity for the computer part, and many other items not listed. From the front, base not included, it looks pretty good (now where to put that computer)



Here is the real next gen imac :

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They're going to announce the discontinuation of the Mac Mini.

However the recently leaked photos of the thin keyboard are not for the iMac but for a new Mac Pro Cube, basically a Mac Pro but without the expandability and inside a small six-inch cube, powerful enough for gaming and just in time for back-to-school, with a $699 pricetag.

I saw this at the Macwold forums

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The new iMac will definitely appease those who have been clamoring for a headless iMac. The new iMac is going to replace the Mac mini as well, which will be EOL'd. The new iMac still won't be easily user upgradeable (aside from RAM), but at least it will let you use your own display if you choose. But Apple is going to offer a really neat way to integrate the iMac with a new Cinema Display design that will make you want to buy Apple's display. But at least you'll have a choice now.

There will be no multi-touch on the new iMac. And desktop variants of the Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quads will be used instead of the mobile versions used in the MacBooks.

The new iMac and Cinema Display will be sold separately and bundled together with a slight discount. Expect the cheapest bundle to start around $1200 (iMac + 20" Cinema Display).

And there may be a "one more thing..." on Tuesday.

Corroboration? Coincidation? Price points are similar.
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Did you think i made it? Its just a google search. I liked some things about it. Why would i make somthing the i dont like half of including the fact you cant tilt the screen downwards or for that matter even have it eye level, the base is too square (more triangular would be nice, bad blending/center of gravity for the computer part, and many other items not listed. From the front, base not included, it looks pretty good (now where to put that computer)



Here is the real next gen imac :

ok, i thought you created the mock up.

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All computer companies are going to become laptop companies. Many users that would have bought desktops in 2004 are buying laptops now. I'm not saying that the desktop is dead, but rather that the ratio of laptops to desktops is rising industry-wide, and Apple is no exception.

With everyone I know It's because of economics not need or want. The fact that people can not afford what they could in the 80's & 90's is affecting their decisions. I don't know anyone that would buy a second laptop because all they do is bitch about it. Which leads me to believe there will be a strong resurgence of desktop sales once again.
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It isn't a teeny keyboard, it's a huge monitor.

Besides the plastic foot would be unstable, all plastic bends, so it would cause the computer to shake back and forth every time you touched it to put in a DVd, etc.



No. Pb and Clive are right. It is a Mac Pro with the top cut off, in a hideous red.

It would also be rather distracting having a transparent design like that, it is lovely to look at tho.

Anything behind it would be visible, books on book shelves, moths fluttering by, flies landing in the way.
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If they would produce a (Pro) Mac Pro that was on par with the PC side it would help their image, and consumer perception exponentially. Until they offer equality on a Mac it will always be perceived as the little engine that couldn't to most PC users and potential workstation switchers.

I'm not quite sure what that means. A Pro Mac Pro?

The Mac Pro is at least equal with anything comparable pricewise in the PC world. Those comparisons have already been made.
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All computer companies are going to become laptop companies. Many users that would have bought desktops in 2004 are buying laptops now. I'm not saying that the desktop is dead, but rather that the ratio of laptops to desktops is rising industry-wide, and Apple is no exception.

No, they aren't. There are vast numbers of desktop machines in every educational facility, business office, and governmental office as well. They arte not going to be replaced with laptops

At some point, which might be closer than you think, the percentage of swing towards laptops will slow, then stop.

The reason why Apple has a greater ratio of laptop to desktop sales than most other companies isn't because there is just a swing to laptops, but also because Apple's desktop lines aren't as desirable.

It's easy to say, as Jobs did a year or two back, that it's the year of the portable, if your desktops simply aren't selling.
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