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hello everyone
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we are a small time seller of apple ipods frm india . from what we hear say , it seems apple is getting ready for a new range of ipods - ideally by Sept 2007

iPod Shuffle will stay the same just high capacity -2GB

iPod Nano will stay the same but slightly larger screen 2.2" or 2.5" , slightly different width but same brushed aluminum body . Slightly bigger is size to accomodate bigger battery

Biggest Suprise Nano will playback Video
(just as in iphone , it seems "nand" is now fast enought to handle video playback, further apple can leverage their video properties to all its models)

iPod Video 6G - Higher Capacity and better battery life , more nand memory so HDD use is minimal .... ( might be 3" screen but i doubt it , rather to reduce costs apple might come up with a very bright 2.5" screen with LED backlight on all the iPods NANO or VIDEO)

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APPLE IPOD RANGE FOR 2008 - guessing

iPod Shuffle 2GB -pricing almost similar to 1GB - US$79

iPod nano 2GB - discontinued

iPod nano 4GB - US$ 149

iPod nano 8GB - US$ 199

iPod nano 16GB - US$ 249

iPod Video 40GB - US $ 249

iPod Video 120GB - US $ 349

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It might well be that iPod discontinues the "NANO" RANGE ... calling all their range from 4GB to 120GB as the 6G ipod . entry level using NAND and Higher Capacity STILL using HDD

What Say

Kartik Mehta
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Hello and welcome

All sounds feasible to me.

However, wouldn't the video displays be OLED instead (i.e. no backlight?)
post #3 of 83
iPod 6G is touch screen or we start breaking legs - agreed?
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Geez, I think all these iPod speculation threads need to be merged.

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iPod 6G is touch screen or we start breaking legs - agreed?

agreed!
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post #6 of 83
Let the new nano have the 2.5" display from the old 5G iPod or use OLED. Keep the aluminum look and let it be as thin as a nano. How about a shuffle that isn't a shuffle because it has a small screen?

Use a 3.5" touchscreen on the 6G iPod "or we start breaking legs." 50/100GB; $299/$399.

Sept/Oct timeframe.
post #7 of 83
Hi everyone, I'm new as well. Long time reader and hoping to be a Macbook/ipod owner. Anyways, the predictions sound pretty solid, I just think that the 6G will be touchscreen and I'm defiantly hoping for touchscreen and some video playback on the Nano since that's what I'm planning on getting.
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i'm still wondering whether to replace my broken 5g hard drive or wait for new models....
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Let the new nano have the 2.5" display from the old 5G iPod or use OLED. Keep the aluminum look and let it be as thin as a nano. How about a shuffle that isn't a shuffle because it has a small screen?

Use a 3.5" touchscreen on the 6G iPod "or we start breaking legs." 50/100GB; $299/$399.

Sept/Oct timeframe.

After a lot of thinking , I doubt they will come with a 3.5" touch screen , it will harm the iphone business more .... also of late i have seen apple being more conservative with their upgrade models... i mean from ipod mini to ipod nano 2gb gen they have not done anything radical in terms of design or usability .

Once they have made a great design - touch wheel , they might not change it . Also in business terms , what will happen to so many ipods in the stock with apple resellers and retailers

Kartik
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i'm still wondering whether to replace my broken 5g hard drive or wait for new models....

Wait. Only a matter of a few weeks or a couple of months until an update, most people think.
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apple might come up with a very bright 2.5" screen with LED backlight on all the iPods NANO or VIDEO

All iPods with screens already use L.E.D. backlighting. (verified in Steve's "a greener apple" open letter published a couple of months ago)
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Let the new nano have the 2.5" display from the old 5G iPod or use OLED. Keep the aluminum look and let it be as thin as a nano. How about a shuffle that isn't a shuffle because it has a small screen?

Use a 3.5" touchscreen on the 6G iPod "or we start breaking legs." 50/100GB; $299/$399.

Sept/Oct timeframe.

A 2.5 screen would kill the Nano. The whole point of the Nano is for it to be narrow, compact and small to be carried in the pocket. Giving it a big 2.5 screen would destroy it's purpose.
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After a lot of thinking , I doubt they will come with a 3.5" touch screen , it will harm the iphone business more .... also of late i have seen apple being more conservative with their upgrade models... i mean from ipod mini to ipod nano 2gb gen they have not done anything radical in terms of design or usability .

Once they have made a great design - touch wheel , they might not change it . Also in business terms , what will happen to so many ipods in the stock with apple resellers and retailers

Kartik

Considering the iPhone and the iPod are both made be apple (who would have thunk) I don't think that Apple will hold back on screen size on an iPod just so iPhone sales thrive. The iPhone isn't making money just because of a 3.5" screen so what you're saying isn't very accurate. Also, I believe there are not radical upgrades because the iPod is such a hit, the upgrades are subtle and accommodate consumer needs but are not risky to ruin the product. I think the new iPod will be touch screen with the same scroll wheel idea (somehow) and possibly have a refined iPod interface instead of switching to the iPhones version of OS X. Nevertheless it is pretty assured that this update will be a big one - not just a HD size increase.

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A 2.5 screen would kill the Nano. The whole point of the Nano is for it to be narrow, compact and small to be carried in the pocket. Giving it a big 2.5 screen would destroy it's purpose.

agreed.
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My guess (wishful thinking...) for how the iPod line will look this holiday season, based upon a mish-mash of the rumors I have seen float by.


iPod Shuffle

Fundamentally unchanged. Maybe a slight increase in storage or reduction in price.


iPod Nano

Similar form-factor to today's nano, possibly slightly lower price or more capacity, but the signature changes are:
1) Flashy new user-interface (that is shared with the regular iPod).
2) Ability to utilize all of the media that was previously restricted to the iPod video (videos, games, etc.). Touted as all the power and features of the iPod video, now available at nano prices. Although the viewing experience on a device this small might leave something to be desired, it would do in a pinch, and would significantly expand the potential market for iTunes video-related content and games.


iPod

The 6G version of the standard iPod. Still hard drive based with click wheel. The main mission here is to spank the dickens out of the HD-based Zune and undercut whatever they might come up with for version 2.

1) Significantly flashier new user-interface (shared with the Nano). Say what you want about the Zune, on the surface at least, its UI makes the iPod's look kind of out-dated.
2) Same size screen as current version, but iPod reduced in overall physical size. Apple thrives on making things smaller and bragging about it.
3) They'll accept a thin margin on this to keep prices as low as possible and difficult for others to compete with. When Apple talked about thinner margins this quarter due to product transitions, I think this was a key component.
4) No WiFi or other significant bells and whistles borrowed from the iPhone. This is for those who want a high-capacity music player at a knock-out price. Video will still play but be de-emphasized; video is now a focus of iPod #4 below.


iPod Touch

iPhone without the phone. New top line of iPods. High capacity and hard drive based. Includes WiFi, camera, etc., just no Edge or phone. This is an important cog in Apple's grand scheme to quickly grow Safari marketshare. Shared platform with iPhone, including upcoming software additions, widgets, features, etc. that come to iPhone. Expensive with generous margin built-in. iPods have been introduced as high as $599, and I could see this selling in that range. I don't buy the arguments that this would need to be priced below the iPhone, nor do I believe that it would "cannibalize" the iPhone. The phone contract is a HUGE differentiator; that is a clear separator in the potential audiences for these devices. (I'll take two of these, please.)


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My guess (wishful thinking...) for how the iPod line will look this holiday season, based upon a mish-mash of the rumors I have seen float by.

Hello Ben. Welcome to AI Excellent first post!

I've always liked the idea of the Touch Screen iPod (iPhone minus the phone) being an extra tier at the top of the iPod line-up rather than a replacement for the current HDD iPod. I think the line-up you suggest would be perfect.
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post #16 of 83
I still think that the nano will remain music-only and not have video availabilities, I think that the regular iPod is for people who want more than just music playback, a lot of people just want a compact music player. For a Nano to have solid video playback it needs a larger screen causing it to lose it's value as a small device.
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i can't see them going for 2.5" drives on the new imac. it would involve actually LOWERING the available disc space. this is never going to wax with consumers
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iPod Shuffle

Fundamentally unchanged. Maybe a slight increase in storage or reduction in price.

Agreed

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iPod Nano

Similar form-factor to today's nano, possibly slightly lower price or more capacity, but the signature changes are:
1) Flashy new user-interface (that is shared with the regular iPod).
2) Ability to utilize all of the media that was previously restricted to the iPod video (videos, games, etc.). Touted as all the power and features of the iPod video, now available at nano prices. Although the viewing experience on a device this small might leave something to be desired, it would do in a pinch, and would significantly expand the potential market for iTunes video-related content and games.

I can't see the Nano changing this much. More likely improved storage and battery capacity.



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iPod

The 6G version of the standard iPod. Still hard drive based with click wheel. The main mission here is to spank the dickens out of the HD-based Zune and undercut whatever they might come up with for version 2.

1) Significantly flashier new user-interface (shared with the Nano). Say what you want about the Zune, on the surface at least, its UI makes the iPod's look kind of out-dated.
2) Same size screen as current version, but iPod reduced in overall physical size. Apple thrives on making things smaller and bragging about it.
3) They'll accept a thin margin on this to keep prices as low as possible and difficult for others to compete with. When Apple talked about thinner margins this quarter due to product transitions, I think this was a key component.
4) No WiFi or other significant bells and whistles borrowed from the iPhone. This is for those who want a high-capacity music player at a knock-out price. Video will still play but be de-emphasized; video is now a focus of iPod #4 below.

Possibly new UI - something close to Front Row I'd imagine. Possibly smaller, better storage and battery capacity. Possibly WiFi but more likely bluetooth.

Hopefully widescreen touch interface instead of clickwheel.

In other words, somewhere in between your suggestions for 6G iPod and iPod touch.



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iPod Touch

iPhone without the phone. New top line of iPods. High capacity and hard drive based. Includes WiFi, camera, etc., just no Edge or phone. This is an important cog in Apple's grand scheme to quickly grow Safari marketshare. Shared platform with iPhone, including upcoming software additions, widgets, features, etc. that come to iPhone. Expensive with generous margin built-in. iPods have been introduced as high as $599, and I could see this selling in that range. I don't buy the arguments that this would need to be priced below the iPhone, nor do I believe that it would "cannibalize" the iPhone. The phone contract is a HUGE differentiator; that is a clear separator in the potential audiences for these devices. (I'll take two of these, please.)


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reading the above threads , i can just say its not possible for the nano to have a small display and still have video playback .

they can make the 2.5" screen in portrait mode , so for movie playback you might need to turn the nano sideways.

touch screen still seems highly unlikely .... cause it will become a all together new interface ... also add to the cost .

rather i think apple will use its market position and bargaining power to squeeze NAND makers to give best possible prices , thus making all competitors MP3 Players look expensive.

many of whom i spoke too say , they would love to see a VIDEO iPOD with much less scratches .... and maybe that might be it ... some new materials to make the ipod look slightly different , little more cool ....
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its not possible for the nano to have a small display and still have video playback.

Not quite. It's possible, but it is somewhat (IMHO) pointless. There are competitors out there with smaller screens that also play video.
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touch screen still seems highly unlikely .... cause it will become a all together new interface ... also add to the cost .

this is VERY unrealistic, rethink what you just said. the iPod has gone through several major changes, both physical and through it's interface, cost isn't an issue as long as it's reasonable. if the iPod will go to widescreen video playback (should) wouldn't the interface have to go through somewhat of a dramatic change already? it can still stay the same recognizable iPod UI but be touchscreen.
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iPod Touch

iPhone without the phone. New top line of iPods. High capacity and hard drive based. Includes WiFi, camera, etc., just no Edge or phone. This is an important cog in Apple's grand scheme to quickly grow Safari marketshare. Shared platform with iPhone, including upcoming software additions, widgets, features, etc. that come to iPhone. Expensive with generous margin built-in. iPods have been introduced as high as $599, and I could see this selling in that range. I don't buy the arguments that this would need to be priced below the iPhone, nor do I believe that it would "cannibalize" the iPhone. The phone contract is a HUGE differentiator; that is a clear separator in the potential audiences for these devices. (I'll take two of these, please.)

Ben

I don't see a need for a product like this. Apple are very strategic about their iPod line and every device has a distinct purpose and I don't see where an iPod touch would fit in

*Wifi is something we won't see in an iPod in near future. The iPhone has WiFi but you can't use it for anything other than surfing over Wifi. An iPod with that feature would heavily affect the iPhone since there are WiFi network in many places around big cities.

*The Camera would also affect the iPhone and I can't see how a camera will add to the experience since it has got nothing to do with music/film. The feature would just make the device bigger and more expensive.

* The hard drive thing is also an issue since HDDs will be phased out by spring of 2009. The price of SSDs are decreasing, the iPod Nano will this year get it's capacity bumped up to 16GB. Next year it will be bumped up to 32, the iPod G6 will in the near future be equipped with SSD or same NAND chips as the Nano, and before you know it size with only be the difference between the Nano and bigger iPod. Further more the bigger iPod will itself get a touch screen since that is clearly the direction the industry is pointing at. Simply put the bigger iPod will inevitably becoming an iPod touch within a year or so.
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Apple won't put cameras on iPods because many businesses do not allow cameras in their workplace.
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*Wifi is something we won't see in an iPod in near future. The iPhone has WiFi but you can't use it for anything other than surfing over Wifi. An iPod with that feature would heavily affect the iPhone since there are WiFi network in many places around big cities.

WiFi could be put to excellent use - wireless synching, using the iPod as a remote control for AppleTV or Airport Express or your Mac, that sort of thing.

The idea that a WiFi enabled device is a threat to a mobile phone is laughable.


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I can't see how a camera will add to the experience since it has got nothing to do with music/film. The feature would just make the device bigger and more expensive.

Agreed. A camera in an iPod is utterly pointless.


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* The hard drive thing is also an issue since HDDs will be phased out by spring of 2009.

Nonsense. HDDs will probably always be cheaper than solid-state memory, per GB. The current capacity of the HDD iPod is 80 GB, it'll be several years before that amount of solid-state memory is cost-effective. By which time, there'll be 320 GB 1.8" HDDs enabling people to carry around their entire music library in Apple Lossless format instead of AAC, or carry their entire music and video collections on one device.
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That looks nice, but... if the Nano stays the same height, the click wheel will be way too low on the body. It's already pretty low so it's not that easy to use with one hand. If it were all the way at the bottom edge, it would be impossible to hold and scroll with one hand.

A bigger screen might make up for that, though. I'm ok with a lot of problems stemming from iPhone's lack of physical buttons since that gorgeous screen makes up for it all.
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That looks nice, but... if the Nano stays the same height, the click wheel will be way too low on the body. It's already pretty low so it's not that easy to use with one hand. If it were all the way at the bottom edge, it would be impossible to hold and scroll with one hand.

A bigger screen might make up for that, though. I'm ok with a lot of problems stemming from iPhone's lack of physical buttons since that gorgeous screen makes up for it all.

What click wheel? This is a 3G touch-screen iPod nano. The image on the right is proportionate to the one on the left, and it's the image of the full product, i.e. it doesn't have a click wheel.
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Not quite. It's possible, but it is somewhat (IMHO) pointless. There are competitors out there with smaller screens that also play video.

The sentiment here seems to be that running video on the current size nano screen would suck and I tend to agree with this. Of all the things I suggested in my run-down above, I think this is probably the weakest item. I included it, though, as one of the running rumors. And it would widen the audience for iTunes video content, which strategically makes sense for Apple.

I was thinking that in the slight chance that a touch-screen interface comes to the iPod this season, it would start out as sort of a high-end exclusive. Then I saw the Nano mock-up posted by Ireland. Not sure if that is realistic from a cost/manufacturing standpoint, but it is a pretty compelling design for the Nano if within the realm of possibility.

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Apple won't put cameras on iPods because many businesses do not allow cameras in their workplace.

This is like the argument that "Apple won't put cameras in their Mac Books Pros because many businesses do not allow cameras in their workplace." Or in the Mac Book. Or the iMac. Or the iPhone. Every single portable that Apple sells has a built-in camera, every phone, their main desktop offering, etc. - Apple may not include a camera on the iPod, but it doesn't look like this concern will be the thing that stops them.

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Agreed. A camera in an iPod is utterly pointless.

Any more pointless than sticking one on an iPhone? Or on any mobile phone for that matter? The point is to have a camera that is always handy and built into whatever device you happen to already be carrying around with you all the time, so you can capture those unexpected moments.

Plus, the iPod is already a photo viewer, so it has an established connection to photography. It could also sync your snaps back to iPhoto. If you've played with an iPhone, you've seen the great, widescreen, photo-viewing environment they've developed. It's a blast. Why be limited (as you currently are) to photos from your iPhoto library that you took in the past? Why not have the immediate experience of photos on the go? Plus, Apple already has the software and engineering developed in the iPhone. Who knows if it will happen, but I personally think there are plenty of compelling reasons for including one.

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Nonsense. HDDs will probably always be cheaper than solid-state memory, per GB. The current capacity of the HDD iPod is 80 GB, it'll be several years before that amount of solid-state memory is cost-effective. By which time, there'll be 320 GB 1.8" HDDs enabling people to carry around their entire music library in Apple Lossless format instead of AAC, or carry their entire music and video collections on one device.

I predict that people will be predicting the near end of spinning disk drives for at least 10 more years. It won't happen until scientists run into a brick wall and cannot further increase data density. They still have a lot of breathing room with perpendicular recording and who knows what they will come up with next.
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What click wheel? This is a 3G touch-screen iPod nano. The image on the right is proportionate to the one on the left, and it's the image of the full product, i.e. it doesn't have a click wheel.

Oh... Heh.

So, no home button, or any equivalent? If I want to pause, skip, or change the volume, I have to go through menus? Riiight...
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Oh... Heh.

So, no home button, or any equivalent? If I want to pause, skip, or change the volume, I have to go through menus? Riiight...

I knew it was coming. Yes, no "home" button because there's no phone, no internet, and no widgets. And if you want to pause, skip and such you use the new built-in in-line remote - easy.
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post #33 of 83
Given Apple's past actions I would say that the next gen Nanos will use the next gen Flash from Samsung with double the density. Meaning that all models get twice the capacity with the exception of the Shuffle.

In 2006 the followed mass production of the new 1Gb Samsung flash with the new nano. This year Samsung started mass production of the new 2Gb flash based on the 60nm process.
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Nonsense. HDDs will probably always be cheaper than solid-state memory, per GB. The current capacity of the HDD iPod is 80 GB, it'll be several years before that amount of solid-state memory is cost-effective. By which time, there'll be 320 GB 1.8" HDDs enabling people to carry around their entire music library in Apple Lossless format instead of AAC, or carry their entire music and video collections on one device.

1.8inch HDDs will be phased out. Just look at the 0.85inch drives which were used in the iPod mini in other DAPs a few years ago, they are totally obsolete now thank to NAND memory. The consumption of NAND chips is increasing with rocket speed and so is the price. Within 18 months there will be 32GB and 64GB DAPs flooding on the market.

Yes HDDs will always be cheaper per GB but SSD has lower power consumption and faster read time. Further more they are much more reliable, since they won't die on you for no reason. Imagine an 320GB iPod experiencing an HDD failure ending up in you loosing all your content. Just look at the millions of people who have had to send in their or throw their iPods in the trash can because the HDD in their iPod has died on them. I've experienced that twice and it's not fun at all.

Quality over quantity. I prefer a 32GB SSD ipod rather than an 80GB HDD iPod which can die on me at any time. SSD is the future. Apple has an exclusive deal with Apple and within two years they will have switched over to SSD kicking HDDs out the door.
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Hopefully it will be a little more widescreen but this the best design Apple could do for the Nano 3G. I think it may have a little more casing on top and bottom so that the fingers holding it don't obsure the screen.

I agree that you don't need the clutter of a Home button on such a simple device.

Can't wait; I will be buying one. ;-)
post #36 of 83
Shuffle
Virtually unchanged. 2GB version available in black.

Nano
2" touch screen with video playback and video output via the headphone jack and dock. Priced at
$150(4GB), $200(8GB) and $300(16GB). Aluminum with colors just like current line-up.

Video
3.5" touch screen with wifi, similar size and design as iphone but without the nice satin aluminum finish, silver frame or telephone capabilities, one solid color. One model priced at $399 for 80-120GB hard drive or possibly just 32GB flash.

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For anyone who thinks adding wifi to the video ipod is a bad idea, just look at the Zune. All Microsoft has to do is get smart enough to update the firmware to allow some convoluted way to get to internet explorer on the thing and suddenly it becomes a lot more sellable.I doubt Apple is going to release a next gen ipod video without wifi.Even though the Zune hasn't done much with it, Apple still has to watch their backs.

The only thing I'm not sure about is if Apple wants to get rid of the click wheel altogether, if they do that means all ipod games need to find a new way to be played. unless they become strictly a 5G feature with 6G games to come.
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Hopefully it will be a little more widescreen but this the best design Apple could do for the Nano 3G. I think it may have a little more casing on top and bottom so that the fingers holding it don't obsure the screen.

I agree that you don't need the clutter of a Home button on such a simple device.

I totally agree with the things you mentioned here, and I noticed them too last night, but I had to go. I have now adjusted the mock-up accordingly.

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post #38 of 83
I've got to say that I agree heartily with ApplePi -
while I'd never want to watch a video on a tiny nano screen, the
option to carry video & then plug into a hotel tv an watch would be
truly useful, and probably prompt me to buy more stuff from the iTunes store.
post #39 of 83
My wish for a new Shuffle:
4GB or larger
Weather/sweat proof
Same physical size
Same controller (or similar controller with click-type buttons)
Many colors to choose from

Here's why:
When running, or biking, I don't care about a screen. I just want music.
I need to be able to skip a song that I don't feel like listening to, just by reaching down and clicking it.
I need the controls to be activated by feel, and not by having to look at a screen to control it. The Shuffle does that now.

"One more thing"... I would ideally like the 4GB version to cost about $19.99 and the 8GB version to be about $24.99. I can dream, right?
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I totally agree with the things you mentioned here, and I noticed them too last night, but I had to go. I have now adjusted the mock-up accordingly.


That's actually only very subtly different but looks great, the proprotions seem more natural! Thanks Ireland. I would have had a go myself but don't have Photoshop on this Win2K machine at work!

Whilst video on a 3.5cm screen would be unbearable it would be acceptable on the approx 7cm screen Ireland has above. After all video is popular on current mobile phones many of which had lower res and smaller screens that this 3G mock-up.

I could see features like Bluetooth earphones being a 6G iPod feature only whilst the Nano keeps wired earphones to help differenciate the product lines. This 3G Nano would probably be 4Gb and 8Gb (like the iPhone and the models it replaces) with a 16Gb version coming next year.
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