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post #81 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by shanmugam View Post

thanks, two different keyboards huh

www.apple.com/keyboard/

I find it quite curious how the system requirements stated for the wireless is that I will need an existing keyboard for setup. That has to be a mistake.

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post #82 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:18pm
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Of course. That's the way it should be, given how thoroughly they say they inspect their stuff.

I honestly don't understand where society has manufactured the idea that anything "used" must immediately be equated with "junk".

It is used car salesmen...they sell absolute loads of shit as "great in town cars that were only used by granny for church"

If a 12 year old car has 3000 miles on it, I garen-friggen-tee it has been rolled over...but most dealers would tell you otherwise, hense why there is a market for services like Carfax.

Evreybody has been burned by a used car dealer at least once...assuming they own/opperate motor vehicles
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post #83 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:22pm
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

www.apple.com/keyboard/

I find it quite curious how the system requirements stated for the wireless is that I will need an existing keyboard for setup. That has to be a mistake.

NOPE. that's true with current wireless keyboard and mice... that's why they don't ship with wireless
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post #84 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by iJay View Post

NOPE. that's true with current wireless keyboard and mice... that's why they don't ship with wireless

WRONG! Bought one with my mac pro, it came in the box and it set up just fine.

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post #85 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

WRONG! Bought one with my mac pro and it set up just fine.

you might have so. but the requirements are still that you need a wired keyboard and mouse. so they won't ship a computer with a wireless one when their own requirements say otherwise.
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post #86 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

Agreed. These are fine systems for doing 90% of the market needs.

The Pro Machines are for the 10% of the Markets.

Now, when they offer future Cinema's, Mac Pros and OpenGL 2.1 GPUs for CAD/CAM and FEM Modeling, etc., then I'll know Apple really wants the Engineering/SIGGRAPH/ParticlePhysics, etc., Government/University/etc., Commercial/Research markets.

These machines are a great update.

The FW800 is a great addition for these machines.

I buy Game Consoles for Games.

No, they are good for about for 50-60% of the market. The other 30-40% Apple refuses to even acknowledge they exist because they don't quite conform to the slightly screwed up vision that Steve Jobs has of what the computer industry is.

As for the going to buy a console instead, how many times do I have to say that console and computer gaming are NOT the same thing? It's like telling a bunch of baseball players to go play soccer instead.
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post #87 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

Yeah, the iMac used to come with a great little software bundle, now it comes with none. It seems like the deal keeps getting a little worse every time out.

Let me get this streight, mac koolaid drinkers bitch at Dell for shipping bundleware, and bitch because apple DOESNT bundle third party apps? Give me a friggen break!

Office demo, nanusour, Quicken AOL, Earthlink ect that came on my mac a few years ago were nothing more than disk hogs...screw bundleware.
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post #88 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:26pm
Here's something else that doesn't look good -
They have a nice new keyboard, in both wired and wireless, but NO MATCHING MOUSE!
Did I miss the mouse somewhere?
I'd hate to have an "old white mouse" with all the other nice new stuff.
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post #89 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:27pm
Just bought the following:

iMac, 24-inch, Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
Accessory kit
Built-in Display \
320GB Serial ATA Drive
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
Apple wireless Mighty Mouse

Not crazy about the 3-5 weeks for shipping though.
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post #90 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by iJay View Post

you might have so. but the requirements are still that you need a wired keyboard and mouse. so they won't ship a computer with a wireless one when their own requirements say otherwise.


Dude, I went to the apple store and configured it with a wireless keyboard and mouse and that is exactly what they shipped to me.

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post #91 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:29pm
On the tech specs page the 2.8 processor is listed as BTO, but in the Apple Store there is a standard config with it.
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post #92 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post

Just bought the following:

iMac, 24-inch, Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
Accessory kit
Built-in Display \
320GB Serial ATA Drive
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
Apple wireless Mighty Mouse

Not crazy about the 3-5 weeks for shipping though.

Why would you max out the ram when its super easy to replace now and you can save about a hundred bucks getting it from newegg or crutial?
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post #93 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by a_greer View Post

Let me get this streight, mac koolaid drinkers bitch at Dell for shipping bundleware, and bitch because apple DOESNT bundle third party apps? Give me a friggen break!

Office demo, nanusour, Quicken AOL, Earthlink ect that came on my mac a few years ago were nothing more than disk hogs...screw bundleware.

The Appleworks suite, quicken, and bundled game that came with my iBook were pretty useful.
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post #94 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by MacSuperiority View Post

Why would you max out the ram when its super easy to replace now and you can save about a hundred bucks getting it from newegg or crutial?

$70 actually and its top of the line name brand stuff.
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post #95 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:33pm
kinda of funny that the one that was the closest in concept was the chap that did the extra large iPhone concept.
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post #96 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:33pm
oh jesus

you can go to the apple store and buy whatever you want. but a standard apple computer doesn't ship with a wireless apple keyboard.


built to order does not equal ship with or are you gonna tell me the mac pros ship with 16gb of ram?
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post #97 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post

Not crazy about the 3-5 weeks for shipping though.

It seems to be the wireless keyboard which does that. Simply adding RAM or HD doesn't increase ship time for me.
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post #98 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by MacSuperiority View Post

Why would you max out the ram when its super easy to replace now and you can save about a hundred bucks getting it from newegg or crutial?

Admittedly an impulse buy. My iMac G5 died about five months ago so I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this new one. I also figurd that I really wouldn't have saved a whole lot since I'd end up with an extra gig of memory by following your strategy. I haven't done the math, but is it really that much of a savings? And not that I have a lot of money to throw around, but it wasn't worth the time to me to deal with it.
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post #99 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post

Admittedly an impulse buy. My iMac G5 died about five months ago so I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this new one. .

you G5 died already?

my G4 is still going.. i hope it doesn't die on me. i don't want these new computers
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post #100 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post

Admittedly an impulse buy. My iMac G5 died about five months ago so I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this new one. I also figurd that I really wouldn't have saved a whole lot since I'd end up with an extra gig of memory by following your strategy. I haven't done the math, but is it really that much of a savings? And not that I have a lot of money to throw around, but it wasn't worth the time to me to deal with it.

thats where apple makes $$$ from RAM, i always preferred to order RAM from apple store or store where i get my mac, geez i do not like to open new box and install RAM and then screw the whole system...

20" $1299
with 2GB RAM
and
500 GB HDD the base model goes to $1499, it is still expensive, will wait for some promotion for RAM or $100 from amazon or thanks giving day

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post #101 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Apple on Tuesday unveiled its new line of iMac all-in-one desktops, featuring 20- and 24-inch widescreen displays encased in elegant and professional aluminum and glass enclosures.

Everything was absolutely beautiful and what a note to end on, i.e., Steve's answer to one of the analysts question, "Is Apple’s goal to overtake the PC in market share?"

Jobs said, “Our goal is to make the best personal computers in the world and make products we are proud to sell and recommend to our family and friends. We want to do that at the lowest prices we can.

“But there’s some stuff in our industry that we wouldn’t be proud to ship. And we just can’t do it. We can’t ship junk,” said Jobs. “There are thresholds we can’t cross because of who we are. And we think that there’s a very significant slice of the [market] that wants that too. You’ll find that our products are not premium priced. You price out our competitors’ products, and add features that actually make them useful, and they’re the same or actually more expensive. We don’t offer stripped-down, lousy products.” (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08...vent/index.php)
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post #102 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by iJay View Post

you G5 died already?

my G4 is still going.. i hope it doesn't die on me. i don't want these new computers

Sounded like an F-16 going off about 80% of the time after about a year of use. Then the hard drive controller got screwey. I really think I got a lemon. I am still an Apple fan--I just think I was one of the few unlucky ones. This time I didn't think twice about getting Apple Care.
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post #103 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:42pm
I'm going to try to look at it this way: The processor may be slow compared to the new 1333mhz bus desktop core 2 duos, the graphics may be very lackluster, and the slot loading DVD burner may be slow and be incompatible with 3.5" camcorder DVDs, but it does now match my card reader and the external DVD burner and 2.1 speaker set I'm going to have to buy. The lack of a BTO graphics option also saves me money by not having to upgrade to the 24"
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post #104 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:42pm
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oh jesus

Oh Jesus why was I created without a brain??

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post #105 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:43pm
I like this new "helmet" design. It's kinda eighties with the black.

This iMac will blend more subtly in the living room than the white one. It is an improvement but I will wait when they get a LED screen.
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post #106 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:44pm
i never buy apple care... i never in my entire life using apple had any problems with my computers... granted i haven't been using apple for that long, but my iBook got damaged when i got hit by a car and my iMac is still working well (only the air port card is acting funky) and my powerbook is fine too...

i suppose it's down to luck... but i hope i continue to have it. however, if my iMac dies on me, i'm gonna try to shoe horn a mini inside of it. i can't let go of it whn the only replacement now if this new thing they put out today
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post #107 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

Everything was absolutely beautiful and what a note to end on, i.e., Steve's answer to one of the analysts question, "Is Apple’s goal to overtake the PC in market share?"

Jobs said, “Our goal is to make the best personal computers in the world and make products we are proud to sell and recommend to our family and friends. We want to do that at the lowest prices we can.

“But there’s some stuff in our industry that we wouldn’t be proud to ship. And we just can’t do it. We can’t ship junk,” said Jobs. “There are thresholds we can’t cross because of who we are. And we think that there’s a very significant slice of the [market] that wants that too. You’ll find that our products are not premium priced. You price out our competitors’ products, and add features that actually make them useful, and they’re the same or actually more expensive. We don’t offer stripped-down, lousy products.” (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08...vent/index.php)

No, they offer top quality stripped down products. I'm starting to think that little slice of reality that kept Jobs ever so slightly in the real world is slipping away.
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post #108 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:45pm
What type of display do those iMacs have?
6 bit still?
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post #109 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:45pm
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Oh Jesus why was I created without a brain??

to blindly purchase apple products
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post #110 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:47pm
Hehe!
Such a great update.
I'm surprised with Apple Store iMac models, not 3 but 4 and that makes me very but VERY HAPPY! its that the new 24" with 2.8 Intel Core 2 Extreme processors its not a build to order.
That means anyone, no matter if his/her country doenst have an Apple Store can order that beasty !!!!
Of course the 4 gigs from owc, lil saving there of $400.00

I really hopes that goes to the Mac Pro when its updated...

HaR HaR !!
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post #111 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:49pm
Where are the teardown photos?
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post #112 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by iMick View Post

Here's something else that doesn't look good -
They have a nice new keyboard, in both wired and wireless, but NO MATCHING MOUSE!
Did I miss the mouse somewhere?
I'd hate to have an "old white mouse" with all the other nice new stuff.

I guess the white mouse matching the white keys is enough.
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post #113 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:54pm
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A few things....
The new imac does not look white to me...

Also, any comments on the glossy screen? I prefer a non glossy screen, that's why I have a G4 imac and a G4 powerbook still.

I still need to check out if dot-mac is worth keeping.....no change in price.

Frank D.

Please note that the screen on the new iMacs are glass. Actual glass. not plastic or acrylic. So when you press on them, they won't make colorful waves....

Aka, you can clean them (carefully) and they won't scratch as easily. Somebody will probably offer non-glare appliqués which will make everybody happy. And, like Jobs said, it's much more ecologically friendly.

Also, I don't see the reason to have a heart-attack that Apple isn't offering you the contents of the MacPro in a iMac form. Heck, I'm surprised I haven't heard people complaining that Apple isn't giving away free computers that can run Massive.

Computers are great, but....people, let's take a small reality break
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post #114 of 434
8/7/07 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

No, they offer top quality stripped down products. I'm starting to think that little slice of reality that kept Jobs ever so slightly in the real world is slipping away.

It's refreshing to read comments from someone who hasn't fallen under the influence of the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field. Or maybe you're just trying to be controversial. Either way, it's refreshing.
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post #115 of 434
8/7/07 at 2:06pm
2 GB RAM and 500 GB HDD should be offered in both the high end models in 20" and 24"

how much is the two sticks of 1 GB RAM???

How much is the 500 GB HDD nowadays?

Design - Good (after seeing some photos from AI, chinless will be more beautiful though )
RAM size - NOT OK in both the high end models
HDD Size - NOT OK in both the high end models
GPU - not so good (not my opinion - do not know much abt GPU)
SuperDrive - Fixed
CPU - fixed - upgraded to Santa Rosa

anything?

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post #116 of 434
8/7/07 at 2:10pm
Feel like the new design of the iMac is a bit like what happened with BMW a few years back when they re-designed the new 5 series. A misstep. I don't like the black border and the whole thing has a slightly "cheap" feel to it. I would have prefered a black back and all brushed aluminum surface. The front now feels like some of those early cheap widescreen TVs made by Sony.
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post #117 of 434
8/7/07 at 2:14pm
Where is the magnetic Apple remote? Kinda clashes with the color schemes. Unless they...release a silver one!

you heard it here!
at present:
20" 2GHz 2GB iMac Core Duo X.4 & Super Drive

next year:
27" 2.7GHz 4GB iMac Core Duo 3 X.5 & Ultimate Drive
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at present:
20" 2GHz 2GB iMac Core Duo X.4 & Super Drive

next year:
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post #118 of 434
8/7/07 at 2:15pm
It's too bad they don't include a BD-RW (or at least a BD-ROM) drive. Oh well. I'm happy about everything else.

Now I just need to wait for Leopard to come out before I can buy a 24-inch iMac with all the trimmings!

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Feel like the new design of the iMac is a bit like what happened with BMW a few years back when they re-designed the new 5 series. A misstep. I don't like the black border and the whole thing has a slightly "cheap" feel to it. I would have prefered a black back and all brushed aluminum surface. The front now feels like some of those early cheap widescreen TVs made by Sony.

It does look a bit odd, but I'll wait to see one in real life before I render judgement.
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post #119 of 434
8/7/07 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by iJay View Post

oh jesus

you can go to the apple store and buy whatever you want. but a standard apple computer doesn't ship with a wireless apple keyboard.


built to order does not equal ship with or are you gonna tell me the mac pros ship with 16gb of ram?


But that was not the point of this discussion, the point was that someone said that you need to have a wired keyboard in order to set up a wireless keyboard. That is not true as some Apple computers ship without any keyboard and you can just buy a wireless one and it works out of the box. Part of the process of setting up your new mac is pairing the keyboard and mouse, you do nt need to have a wired keyboard already in place.
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post #120 of 434
8/7/07 at 2:17pm
I was hoping the new cinema displays would be released. I wonder how long it will be for those. I can't work on a 15.4" screen all day long. I'm almost borderline ready to get the dell for the price point and since I need the display asap...or should I say a month ago.
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