Originally Posted by addabox
Nice. You just reiterate every talking point that's already been proffered for why it's really wrong for Apple's customers to want anything other than what it gives them, without bothering to address any of the many caveats that have been laid out, and cap it off by dismissing anyone that disagrees with you as a whiny child.
Which would make you what, exactly? I leave that for you to ponder, but I wonder if you even bothered to read the post from the guy that runs that big educational video lab.
If iMovie doesn't work for them, and they are loath to, variously, pin their hopes on an orphaned piece of older software that will never be updated again and will probably steadily lose compatibility with OS X, cross their fingers and hope Apple adds back in some functionality at some point, or spend a great deal of money on software upgrades, what shall we tell them?
What shall we tell all the educational labs that have been using iMovie as a great interactive teaching tool?
"Dear Apple Customer: Too bad. We're all about the switchers now, who don't now any better and are just grateful for an app that doesn't crash. You are whiny babies, fuck off.
What shall we tell the educational labs that have been using iMovie as a teaching tool? How about this: "Hey educational labs, keep using iMovie as a great interactive teaching tool!"
At my university we finally bought an intel iMac lab last year. Up until then we had been using G3 iMacs on 10.3, and whatever version of iMovie ran best on that processor. And they worked great. I'm sorry if you were offended but I stand by my comment.
As I mentioned, I was peeved for about a day about the huge number of Slick plugins I couldn't use and then the Slick support team sent me a very intelligent e-mail that said, basically "We're working on it, iMovie HD still works great." Being the "Mac guy" at the two schools I work for, people constantly come up to me and either complain that Apple just released a new version of this, that, or the other, a month, a week, six weeks after they just bought a Mac.
And I'm always baffled by it.
My response is, "Were you happy with your computer before product X came out?" Yes. "Does your computer still do all the things it did when you bought it?" Yes. "Does your computer still work fine?" Yes. "Well then, what do you have to be unhappy about?"
The principal is the same here. *Except* that there is even *less* validity to the complaints since, again, try to follow me here, iLife 08 is completely, utterly, totally optional! You can actually not buy it *at all* and your Mac will still work! When someone complains about an upgrade that they would have had for free if they had waited a few more weeks to buy their Mac, that can be annoying. Still not a big deal and certainly not "unfair" in any way, but annoying. With iLife, even that slim argument doesn't hold water.
If your point is that the new iMovie sucks and you think it's a bad product, fine. I don't like everything Apple puts out. In fact, up until this newest version, I thought Pages was an out and out dog. Not flexible enough to be a good word processor and too simplistic to be a good layout tool. Here, again, I employed this amazing technique: I didn't *buy it.*
And, for the record, the new iMovie is *not* a crappy product at all. It is easier to use than iMovie HD which, as I recall, was the whole point of it. It is not iMovie HD, nor did anyone at Apple claim that it was.
If I am mischaracterizing your (or anyone's) point-of-view, I apologize, but the clear tone of a lot of these posts is: "Apple done me wrong! Mean, mean Apple broke teh iMovies!" No, they didn't. On either count.
Let's close with the facts:
-iLife 08 is a completely optional piece of software
-Apple made a glut of information about it freely available hours after it was launched
-iLife 08 is suite of five applications for 79 bucks all of which are considered "best in class."
-iMovie HD is not "orphaned" it works just fine and probably will for the foreseeable future. It's an app, not an OS. It doesn't live or die by updates. The vast majority of software made for 10.2, released in the summer of 2002, still works on 10.4 five years later. There is no reason to think iMovie HD won't as well.
Given those facts I did, and still do, think that pretending that Apple has done something "unfair" to you or anyone else is whiny and childish. Now if you just think the new iMovie sucks, so be it.
But unless it has become somehow wrong for a company to release a new suite of apps that is completely optional (and a hell of a value to boot), then Apple hasn't wronged anyone, treated anyone unfairly, or screwed anyone at all.
If you buy iLife 08 you have, at worst, lost *nothing* (not even your older version of iMovie) and gained significant new functionality in most of the suite for 79 bucks.
And then there is the option of just not buying and again, losing nothing *at all.*