Originally Posted by Amorya
But USB and CDRW were improvements over what was already out there. The only problem was the transition period.
No-one's yet convinced me that any of these proposed alternatives to SMS are better. The only reason I see presented is cost, and I maintain that I get enough free SMS messages per month for that not to be an issue. Seriously, there is no other reason it's better. (FWIW, MMS solves the 160 character problem.)
It's not a solved problem. There is no universal solution to this, that works across networks and internationally.
Actually, there is, if people would only use it. At this rate though, you're right, it'll never happen, and we'll continue along in this balkanization of information exchange.
Jabber client on any phone with data capabilities. Jabber -> SMS gateway for legacy phones. This isn't rocket science. I believe MSN is the only major client these days that doesn't include Jabber support. I wonder why that is... hmm... oh right, balkanization.
None of the solutions (as far as I know) provide delivery reports, which show when the SMS is received on the phone.
SMS is nearly free, yes. In fact, my phone contract gives me unlimited MSN IMs as well as a large number of SMS. But I've uninstalled the MSN client from my phone, since I don't want to use IM on the move. I have tried both and found SMS to be superior!
Great! It's there for you to use. I'm talking about where things are *going*, not just where they *are*. Apple has repeatedly made moves that look utterly daft when surrounded by the current market - but prove to be prophetic about where things are *going*. I believe this is another one.
You can only do that if you know their mobile network, to know what address to send to.
Stop trying to propose 'solutions' that require more work on my part than the existing state of play!
Sorry, I just don't buy this. When I send an IM, an email, call, or txt someone on my phone, I never, and I mean never, have to remember their address, screenname, phone number... I select *them*, and the rest is taken care of for me. There's no extra work to do. If they call, txt, IM, or email me first, then I never even have to enter in their info in the first place. It just works, as it should. I rarely ever dial a number, enter an address, or screenname manually. I pick from a list, or autocomplete takes over and I only ever have to remember their actual name. Or part of it. Pretty simple. *shrug*
Look, the lack of MMS surprised me too - for about five seconds. The iPhone isn't about bringing internet to the phone networks, it's about making the phone network Just Another ISP to access the internet. The internet is where all the good stuff is happening. Being blocked from it by your carrier is just kind of silly, when the hardware is more than capable. Breaking the current business models to get the carriers into the ISP bin is going to take a while, but I do believe that's where this is going.
Hell, bring some of the more useful features of SMS (receipt notification) into the world of IM, for all I care - the point is that the phone networks are currently off in their own sandbox, and limiting user access to the wider internet, as well as charging an arm and a leg for simple data transfers to other phones, when there's no reason other than people let them. *Nobody* would put up with an ISP that did that in this day and age. They used to exist, but folks realized how phenomenally stupid that was. We're seeing exactly the same thing now with the cell carriers. History will repeat itself. Any protocol that insists on being tied to a specific network will be subsumed by a protocol that spans networks. That's just the way these things work out over time.
The iPhone is a shot, not over the bow of the carriers, but right at their waterline. And I don't even think most of them realize it.