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post #1 of 21
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The Rigister has a new story concerning new Powermacs and the G5 <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/23078.html" target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/23078.html</a>

It looks like the source of all these rumors is the same so are we all excited about nothing? The more we hear the more it seems real. I just hope we are not going to dissapointed in January.

15" LCD 1Ghz G3/600Mhz G4 SuperDrive iMacs

and

1.2, 1.4 & 1.6Ghz G5 DDR Powermacs

God I hope it's true, then we can stop worring obout hardware and concentrate on software!
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post #2 of 21
Either this is one of the most elaborate pranks I've seen, (several leaks to the register, all believable, timed appropriately) or we're in for a real treat.
post #3 of 21
My sources* tell me that MOSR will report this same info very soon.


*I have no sources


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post #4 of 21
MOSR licks my backside.
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post #5 of 21
The most telling thing will be whether or not Apple denies the rumor. Apple has seemingly taken to a policy of denying unfounded rumors due to the negative sales effect they may have.

If the instant rebate on the G4 and LCD displays is any sign, I would figure that we are about to see a serious update, whether it is G4 or G5 based I think will end up being relatively irrelevant if the other components (faster bus, memory etc. discussed ad nauseum elsewhere) contribute significantly to a faster system.

Net net... There are too many signs pointing to something new to completely disregard a significant upgrade.
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post #6 of 21
The magnitude of this rumored upgrade makes me very suspicious. My rational mind agrees with Bozo's evaluation that this is an elaborate prank.

Anybody remember the old thread wherer we confessed successful pranks on MOSR and AI?

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post #7 of 21
The one piece of corroborating evidence that gives me a shred of hope is MacEdition's Naked Mole Rat.

He claims the following:

1) 1GHz barrier will be "left far behind."

2) The so-called "G5" will be Apollo G4s not the true 64 bit G5s

Without that I would safely say the information in the Register and MOSR is bunk.
post #8 of 21
I'm saving my money, just in case, but I not holding my breath.
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post #9 of 21
I think it's agreed that something's going to happen to the Professional line. Whether it's a G5 or not is a whole different story, so getting this excited is dangerous. If we get a 1.2 Ghz G4 it will now be a let down because of all the hope for the G5.

Then again, the AI owners over at MacNN will love it. Can you imagine all the whining posts these boards will get? They could approach advertisers following the Jan 5 keynote and say "see, look... we can get over 5,000 posts in one hour! Now cough up the $$$"


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post #10 of 21
what ads?

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post #11 of 21
Shhhhhhh...

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post #12 of 21
At this point, I don't even care if it's true, I just LOVE reading about it.
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post #13 of 21
If anyone was taking us for a ride, I doubt they'd do it in this grand of a fashion. At some point they'd probably stop.

Another reason why we could be surprised (well technically its expected now) is because other major companies such as Cisco and Silicon Graphics have expressed interest in the G5. That would be 3 big time customers for Motorola. Now with the G4 and G3 Apple has been their only customer. Apple doesn't have a big market share in the PC world and Moto may have just said it's not worth our time. Now if the source is correct, the G5 gives them some big time cash.
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post #14 of 21
Motorola has already released a G5 class processor (the 8540).

<a href="http://www.mot.com/SPS/RISC/smartnetworks/products/hostproc/MPC8540_M98655.htm" target="_blank">http://www.mot.com/SPS/RISC/smartnetworks/products/hostp roc/MPC8540_M98655.htm</a>

A look at its specs, makes what The Register says very plausible.

[ 11-28-2001: Message edited by: *l++ ]</p>
post #15 of 21
[quote]
Motorola has already released a G5 class processor (the 8540).

<a href="http://www.mot.com/SPS/RISC/smartnetworks/products/hostp" target="_blank">http://www.mot.com/SPS/RISC/smartnetworks/products/hostp</a> roc/MPC8540_M98655.htm

A look at its specs, makes what The Register says very plausible.
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Released? Or just announced? Thought I'd read somewhere else that this chip wasn't due out until 2nd half of '02.
post #16 of 21
[quote]Originally posted by *l++:
<strong>Motorola has already released a G5 class processor (the 8540).

<a href="http://www.mot.com/SPS/RISC/smartnetworks/products/hostproc/MPC8540_M98655.htm" target="_blank">http://www.mot.com/SPS/RISC/smartnetworks/products/hostp roc/MPC8540_M98655.htm</a>

A look at its specs, makes what The Register says very plausible.

[ 11-28-2001: Message edited by: *l++ ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


that chip is slow (relatively) and lacks altivec making it slower than the chips we have today.
post #17 of 21
Perhaps that chip *IS* the G5,, without an Altivec unit and a bit slower than the desktop version. No sarcasm intended. Moto may have been trying out a simple version of it on the SOI/0.13 micron process for the embedded market, which would make the G5 as we expect alot simpler to fabricate with the 8540 experience.

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post #18 of 21
[quote]Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong>At this point, I don't even care if it's true, I just LOVE reading about it.
:o </strong><hr></blockquote>

Which of course means that it cannot be true
post #19 of 21
<a href="http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0,1958,568_322_23,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0,1958,568_32 2_23,00.html</a>

If the G5 is to be in the 85XX product line, as a lot of people have been posting, I thought it was interesting that the MPC8540 won't be even sampling until " the second half of 2002."

The MPC8540 is an anounced chip with the specifications fairly well outlined. The MPC85XX - G5 has not been announced and information on it is relatively speculative.

My guess is that the G5 will come out after the MPC8540, hence, would be sampling later in the 2nd half of 2002 and introduced at the end of the year. Hope I'm wrong, but .......

One additional piece of information, sorry no link but it is in Motorola's press releases in April I believe. Motorola has been manufacturing embedded chip cores using HiP7(0.13┬Ám, SOI) since around April. This should give them valuable information about the manuf. process and work out problems. Some one, I believe it was Eskimo felt like this process was being used on ram chips?? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway this may be an indication that the G4 Apollo will be ready by Jan.

Disclaimer: I do not work in the computer industry, do not know much technical information about computers.

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: rickag ]</p>
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post #20 of 21
[quote]Originally posted by rickag:
<strong><a href="http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0,1958,568_322_23,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0,1958,56 8_32 2_23,00.html</a>

If the G5 is to be in the 85XX product line, as a lot of people have been posting, I thought it was interesting that the MPC8540 won't be even sampling until " the second half of 2002."</strong><hr></blockquote>

i think by now every apple enthuisiast or otherwise has come to the realization that there are no solid hints such as this left out in the open without apple legal getting involved... i'm sure some of you remember the fiasco with ATI. I'm also sure everyone realizes that ship dates can change and moto has no obligation to update them to the general public. They could say it will arrive in 2005 and it wouldn't make a difference until of course the chip is sent out.
post #21 of 21
The Security and Exchange Commission frowns on feeding misleading or inaccurate information willfully.
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