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If Apple has really used this as a slogan for its up and coming event and it is linked to the use by the Beatles then maybe this means the end of the iPod. Apple is pulling out. Just like a band does at the peak of their career Apple is now opening up Fairplay to other players so that "The Beat Goes On"


Makes sense. Not like the iPod makes any money for them....
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If Apple has really used this as a slogan for its up and coming event and it is linked to the use by the Beatles then maybe this means the end of the iPod. Apple is pulling out. Just like a band does at the peak of their career Apple is now opening up Fairplay to other players so that "The Beat Goes On"


Yeah, WTF are you talking about?

Beatles on iTunes
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post #44 of 134
Well, I think based on the invitation and the rumors, an iPod with CoverFlow seems most likely.

At this point who cares if any of this stuff runs OS X. It's really meaningless (to anyone except the bean counters) since Apple isn't supporting 3rd party development on any of it.
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The Flaming Lips, and I don't know the last one.

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SONIC YOUTH; album "Rather Ripped".
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post #46 of 134
If it's new iPods all 'round, I'm definitely upgrading. Screw the at&t iPhone.

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post #47 of 134
I'd buy a Beatles iPod.
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Really I kind of was hoping for the second. I think its about time Apple had some new blood.

An Apple without Steve Jobs might bring along a system that the use can actually upgrade, even better Os X that can be run an any system not just Apple hardware.

Lately the releases have had all mixed reviews, iphone, imacs mixed reviews, iMovie change mixed reviews, iLife, numbers isn't all that great. I expect the new ipods and leopard to be well below expectations.

Actually a mid range system that I can upgrade and putting Os X on any system of my choice would be a wonderful gift. However I fully expect to hear the Pope converted to Jewish before either of the other two happen.

It all sounds good to me except Apple might lose it creativity. Imagine if Mark Hurd from HP ran Apple or even Michael Dell. We'd definitely get the mid range Mac and then some. Mac OSX would be running on every vendor's hardware, but would anyone care then?

Steve's RDF is what sells a good chunk of Apple products. Apple is about classic marketing hype. Though we're left with disappointments we always come back for more, hence this and other rumor sites.
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It's been clear that Apple without Steve would be a waning Apple. He cannot be replaced, until someone plays Brutus to his Caesar.

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post #50 of 134
i need this to be new ipods! i've waited so long to purchase a new one, my second gen ipod just crapped out!
post #51 of 134
Beatles iPod? Who knows, but I think the placement of an album's art in the invite is also quite telling...

Beastie Boys, Beatles...

Now, I know that the Joel Johnson, Sonic Youth, Flaming Lips etc wouldn't make sense (non alphabetic...) but I figure it's just a subtle hint, as "the beat goes on" is.

post #52 of 134
The correct line is:
Keane - Under the Iron Sea
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
Beastie boys - The Mix-Up
Mika - Life in Cartoon Motion
Jack Johnson - In Between Dreams
Sonic Youth - Rather Ripped
post #53 of 134
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This will be a very interesting iPod release from a corporate strategy point of view. (Obvious prediction: No new Macs. No Leopard news. That's for another special event in October.)

But will Apple be bold or conservative?

You know, I read that thinking great question - and leaping to something like the iPod now being independent of your personal iTunes. eg: Plug your iPod into any computer, and have it download the latest podcasts you've subscribed to, and update your smart playlists - perhaps even sync via the internet back to your regular iTunes. Maybe you could get your iPod to download purchased movies while at work and sync them to your home PC when you get home.


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And any old iPod could do that, if the iTunes on your local PC is given the brains to lookup your podcasts and remotely sync. BUT a wireless iPod might do it without iTunes.

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Bold like with the mini, nano, and shuffle intros. Or conservative like last year's small iPod upgrades. Will they be bold and release a widescreen OS X-based touchscreen iPod with WiFi, on the hopes that they can upsell such a user to a future 3G iPhone (since WiFi isn't everywhere), instead of worrying that they are cannibalizing today's iPhone sale?

I hope they take the risk. If they hobble new iPods to avoid cannibalizing the iPhone, then competitors will have the opportunity of filling the gap (and so they should and keep Apple moving!).

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Will there be an AppleTV upgrade? To go along with a bold iTunes movie/TV subscription service? (At the iMac intro, Jobs implied he would talk about AppleTV at another event soon.)

That'd be nice. In fact - allowing the iPods and AppleTV to connect to the net, download movies etc, independently of iTunes would be a nice double feature.

Subscription/rental service would be even better but I'm in Australia... so I've given up on that. I want to give Apple money but they won't let me!
post #54 of 134
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If Apple has really used this as a slogan for its up and coming event and it is linked to the use by the Beatles then maybe this means the end of the iPod. Apple is pulling out. Just like a band does at the peak of their career Apple is now opening up Fairplay to other players so that "The Beat Goes On"

Interesting concept that it could mean "Fairplay for all".

I'm not sure why that would mean the end of the iPod though?
post #55 of 134
Maybe they are going to announce that they are going to buy Adobe...
post #56 of 134
Like I said in another thread, if the leaked shots are real:

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"They could do:

iPod (touch screen): 60GB $299, 100GB $399

iPod mini (stubby video): 16GB $249

iPod nano (current design): 4GB $149 (silver), 8GB $199 (old 4GB colour options)

iPod Shuffle: 2GB $69

As well as take iTunes movies international, because the mini is a another way to get people into buying video, and the mini is a strong brand that was their best seller at the time and did have paler colours than the nano (which these shots have)."

However I'd love for apple to undercut on the price even more (because we know they can) and they'd sell even more units crushing competitors even further into the ground, anyone could afford an iPod or multiple iPods:

iPod (touch screen): 60GB $299, 100GB $399

iPod mini (stubby video): 16GB $199

iPod nano (current design): 4GB $99 (silver), 8GB $149 (old 4GB colour options)

iPod Shuffle: 2GB $59

At those prices I'd get the stubby nano and a touch screen 60gb just for the hell of it, at the original prices I put I'd only get the 60gb touch.
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iPod mini (stubby video): 16GB $199.

I doubt they could get that cheap. The 8GB nano is $249 now and can't do video. To add video & double the memory... I just don't think they can drop the price.

One thing I havent seen mentioned is the possibility that the iPhone price will come down. It had to start off high priced to meet the supply & demand. An iPod Touch wont take as man users from the iPhone if the iPhone is $100 cheaper
post #58 of 134
Ok, Apple releases new mini-OSX iPods and reveals their software strategy. Buy mini-OSX software on iTunes, starting with a couple of widgets and an enhanced PhotoBooth with customizable frames and layers... and yeah, they announce the Beatles on iTunes.
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Maybe they are going to announce that they are going to buy Adobe...

Oh... OK then.
post #60 of 134
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However I'd love for apple to undercut on the price even more (because we know they can) and they'd sell even more units crushing competitors even further into the ground, anyone could afford an iPod or multiple iPods:

When you're already crushing the competition, lowering your prices is pointless. Ride the profits longer.
post #61 of 134
I'm sure it's just coincidence... but a potential track from Madonna's forthcoming album is called "The Beat Goes On", produced by Pharell Williams. It leaked a couple of weeks ago. It doesn't sound strong enough to be a Madonna single... but who can say. Madonna's next releases are scheduled for October.
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Is it just me, or is the 5th a Wednesday? I guess Labour Day pushes the event back a day. Yay! New iPod Day!

.. and the 5th is my birthday!
post #63 of 134
I think we'll see te widescreen iPod touch this time around. At least, I hope so. I'm already standing here with my money... I've wanted one since I saw what it could do on iPhone.

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post #64 of 134
When I first saw the invite, I thought, "Widescreen". If they include a TV tuner for the Japan model, they will have a sensational hit. Cell phones here that include TV tuners (the whole country is now digital TV) sell like hotcakes.

 

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post #65 of 134
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I doubt they could get that cheap. The 8GB nano is $249 now and can't do video. To add video & double the memory... I just don't think they can drop the price.

Probably not drop the price, but a 16GB player with video at $250 probably wouldn't be an issue. It would be a question of interest. I just found an interview with a Sansa rep (or maybe CEO) that said that they won't do that this year, but they say that their market is sub-$150. They had an 8GB nano-like (though thicker) video player since last year.
post #66 of 134
I just want a widescreen iPod that's at least 80GB. I don't care if it's touchscreen. I don't care if it runs OS X (though both of those would be cool). And I really, really couldn't care less if it has WiFi, which I would just see as a battery-waster.

Widescreen. 80GB. You can do that, right Apple?

I promised my fiancée that a new iPod would be the only "big ticket" item I'd buy before our wedding (we're paying for it ourselves). My 40GB 4th gen (monochrome screen!) is chugging along without a problem, but it is starting to feel rather dated.
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post #67 of 134
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"The beat goes on" was a Sonny & Cher song and the ipod on the invitation is NOT widescreen...

So, just out of interest, was the Cher song title itself a reference to the Beatle's 1970 statement or just a rip off?

I am with the camp that says it will an iPhone like iPod in every way only without the phone and the Beatles catalog will be available, indeed as with U2, a Beatles iPod will be available. Perhaps it will be yellow like the submarine? lol
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So, just out of interest, was the Cher song title itself a reference to the Beatle's 1970 statement or just a rip off?

Nope, the song is actually older than the beatles quote, namely from 1967

(Hail be wikipedia and general boredom )
post #69 of 134
Another iPod? (Yawn.) It's been done. Ipods are falling out of people's drawers we've got so many. We're saturated. If you want to do another iteration of something, try the Cube or the Newton.
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Nope, the song is actually older than the beatles quote, namely from 1967

(Hail be wikipedia and general boredom )

Thanks. So the Beatle's publicist ripped off Cher lol
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post #71 of 134
iPod Video
— OS X based. Will look similar to iPHone except will be shorter as it doesn't need an external speaker, and will be fatter to accommodate HDD. I predict 60 and 100GB variety with a slight chance of an 60.80 and 120GB options.

— Will these new 6G iPods have Wifi with Safari, Mail, and Widgets. My first reaction is no, but perhaps the top end model will offer the WiFi Option.


iPod Nano
— Double the capacity. With inflated NAND prices I doubt we'll see a price reduction. THESE WILL NOT RUN OS X! There is no need and the ARM CPU and RAM will just not allow it. It will also not play back video. There just isn't' enough power.


iPod Shuffle
— Maybe a 0.5 to 1.0GB increase but it's not really practical on a device with no display. I suggest lowering the price-point and keeping the same capacity.


Beatles
— I do think the entire Beatles catalog will be on iTunes Sept. 5th. What I wonder is if Apple, Inc. also has some other deal with Apple Corp that will allow them not only sell music but to promote new music.

— The labels are the ones making all the money They promote the artists and do all the advertising so they should be making a goood deal of profit for their investment, but iTunes is in a unique position of being able to promote and advertise bands too... and at a much reduced cost and with much less overhead and significantly less risk.

— We've already seen how emusic.com has helped promote new music, so why shouldn't Apple do the same. The only problem I see is that the major labels will certainly not like it, but with iTunes being the 3rd largest retailer is there really anything they can do about it at this point? Oh yeah, they can team up with Real/MTV and Walmart. haha

— I foresee Apple cutting out the middle man and promoting new music from independent labels. That is more money for Apple and more money for the artists. This also undermines their biggest internet-based competitor.


AppleTV Movie Rentals
— This is so overdue and will make the AppleTV the "4th leg" of Apple's product line and not just a "hobby" appliance. Jobs certainly tried to play that one off. But will it be available on Sept 16th? Despite my overwhelming desire that it is, I don't think it will pass.

— There will be no TV Tuner! Apple wants you to stream video via iTunes. The movie deals are certainly lagging behind, but a TV tuner with DVR would kill the iTunes Store overnight. If anything were to happen, Apple would rather sell you DVD, HD-DVD and/or Blu-ray optical drives that interface with the unused USB port on the AppleTV... but I don't see that happening either unless there is no chance that MPAA will budge on their current stance.


Using iPod for Data Storage
— Can we expect that PDF, DOC, and XLS files will be viewable using Coverflow in these OS X based iPods? It certainly would be nice. All they have to add Preview.app to make this possible. Of course, this isn't even available on the iPHone yet.


Mail, Notes, To Dos and Address Book
— Will we be able to at least download and view our (read title) this items in the new 6G iPods. That would be such a great benefit, but that may cannibalize the iPhone a bit if they did that.

— With Address Book now running on OS X I would like the option to at least add new Address Book contacts, Notes and To Dos that will auto sync with iTunes. The latter two will have to wait until Leopard is released.


Okay, I think that is all my concerns, questions and thoughts on the subject.
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post #72 of 134
...sure, because EVERYTHING on wikipedia is true and accurate...

touch video iPods are going to cost some coin. if the 4gb iPhone is 499, then any touch iPhone with large capacity [100 gb HDD] will probably be the same or more money. i don't care if it doesn't have safari or a phone, the gsm antenna and extra bit of software aren't that expensive, and they won't cannibalize the iPhone that quickly.

i see full-screen touch iPods at $399 [80 gb] and $449 [100 gb], both w/ wifi & bluetooth [maybe IrDA for some sweet syncing 100 gigs of music in about a month.]
i would be surprised if the nano [w/ video?] goes to 16gb for less than $299, and from the shots i've seen, i'm not too impressed w/ the design. i'll have to see it in person though. there will be price cuts on the low end - but will it be $99 2Gig nano's or $79 2Gig shuffles? i don't see a place for both.

if these iPods are all flash [beat goes on, end of hard drives] then steve is a fool. it's far too soon, and very few people are going to "upgrade" from a 30 or 80 gb iPod to a 16gb model.

Anyone expecting Apple to drop there prices lower than this really doesn't know anything about the company - they've never been about being the cheapest, they are about being the best.
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This could be early morning blurry vision, but you can kind of make out "THE BEATLES" from the album cover titles.

Cover 1: THE
Cover 2: [space]
Cover 3: BEA
Cover 4: T (guys arms spread like a t)
Cover 5: L (lines come together in an L-like shape)
Cover 6: E (f you squint at the tree, you can force a capitol E out)
Cover 7: S (look at just the black, and ignore the H)
post #74 of 134
Anyone got a high-res of the invitation? Looks like a couple of silhouetted figures in the upper left.
post #75 of 134
I just saw on the iTunes Store that several US TV series are now available for sale in Blighty.

Let's hope they stick some BBC and C4 stuff on there soon too.

I suppose I can now start consider buying AppleTV and, err, a TV I suppose.
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Thanks. So the Beatle's publicist ripped off Cher lol

Or probably ripped off Sonny. I think he did the writing. At the time of the Beatles demise, the Sonny and Cher song was still in everyone's memory-- it was a hit song for them-- so most likely the Beatles release was referring to the song's message, namely, that things are changing, technology moves on, but life goes on for most people pretty much the same. You'd have to know the impact of the Beatles' dissolution at the time. It was like the end of an era. The Beatles were just saying, hey, life goes on, you'lll get over it.

So maybe Apple is just letting us know that we will see the natural evolution of things that are already out there. Improved iPods. They're overdue.

Of course, if the Apple PR folks remember BOTH the Beatles' release AND the S&C song, that would be a cool double entendre hinting at the possibility of the Beatles's music finally being available on iTunes.
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This could be early morning blurry vision, but you can kind of make out "THE BEATLES" from the album cover titles.

Cover 1: THE
Cover 2: [space]
Cover 3: BEA
Cover 4: T (guys arms spread like a t)
Cover 5: L (lines come together in an L-like shape)
Cover 6: E (f you squint at the tree, you can force a capitol E out)
Cover 7: S (look at just the black, and ignore the H)

I hate to say it, but I see it.

Except the 'S' at the end.
post #78 of 134
A bigger screen Nano cannot coexist with the current iPod. The Nano and the classic iPod will thus morph together into one product. It is a shame because I really like the current Nano design.

After 905 the iPod family might be like this:

1/ Shuffle

2/ Nano

3/ Widescreen iPod
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iPod (touch screen): 60GB $299, 100GB $399

iPod mini (stubby video): 16GB $199

iPod nano (current design): 4GB $99 (silver), 8GB $149 (old 4GB colour options)

iPod Shuffle: 2GB $59

i like this, but 16GB still expensive.

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what i like to see new in iPods

1. scratch proof materials
2. similar design but varied capacity and screen size
3. similar color offers (aka more colors for iPod Video REAL)
4. slightly cheaper price OR more capacity than the competitor
5. ...

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