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post #321 of 358
I see where Eugene is coming from regarding the danger of tabs becoming the ONLY way to implement documents within an app (like Preferences tabs) but I don't think this will happen. Apple can easily add a guideline to make sure that multi-window usage and detachment of tabs is always an option (they'd have to follow their own guidelines with the preference tabs first, of course).

I don't see the danger in tabs being abused if such guidelines are followed. Apple will never (again) preclude the usage of a multi-window environment and I can't see any developer doing it without major asswhipping by users (well Quark might do it - they're just stupid enough, and so are their stalwart users).
post #322 of 358
Well, dare I say we're coming to a consensus (minus an obstanant few...). Although we disagree as to whether tabs are good now, we all think that there could be something better than tabs. So, what might this entail?

I see a few possibilities.
  • We have the windows task bar ideology, where all documents (open and closed) are listed in a bar of some sort. Perhaps it could go on the side of the screen, with the dock reserved at the bottom. But how do folders fit in to this scheme? They're not really windows...are they? Which bar would they go into?
  • There's a minimize in place option, where, instead of a window travelling all the way down to the dock, it just 'windowshades' or 'minimizes' (to a small photo) right where it is. This doesn't seem to address the problem of calling up a window that's behind another in one click, though.
  • Another option would be to have the universal, document-centric tabs, like Eugene has thought through. All windows would open as their own independent window at the beginning, but you could double click the title bar, and they would become anchored to the operating system's tab interface that is on the desktop just below the menubar. Another double click, and they're back into their own window. The biggest pitfall with this idea is the desktop. . . . It would have to be surrendered.
  • Any others?
My personal favorite is the extra dock on the side of the monitor. All windows would create a dynamically updated image of their contents, even if they are open. On mouse over, their names would pop up like in the dock. I imagine that this could even be done with a haxie.

Ah well, enough for 4 AM in the morning. I'm going to bed now. I hope that this makes sense since, well have you ever written something late at night and then later in the morning you look back on it and then realize that it was really poorly written at four am in the morning and that it doesn't make any sense because it repeats, and yeah, and see, I really don't want that to happen, and so I think I'll go to bed now. G'night.
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post #323 of 358
Some may feel tabs hinder the interactive conceptual model used by the application, but that is better than reducing the practical usability for PC switchers, or Chimera users.

alt ideas:

--hold down a button, tabs un-hide.

--truncated multi-line URL field with moveable focus widget and/or clickable icons.
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post #324 of 358
[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>I see where Eugene is coming from regarding the danger of tabs becoming the ONLY way to implement documents within an app (like Preferences tabs) but I don't think this will happen. Apple can easily add a guideline to make sure that multi-window usage and detachment of tabs is always an option (they'd have to follow their own guidelines with the preference tabs first, of course).</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not really. This has nothing to do with interface builders adding tabs to apps and everything to do with how users decide to use them. I think it's highly unlikely most better app developers would remove the better way of doing things in favor of tabs only.
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[quote]Originally posted by bauman:
<strong>Well, dare I say we're coming to a consensus (minus an obstanant few...). Although we disagree as to whether tabs are good now, we all think that there could be something better than tabs. So, what might this entail?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I would compromise with a limited tear-off menu idea (borrowed from NeXT.) Within the Window menu, there would be an option to show a floating palette with a list of open windows. This allows the windows to stay independent of each other while also providing instant visual feedback and access to all the open windows. It would be like the OS 9 Application Switcher, but for windows... There's already a helper app that performs a similar function.

This is better than tabs in several ways:
1) The palette would be resizable without changing the dimensions of a web page.
2) The palette could be set to always be on top, unlike having two windows with their own tabs.
3) The palette would list items vertically by default...horizontally if you're a masochist.
4) You don't have to worry about having certain tabs in other windows.
5) You won't lose all your tabs by closing the palette since it's just a visual representation of open windows and not an actual container.
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[quote]Originally posted by Eugene:
<strong>

I would compromise with a limited tear-off menu idea (borrowed from NeXT.) Within the Window menu, there would be an option to show a floating palette with a list of open windows. This allows the windows to stay independent of each other while also providing instant visual feedback and access to all the open windows. It would be like the OS 9 Application Switcher, but for windows... There's already a helper app that performs a similar function.

This is better than tabs in several ways:
1) The palette would be resizable without changing the dimensions of a web page.
2) The palette could be set to always be on top, unlike having two windows with their own tabs.
3) The palette would list items vertically by default...horizontally if you're a masochist.
4) You don't have to worry about having certain tabs in other windows.
5) You won't lose all your tabs by closing the palette since it's just a visual representation of open windows and not an actual container.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ah, yes. I like it. Instead of having an App-centric Window menu, have a universal Operating System Window menu, and it would be placed where the old application menu was in OS 9. You could then tear it off, if you so desired.

So, anyone know how to make a menubar haxie that could do this?
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post #328 of 358
Tear-off Window menu... I like it. It's a good idea.
post #329 of 358
HOLY SCHNIBNITZ!

Is it possible we've reached... *GASP*... consensus?!?

Funny that we end up full circle back to a UI element from 1986 to replace tabs...
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post #330 of 358
[quote]Originally posted by Kickaha:
<strong>HOLY SCHNIBNITZ!

Is it possible we've reached... *GASP*... consensus?!?

Funny that we end up full circle back to a UI element from 1986 to replace tabs... </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah...back when UI ideas were actually researched.
post #331 of 358
I haven't read this entire thread so hope not to be repeating...

I love my 12" PB. It has a beautiful small screen.

Tear off menus, floating palettes, NO!

Tabs are awesome for a small screen. They are also nice on my iMac 15" screen.

Adobe apps would be easier to use without all of the floating palettes...on this screen size.

I like tabs. I liked them on Chimera and I think I will like Safari's version even better.

Anyway, they are an option.

I would like to have the option of palettes or tabs in the same app. Maybe you could tear off the tabs and they would essentially then be floating palettes.

Choice is nice.
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post #332 of 358
I don't like the idea IF it means that I still have multiple BROWSER windows littering my screen.

I used (and enjoyed) Action Utility's GoMac. It helped me a lot. BUT I never learned to use the pop-up listing of windows....too entrenched in using the WINDOWS menu in Photoshop, Illustrator...name an app.

The tear-off Finder app-switcher was something that I'd use on other machines when they didn't have GoMac installed. I believe this is all resolved around the fact that I just don't work on LARGE monitors. My habits might change MARKEDLY if that were to change (something I'm more than ready to try, depending on $$$ falling into my lap).

If you have a floating palette that obscures portions of windows then it might not be as happily received for people on small screens....that would be my only cautionary statement about the idea being batted around here.

A separate application DOCK that can HIDE is an interesting idea. Giving it a key command combo would be interesting too. One combo lets you flip between documents belonging to the application, another combo lets you switch between all open documents. How would this Dock let you "see" what these documents actually contain though? The previews, even magnified, are tiny.


Can you guys tell me how your various ideas would address these two situations:

INSTANCE #1
I'm in Photoshop and I have seven images open and active. I only want to shop between one of my photoshop documents, not every open screen window. What will make your new document picker faster (or better) than going up to the WINDOW menubar or using the CMD-tilde command?

INSTANCE #2
I'm in Microsoft Word and I want to see one of the five open browser windows in Safari. How will the application switcher let me do this?

Do YOUR methods allow me the option to HIDE other open windows until they are selected? Do your methods allow me to turn this OFF when I'm in the middle of drag-n-drop, multi-window fever?

There, that might help push you to 10 pages...


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post #333 of 358
For Safari Tab Fans, some thoughts:

When you use tabs you almost always know what each tab is with a great deal of familiarity, but there are still those pesky long page titles that don't help to jog your memory on the occasion that you forget what page a tab represents.

What's the solution here? Can the browser be improved to better parse the page code to give the page a better title? I don't want Safari to bloat on THAT account. Could Safari just number pages (AppleInsider#1, AppleInsider #2, etc)? Will it allow the user to assign their own tags for the page? If the page is frequently visited could there be a database of user-assigned names?

Micro-icons have become fairly popular, not sure if the mozilla project is responsible for their development BUT, what if websites had one more tag designed for browsers with tabs? The website designers would be responsible for providing concise descriptive names.

Would this work? I personally don't think so, especially on dynamically generated pages.

Anyway, those are some constructive thoughts for people who are fans of tabs in their browser.
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post #334 of 358
As others have said, the problem with floating windows is that they obscure your browser window(s). That's okay if you have a large screen and you don't need your browser to take the entire screen, but a floating window would take LOTS of room, especially if you have lots of windows open and you make the window wide enough to display a sufficiently long portion of each window's title. Still, it could work.

I just thought of another reason I like tabs, other than having all my pages in a single place that doesn't take much room - they allow you to make your window the size you want and it won't be hampered by browsers that can't figure out what "full screen" is. Remember when Safari came out, how it drew new windows with the upper left corner centered on the screen? If it was tabbed, I wouldn't mind because I'd just resize and move that one window and then everything would be fine unless I wanted multiple windows. With a multi-window browser, though, you have to individually go through and fix each window's size, shape and position because you're opening lots of windows. Good programming can get rid of that problem, of course, but it's still kinda there. I have my dock on the left side of the screen but Safari's option-click of the green widget resizes the window to be nice to people who have their dock on the bottom like Apple wants them to. All browser makers have to adopt a better method of window resizing to be aware of the dock's size AND position, as well as the presence of a floating window associated with the browser.
post #335 of 358
Here's an idea for the floating palette window that might work....what if it only appeared when you hold down a key combination, and it was a nice translucent window with the entire &lt;TITLE&gt; tag's content spelled out...very much like OS 9's application switcher, but it fades away (or goes away) when it's not needed.

Still, I like tabs because I know that the leftmost one is (for instance) CNN, the next one is AppleInsider, the next one is Google, the next one is my own site. Move, click, BOOM. (By the way, using the WINDOW menubar option is "move, click, move up, move down, find the right thing, stay on top of it until it is highlighted, release".

That example was provided as a petty swipe at the anti-tab crowd, but mostly to push us toward the next page....hope it helps.

har, har, hardee har


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post #336 of 358
[quote]Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
<strong>As others have said, the problem with floating windows is that they obscure your browser window(s). That's okay if you have a large screen and you don't need your browser to take the entire screen, but a floating window would take LOTS of room, especially if you have lots of windows open and you make the window wide enough to display a sufficiently long portion of each window's title. Still, it could work.</strong><hr></blockquote>

As someone with a Pismo, how is that any different than tabs, which are Yet Another Toolbar-esque Strip across the top that eats up pixelspace just as efficiently as a tear-off Windows menu?

Personally my browser windows are stripped down to just content and title bar. No Address Bar, no Bookmark Bar, nada.
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post #337 of 358
Yet Another Toolbar doesn't need to be moved in order to see what's behind it. Because there's nothing behind it other than a web page. Just scroll and you got it. Unfortunately, you can't scroll a browser's controls to get them out from under a floating window. A floating window obscures both content AND window controls, and the only way to get around it is to minimize it, close it, or move it.

A key combo would be pretty cool. Then you'd only see the window when you want to, and never when you don't.

I thought of another idea - it's similar to how Windows uses the little display for alt-tab. When you hit alt-tab, that little window pops up and shows you what window/application you'll be switching to. Well... why not make it so a little transparent window pops up when you hit cmd-~, so you can see which window you'd be going to before you go to it. It could even look kinda like the dock... transparent, with previews of what the page looks like in a line and magnifying when you select them. Multiple uses of the key command cycle through, adding shift goes back. That could be kinda neet.
post #338 of 358
Aha!
So instead of flipping blindly through all of your open browser windows you see a listing of the windows to help you? WHAT IF instead of a list of the &lt;TITLE&gt; tag contents you were presented with a graphic representation of the contents of each page?

So, to recap...
What if you could choose between these three options:

1. CMD-tilde simply switches between windows.
2. CMD-tilde switches between windows, with a display of &lt;TITLE&gt; tags in a vertical listing.
3. CMD-tilde switches between windows with a graphical min-rendering of every page's contents to help you pick the page you want.

4. Activate TABS if you want them.


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post #339 of 358
That would be cool, having just the titles to free up some screen space. I'd have to just try them out and see what I like.

Takes up no screen space, and appeases those who are so anti-tab that they go on killing sprees when they see someone who thinks tabs are good.
post #340 of 358
What, no peeps from the TAB-olitionists?

come on guys, where are you now?
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post #341 of 358
This might have been said before, but I don't feel like reading through all 9 pages.

Is it that hard just to it cmd-`? That's a nice no-click solution.
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post #342 of 358
Your laziness renders your suggestion null and void.
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post #343 of 358
[quote]Originally posted by drewprops:
<strong>Your laziness renders your suggestion null and void.
sorry!
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I read three pages.... Some people have things to do.
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post #344 of 358
My excuse is that I have a cold, am noodling around tying to re-do a friend's website and am hoping to be the one whose post falls onto page 10.

An addition to the idea of the translucent multiple navigation window idea: what if you could just point your mouse cursor at the listing or (alternately) the miniaturized window icon of the window you wanted to switch to... instead of CMD-tilde-ing repeatedly?

Make any sense?

EDIT:
Darnit, I had hoped that I'd pushed to the 10th page...no such luck.


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post #345 of 358
This is getting over-argued. I'm sick of it. I'll just let application developers develop their applications, and I'll take what they give me. Sucks to your UI guidelines.
post #346 of 358
Any idea when the next public build of Safari is going to be released?
post #347 of 358
Give me a virtual desktop over tabs any day of the week. I'm using the CodeTek Virtual Desktop and it seems to work, but it would be much, much cooler if the desktop panes were in the dock.

I often have 15+ windows open and doing the Command-~ or Command-Tab is so beyond inefficient it's not even worth a discussion.
post #348 of 358
Whee, let me join the interesting discussion with a completely uninformed position, please.

I haven't read all 9 pages, I've skimmed a bunch, so here goes:

Tabs on the browser are a convenience for going to the windows menu (long mouse movement, not visible until you've gone there) or cmd-~ (uncertain how many you need to get where you're going).

So the purpose of the tab is to see what's available and/or navigate between windows within an application with minimal effort/visual parsing.

With a two button mouse and a scroll wheel, what about right-click+scroll (or something like that) bringing up a context menu with a list of windows within an app, releasing the right button chooses the window?

Or more generally, some way of bringing up a context menu with a list of windows right where the cursor is?

I'm not saying any of this well, but it's all off the cuff.
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post #349 of 358
Whenever you use a multi-button mouse on the Mac all you're doing is automating pressing a key and clicking your mouse. So the key-combination could be something that you assign to the center button (aka. "scroll button") of your third-party scrolling mouse using the utility that came with your mouse (or alternately USB overdrive).

Regardless, it's an interesting option.

But I still like tabs.

Just a few more posts before we hit 10 pages...

or the thread gets locked.

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post #350 of 358
Safari's implementation of Tabs isn't so good, IMO.

I like them in Chimera, because I can choose whether to open a link in a new window, or a new tab. Thus, I can organize pages at two levels.

For example, I would open each forum at AI in it's own window, and then open individual threads in their own tabs. Safari won't let me do this, I have to either use tabs for everything or nothing.

In their current incarnation, I consider Safari's Tabs utterly useless. Instead of adding an extra layer of organization, they replace one method of organization with another. If I have to use only one method, then for sure it would NOT be tabs.

Tabs are only useful under some circumstances, and Safari simply doesn't allow for this. I can only hope that tabs aren't really finished yet, and they will work like they do in Chimera when done.

BTW, nice waste of 9 pages to shout back and forth over whether tabs are any good or not. It's like arguing about ice cream flavor....what works for me doesn't always work for others. At least they're an option--don't like 'em, don't use 'em, and don't bitch.
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[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:
<strong>Safari's implementation of Tabs isn't so good, IMO.

...Safari won't let me do this, I have to either use tabs for everything or nothing.

In their current incarnation, I consider Safari's Tabs utterly useless. Instead of adding an extra layer of organization, they replace one method of organization with another. If I have to use only one method, then for sure it would NOT be tabs.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Haaaaaaaaaa, maybe this why Eugene and his sidekicks where farting



all over about Tabs. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> :eek: <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

If in Safari you are stuck with only "Tabs" then that is crapola indeed. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />

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[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:
<strong>Safari's implementation of Tabs isn't so good, IMO.

I like them in Chimera, because I can choose whether to open a link in a new window, or a new tab. Thus, I can organize pages at two levels.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

In Safari command click opens in a new tab, option-command click opens in a new window. If you use the contextual menu you can choose either a window or a tab and under the file menu you can choose a window or a tab. So it's really not as limiting as you make it sound.

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post #353 of 358
EDIT: nevermind

[ 03-04-2003: Message edited by: Luca Rescigno ]

2nd EDIT: after editing this message, I was taken back to page 9 of the discussion and it showed the standard page except there were no posts that appeared. Just the headers, a gray bar, and footers. Then I reloaded and it came back, but for a while I was like, "sweet, I just killed the tab thread!"

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I thought that I had killed this thread all by myself too. In fact, this thread has bumped my post count by about 100. Unless something truly interesting happens here I'm swearing off this thread because it's making me look like Eman!! (no offense Eman)
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[quote]Originally posted by drewprops:
<strong>I thought that I had killed this thread all by myself too. In fact, this thread has bumped my post count by about 100. Unless something truly interesting happens here I'm swearing off this thread because it's making me look like Eman!! (no offense Eman)</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Yea, this thread is tabbed out. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

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post #356 of 358
OMG! Ten pages of utter lunacy!



Maybe it's about time for a lock-down. I mean, at this point, people are just kinda sitting around chatting about nothing.

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post #357 of 358
So when can I download a newer version of Safari? Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie...
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[quote]Originally posted by Endymion:
<strong>

In Safari command click opens in a new tab, option-command click opens in a new window. If you use the contextual menu you can choose either a window or a tab and under the file menu you can choose a window or a tab. So it's really not as limiting as you make it sound.

[ 03-04-2003: Message edited by: Endymion ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks! Don't know how I overlooked the option-command-click, I thought I'd tried every combo.


Now I really dig the TAB function! Don't know how I overlooked the option-command-click, I thought I'd tried every combo.

Eh, so why 9 pages of bickering? If you dig 'em, use 'em. If not, keep them off.
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