Apple to offer early iPhone adopters $100 credit - Jobs - Page 5

Originally Posted by TBaggins

I understand your concern, but I don't think its really a problem.

Apple has a history of usually not price dropping quickly anyway (I'm sure Mel or someone could nitpick the exceptions, but by and large its true). The iPhone was an exception due to the iTouch being introduced, and the need for Apple to have it not cannibalize their iPhone business. Which it would've, had Apple left the old iPhone price points intact.

Notice that the iPhone price drop and the iTouch introduction happened on the same day? Not an accident.

Take that away, and we're back to business as usual, i.e. Apple not being quick to price drop. I don't think the complainers are going to impact that one way or the other, as that's just solid business stratgegy far as Apple is concerned.

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Originally Posted by onceuponamac

I'd call it a debate. Interesting to me - I thought i was being supportive of those that were upset - apparently, I have been being a devils advocate. I'm still surprised by the strong views expressed by three or four of you that upon the price drop there was little (or I guess your comments mean you think there is NO) basis for a claim - I disagree. Unfortunately, given today's open letter, we'll probably never know for sure - because as you saw on these boards, many were satisfied with the $100 olive branch. I will be excited to see the terms of the credit.

Originally Posted by onceuponamac

Riiiiggghhhttt..... (not)

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Well in any event its over now so we can move back to bitching about the lack of a mid range midtower...LOL

Originally Posted by onceuponamac

I'd call it a debate. Interesting to me - I thought i was being supportive of those that were upset - apparently, I have been being a devils advocate. I'm still surprised by the strong views expressed by three or four of you that upon the price drop there was little (or I guess your comments mean you think there is NO) basis for a claim - I disagree. Unfortunately, given today's open letter, we'll probably never know for sure - because as you saw on these boards, many were satisfied with the $100 olive branch. I will be excited to see the terms of the credit.

Originally Posted by rrightm

You are nobody's advocate, devil or otherwise. The problem is that throughout the course of the day, you have convinced yourself more and more of your own b.s. Yes, I have told you before...there is NO basis for the claim(s) you have described (on this thread and the earlier one). Get over it.

As for "we'll never know for sure...," since you are such a big believer in your claim, file it. Then, you'll know, for sure...that you were wrong. And Apple will spank you with a bill for their attorneys' fees.

If you are in law school, as some others have joked, drop out. You are wasting your money. You will need it, since $200 is such a big deal.

Originally Posted by onceuponamac

You need more coffee - or something. We'll always disagree (apparently) on the validity of the ability to make a claim - I don't need to make a claim against Apple or ATT to know the strength of my position, I have much experience to know it.

Originally Posted by onceuponamac

You need more coffee - or something. We'll always disagree (apparently) on the validity of the ability to make a claim - I don't need to make a claim against Apple or ATT to know the strength of my position, I have much experience to know it.

Originally Posted by murphyweb

All the people moaning on this site are nothing but pathetic, hypocritical, greedy, whining, liars. Reading the comments on this issue has sometimes made me laugh and sometimes made me sick with embarrassment to be a mac owner.

I have always thought the iPhone was not a great phone and even at $399 i still not not think it is, but you lot loved it!! you came on this forum day after day telling everything how fantastic it was, how it was the best phone in the world, how it changes the whole fabric of society etc.. If anyone has even dared suggest it was not worth $599 then you would have shouted them down so quick, you all thought it was well worth the $599. But because someone else can buy it for $399 your phone was suddenly not worth $599??? You are either stupid or you are liars, which one?

So another thing that is often to be found on this site is the people who take great delight in the financial status at Apple, be it the share price or the amount of profit Apple has made. Some of you are actually investors and have a real interest in the Apple share price, others have a weird love interest with the makes of your laptop and even though you do not gain financially yourself you still masturbate to every extra percent that Apple is worth.

Bur now Apple have agreed to take a hit and rebate $100 to you all, i am unsure how much this is worth in real dollar value, Apple make 17% Profit from all their business, $100 must make up the majority of the profit from iPhone but of course they get another sale out of it so it is hard, but $50 million may not be off the mark? Anyway the point is this comes of Apples bottom line!! this affects the share price and this affects Steve Jobs pension, what happened to your love and desire for all things Apple?? How quickly you greedy little bastards turn!!

Make up your minds people, what do you want? Do you want to come on this forum and argue with me that your iPhone is wonderful and worth every penny, that your are sexually aroused by Apples bottom line and high gross margins? Or do you want to come back down to earth with a bump and realise that Apple is just another manufacturer of Far East assembled electronics whos biggest goal is to make as much money as possible and who does not really give a crap about you - unless of course they are in danger of getting bad publicity.

I would like to think that this experience will be a turning point for some of you, but i am 100% sure you will all be back in a few weeks with a copy of Leopard in one hand and a box of tissues in the other!!

Originally Posted by potterhead4

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To people who think Apple should have acted proactively to avoid whining or "do the right thing" or whatever: No. Do it proactively and they're admitting that they got pricing wrong the first time and willingly screwed their customers. Doing it this way makes it a very generous but unnecessary gift from the nicest big company in the world. "Sorry, we screwed you but we're going to offer you $100 less than you deserve" becomes "We didn't screw you, we owe you nothing but we're going to give you $100 anyways because we love you and want you to buy more of our beautiful products."

Originally Posted by TBaggins

Definitely the best argument I've read on this point. And no overt personal attacks involved either. Kudos to you.

Yeah, I think you do have a point. While it would've been nice if Apple had done the credit right out of the starting gate, that then would've opened them up to a "It should be a $200 credit! Or cash!" type backlash.

Basically, it was a negotiation, and Apple came in stronger by starting at zero.

The $100 credit will cost them maybe $75 a head in real terms, and totally knocks the stuffing out of the complainer crowd... even though it comes nowhere near the actual $200 amount that they were originally complaining about.

Very sound strategically by Steve.

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Originally Posted by melgross

An article from MacWorld today:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/09...veyu/index.php

Originally Posted by melgross

I agree with that as well.

Originally Posted by anantksundaram

7) I think that the early buyers who stuck their necks out and complained took their lumps in the form of major abuse in the last 24 hours in forums like these, that's for sure.

But I am afraid that now the shoe is on the other foot. Those of you who were busy name-calling yesterday ("whiners," "bitches," patsies," "crybabies," etc. etc...... I could go on with the epithets) need to now swallow hard, and move on, like mature adults.

Originally Posted by anantksundaram

A few random thoughts:

7) I think that the early buyers who stuck their necks out and complained took their lumps in the form of major abuse in the last 24 hours in forums like these, that's for sure. But I am afraid that now the shoe is on the other foot. Those of you who were busy name-calling yesterday ("whiners," "bitches," patsies," "crybabies," etc. etc...... I could go on with the epithets) need to now swallow hard, and move on, like mature adults.

Originally Posted by melgross

I agree with that as well.

Originally Posted by TBaggins

Well, either that, or they could claim that "nobody won" (lol), and/or continue hurling "whiner" insults, as many are still doing.

The horse has left the barn, people. Just let it go, and move on.



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Originally Posted by anantksundaram

I think that the early buyers who stuck their necks out and complained took their lumps in the form of major abuse in the last 24 hours in forums like these, that's for sure. But I am afraid that now the shoe is on the other foot. Those of you who were busy name-calling yesterday ("whiners," "bitches," patsies," "crybabies," etc. etc...... I could go on with the epithets) need to now swallow hard, and move on, like mature adults.

Originally Posted by steviet02

Swallow hard and move on? Like you did yesterday when you were begging for ringtones cause of the price reduction? Good one ana, and BTW you were bitching.

Originally Posted by steviet02

Yeah, cause we all saw how the real fanboys stand up to fight Apple, they take to the message boards complaining instead of thinking before they purchase.

Originally Posted by murphyweb

Are you delirious? You think just because Apple were forced into throwing a bone to all the crybabies that somehow that makes them right? Its like a tired mother giving in to a child who is throwing a tantrum, it does not meant the child was right all along it just means the mother cannot be arsed hearing the screaming anymore.

I cannot see how you think for a minute that this decision by Apple is a vindication of your actions? Crazy. And as for the "Move on like mature adults" line, OH MY GOD, is that not what everyone was telling you to do yesterday?

The shoe is not on the other foot you fool, you all still look as greedy and stupid as you did yesterday.

Originally Posted by steviet02

Yeah, cause we all saw how the real fanboys stand up to fight Apple, they take to the message boards complaining instead of thinking before they purchase.

Originally Posted by onceuponamac

this isn't from the goodness of apple's heart - they obviously got advice from their counsel that they were at risk for a claim - - -

Originally Posted by onceuponamac

I think you're wrong - for reasons I've posted in other threads - i think the likihood of valid claims was high - i'm sure the class action attorneys are disappointed because at a minimum a likely settlment was just cut in half...

Originally Posted by extremeskater

A true give back would have been in the form of 100.00 rebate checks.

Originally Posted by anantksundaram

Thanks for proving my point.

(Hope your mom knows you're online screaming.)

Originally Posted by onceuponamac

this isn't from the goodness of apple's heart - they obviously got advice from their counsel that they were at risk for a claim - - -

Originally Posted by onceuponamac

I think you're wrong - for reasons I've posted in other threads - i think the likihood of valid claims was high - i'm sure the class action attorneys are disappointed because at a minimum a likely settlment was just cut in half...