Originally Posted by TenoBell
If I'm citing 802.11n as a precedent, why would you assume I think Apple is going to magically make one technology act like another with a simple firmware update?
Because that's what you SAID, back then.
You kept saying that it would be like the 802.11n situation, that Apple might be able to update the iPhone to 3G via a software update, just like it did with the notebook 802.11n upgrade. However, that was impossible, for technical reasons, which you were told repeatedly, and ignored. Not even sure what you're trying to argue here anymore, frankly.
Apple can only reach one milestone at a time. It wasn't only marketing, the iPhone sold because it works as Apple described it would work.
The launch sales were marketing and/or a leap of faith, largely, as the iPhone would have no real track record at that point. The majority of sales since then being due to the iPhone being pretty good? Sure. That's kind of my point. Sales momentum won't be maintained through hype, but through functional excellence. So you need 3G, increased storage capacities, GPS, voice calling, MMS, etc.
The people on Wall Street are only reacting, they don't know what's going to be successful. If anything they are behind the curve.
If that's true, then I guess we have to dismiss the very high iPhone sales projections iSuppli and a couple of others have made as well.
There is no reason for Steve to say that, because they met their publicly stated sales goal.
Publicly stated goals don't mean much, unless they're fairly ambitious and long-term. Microsoft, for example, had a publicly stated goal to sell 1 million Zunes in the time period from launch 'til June of this year. If they made it (I think they did?), publicly, they'll be high-fiving each other. But privately, they know they didn't do that well. It was just a PR game for public consumption.
It's not exactly the same situation here... actually, I think 1 million iPhones sold is pretty good, it's a much more expensive device than the Zune. But are sales, disregarding the much-hyped launch weekend, really where Apple wants them to be? I'm not sure. 1 million sure sounds
like a lot. But half of that is launch weekend. And the world cell phone market is 1 billion
units a year.
The iPhone outsold Palm's entire line, which does have 3G.
Do you mean Blackberry's entire line, which is what iSuppli was saying originally? They later re-stated that, and said that Blackberry's line actually outsold the iPhone 2-to-1:http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...e_in_sept.html
Still not a bad result for the iPhone though. Even if you did mean Palm, I would try to measure against Blackberry, as they seem to be the real competition in the US smartphone market right now.... Palm is kinda fading.
And no, Palm's entire line does not have 3G... the Treo 680, for example, is EDGE.