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Here's the current Leopard UI:




Here's a draft suggestion I made up:




Macs went translucent, (translucent) Aqua arrived. Macs go metal, Aqua gets replaced by metal. Ok, so my mock-up may not be perfect, but the point is I really think Apple needs to finish off what they started, and I think this is the general direction they need to go. Highlight blue when clicked is out, push-in when clicked is in. It's about functionality and consistency.

I personally love the push-aspect to the metal buttons present in some parts of OS X & iTunes, much better UI design then Aqua in my opinion. It's like popping bubble-wrap, the metal buttons are a pleasure to click, and that's the way it should be for your computer use, a pleasure. Aqua is not only not as fun (anymore), but worse, it's very dated looking now.

Leopard is going to be a great release, it would be a shame to leave all these blue Aqua parts, would seem kind of unfinished to me - like they didn't have enough time to do the last lap - an unchecked box in the Leopard list if you will. The last bit of polish is left in the jar. Enough metaphors for you?

The new menus, contextual included, have no pinstripes, no sharp corners, and have a nice, subtle, rich-blue mouse-highlight gradient in them (different to Tiger). Three changes which convey a nice attention to detail. Why not go the whole way Apple? Why not clean up the aged look that is Aqua - a nice metal look to go along with all those metal iMacs and Cinema Displays perhaps? Clean it all up and give the OS a unified, strong, modern, understated look, that's also a pleasure to interact with.

Frankly I'm in disbelief that Aqua is as it was, at this stage in Leopard's development. I mean how much more time would it take (Waits for impatient screams.. "I want it now, I can't wait any longer", please.) to do it right? It doesn't make sense to take Aqua out of the top of each window, Safari, System Preferences etc., yet leave the rest of it inside that same window, it's like running half a marathon - I mean why even bother if you're not going to finish it? Steve said Leopard is finally going to bring consistency to OS X, well where is it then Steve-O?

I have a sneaking suspicion Apple intends to keep the complete, metal UI overhaul either until the last moment - perhaps reveling it at some sort of pre-release special event? And I hope to God I am right, cause it'd be a shame if it didn't happen. If they aren't going to do that, then I hope they read this. I hope they are aware we Mac users actually care about things like this. Apple is meant to be about attention to detail after all.

I'm saying this cause I like OS X, and I'll be using Leopard everyday. If a friend has egg on their chin you tell them right?
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There is nothing REALLY wrong with level of aqua present in the scrollbar and buttons, IMO. I just really HATE the pinstriped crap and early (10.0-10.2) aqua.
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The whole interface looks unfinished to me.

The itunes look is good, but not great. i like the look in the iLife apps, but again, it isn't anything to shout about like Aqua was. but that's fine. We don't need any cray changes at this point.

i do agree that Aqua does not look like it fits with the platinum look that Apple is giving leopard.

I am thinking that perhaps the rumored announcements may have something to do with leopard and will show previously undisclosed UI changes and a couple of undisclosed features.

It makes sense for the announcement to come the week of launch as Apple has been so secretive until now. That way, they can drum up all the sales excitement in one day as opposed to a year with tiger (I still remember the lines at the Apple store).
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I am thinking that perhaps the rumored announcements may have something to do with leopard and will show previously undisclosed UI changes and a couple of undisclosed features.

It makes sense for the announcement to come the week of launch as Apple has been so secretive until now. That way, they can drum up all the sales excitement in one day as opposed to a year with tiger (I still remember the lines at the Apple store).

I truly hope you're right. I'd be shocked if it wasn't something along those lines. I'm really quite surprised more people aren't shouting about this - it's a big deal. In my case, even a deal breaker. And for those who mention Shapeshifter, I think it's really up to Apple to finished what they started, and not expect some 3rd part to come along a clean up the mess, not to mention you have to buy the app, and do the fiddling yourself, and again on reinstalls.
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Ok, I'm no expert, that blue may not be perfect, but I can't believe Aqua is still present in Leopard. It looks out of place, and frankly, its very existence now at this point is a disgrace.

This your first major update? Sure sounds like it.
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This your first major update? Sure sounds like it.

Good old Walter is back.
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Here's the current Leopard UI:


Here's a draft suggestion I made up in 30 minutes:

Ok, I'm no expert, that blue may not be perfect, but I can't believe Aqua is still present in Leopard. It looks out of place, and frankly, its very existence now at this point is a disgrace.

Nice job. I agree. It looks too much like a "toy". If they want to compete in the business world, they need to make it look nice.
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post #9 of 139
I agree with Ireland. The UI needs to be consistent.
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post #10 of 139
The Aqua widgets really don't bother me, and they are far more evident to the user. That said, if Apple changed them, I wouldn't mind. The problem with having grey buttons on a grey window is lack of contrast/obviousness.
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If people start to think about 'problems' like these, nothing's really wrong...
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If people start to think about 'problems' like these, nothing's really wrong...

That's no excuse not to fix it. After all, Steve was the one who promised consistency. Personally I think it's important.

Maybe they are waiting on the new 'metal' MacBooks to kill Aqua, who knows? Aqua served Apple well, but its day has passed.
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If people start to think about 'problems' like these, nothing's really wrong...

Something is wrong, as the UI happens to be one of the most important parts of OS X and Steve Jobs took the time to make it clear that a unified UI was going to be part of Leopard.

I'd like to see that come about, as it has been one of the most annoying things about OS X for me. They've got a good thing going with the iTunes interface, now it's time to migrate that to the rest of OS X.

Non-conformist UIs are OK with third party software, or Apple software that requires it for special purposes (some of Apple's creative apps, for example) but not the OS. It's about as simple of a fix as one could imagine, and I'd really, really love to see it implemented across the board.

It's like being a famous artist and having a few hundred gallons of paint and a bunch of painters who will work for free, but having them stop after repainting 1/5 of your house. It doesn't make any sense, it looks like crap and makes people think you just don't care that much, while undermining your credibility on aesthetic matters.
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Now THAT's an abstract analogy!
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

I truly hope you're right. I'd be shocked if it wasn't something along those lines. I'm really quite surprised more people aren't shouting about this - it's a big deal. In my case, even a deal breaker. And for those who mention Shapeshifter, I think it's really up to Apple to finished what they started, and not expect some 3rd part to come along a clean up the mess, not to mention you have to buy the app, and do the fiddling yourself, and again on reinstalls.

I could not agree more here. This is a job for Apple. But I think the iPhone effect is here and it shows. Apple has too many fronts open. And while we are at it, anyone knows what was the Apple development personnel e.g in the Panther release and what is now?

Hoping for a last minute surprise.
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That's no excuse not to fix it. After all, Steve was the one who promised consistency.

Hmm, he also promised something about Mac games and guess what we got with the new iMacs. If there is anything to learn from him the last 4-5 years, is to not take his word literally.
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I'm a switcher and I love my imac. While I respect your opinion but to me it seems like such a minor thing. XP is full of color if you want it and grey or blue or any color you want. But I'll take any color or lack of color or even inconsistency, as long as my mac continues to operate for three to four hours without telling me I have committed some illegal operation, or that tiger has developed a problem and has to close, smack in the middle of a project .

I'll give up playing games (and I am such a kid at heart) as long as I can update my apps without one them telling me that I have a counterfeit copy of the OS, that came with my machine and all I can find is admonitions that I must have bought it from an unscrupulous dealer (didn't know dell was that unscrupulous. I also wonder how I could create over 200 web pages on a trial copy of FrontPage.

I don't care what color the buttons are, as long as they work, I don't care if the mouse that ships only has one button, I don't care if each computer costs more than 1000.00. All I know is that I don't have to spend hours each week running virus scans, and three spyware and adware scanners and cleaners, my programs work, I don't have to regularly clean my registry, My kids can't kill my computer by downloading really bad things from miniclip, and when I hit submit, this post won't disappear into never never land.

Want problems, come see me, I have 9 PC's and a Bridge in Brookland I can sell you. Just stay away from my Macs
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I'm a switcher and I love my imac. While I respect your opinion but to me it seems like such a minor thing.

One of the reasons for the success of the Mac is the user base that is vocal about getting things right. We don't fit into the category of people who can put up with Windows Vista and keep quiet about it. Apple survives because it tends to keep an eye out for what the users want and understands the significance of the user experience.
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Why do you like starting duplicate threads? Especially ones where you essentially steal someone else's mockup?

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...27&postcount=4

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This is a very rough mock-up, but I think something along these lines would be nice...

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Hmm, he also promised something about Mac games and guess what we got with the new iMacs. If there is anything to learn from him the last 4-5 years, is to not take his word literally.

I'm not being naive, but I wont deny being pissed off when he promises something as trivial as window consistency when it comes to something as major as an OS release. He doesn't have control of the game industry. OS inconsistencies are his thing.
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Why do you like starting duplicate threads? Especially ones where you essentially steal someone else's mockup?

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...27&postcount=4

Excuse me? I have been talking about the mock-up for weeks, and I said I was going to use all elements from iTunes, which I did. He showed me his mock-up and I merely said; "no, more along these lines". The mock-ups are different, it doesn't take a genius to work that out. I'd be happy if someone took my version and said; "how about this?", and did something different.

His:


Mine:


We don't need to get petty about this, we're in together after all. I'm not try to make claim to anything - I'm trying publicize the issue, that's all.
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He doesn't have control of the game industry.

No, he does not, but when the top graphics of the new line are in many respects inferior to the top graphics of the previous generation, to the point that Apple does not even posts game benchmarks anymore in the iMac page, why game developers should take him seriously?

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OS inconsistencies are his thing.

So it seems.
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Excuse me? How are you say I stole that mock-up.

One, you've started threads with mockups done by others with no attribution before. You never claimed them as your own but...well...there's a certain implication when there's no attribution. This time at least you pshopped your own.
Two, you started a new thread despite having started nearly the exact same thread that happened to have have his mock up was first in the thread history and your's second.
Three, he's the one that mentioned iTunes scroll bar and checkboxes FIRST in that thread and you answered "I see where you're going"...

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I don't hate the aqua, but a change to something along the lines of the iTunes scroll bars and checkboxes that matched the new folder colors or something would be nice seeing how so much else has been revamped. I have a feeling that they'll be staying, though.

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Yeah I see where you're going here. Here's some different screenshot I took, all in iTunes.

1st, iTunes non-Aqua scroll-bar,
2nd, iTunes account page button (which I have always loved by the way),
3rd, iTunes equalizer slider,
4th, iTunes equalizer slider (moused):

...

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I have been talking about the mock-up for weeks, and I said I was going to use all elements from iTunes, which I did. He showed me his mock-up and I merely said; "no, more along these lines". The mock-ups are different, it doesn't take a genius to work that out. I'd be happy if someone took my version and said; "how about this?", and did something different.

The thread history in that other thread suggests differently.

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We don't need to get petty about this, we're in together after all. I'm not try to make claim to anything - I'm trying publicize the issue, that's all.

Fine. Then a quick attribution and link to the previous thread is no big deal right? Why not Digg the other thread anyway?

He (detail) probably doesn't care since the idea of Apple moving to the iLife look has been bandied about before and I wouldn't have bothered to comment except this ain't the first time you've spawned a new thread for no particularly good reason and "petty" is exactly what I consider trying to pawn off others ideas as your own for a Digg egoboo.

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The thread history in that other thread suggests differently.

It's not the first time I have said that, by any means at all. As I said I used Apple's own buttons to make the mock-up. These's buttons are already present in iTunes.
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Why not Digg the other thread anyway?

Not a sneaky move at all, Flickr's stuff tends to get more diggs, and I want Apple to here us (Mac users).
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There are some elements in Aqua that make it worthwhile to me, but considering I'm on Jaguar, all I can see is pinstripes!

I hate pinstripes, I hate brushed metal. Unified looks great to me. Not a fan of the dull new finder buttons. They should use the ones they had in Finder (Tiger), the glosy ones. (or Safari.)

But yes, scrollbars must be eliminated, I could do without the traffic lights too.
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I could not agree more here. This is a job for Apple. But I think the iPhone effect is here and it shows. Apple has too many fronts open. And while we are at it, anyone knows what was the Apple development personnel e.g in the Panther release and what is now?

Hoping for a last minute surprise.

I agree. And the level of design and polish given to the iPhone is conspicuously missing from Leopard, which resembles a warmed over Tiger, but given the iTunes look which is decent but not all that.

We should all be hoping that Apple has something worthy of a new OS GUI theme in place ready to be revealed at the end of the month.

Ireland is right, the aqua mixed with platinum looks sloppy, unifinished, and inexcuseable. I appreciate this thread and what it is trying to do.

With Microsoft, you can expect this sort of thing, but this is Apple! They are supposed to be king of this stuff. Not, "Oh well, it doesn't really matter in the long run." Yes it does! and they need to do better.
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There are some elements in Aqua that make it worthwhile to me, but considering I'm on Jaguar, all I can see is pinstripes!

I hate pinstripes, I hate brushed metal. Unified looks great to me. Not a fan of the dull new finder buttons. They should use the ones they had in Finder (Tiger), the glosy ones. (or Safari.)

But yes, scrollbars must be eliminated, I could do without the traffic lights too.

I agree. Aqua looks great. and the glossy aspect is what really gives it some pop. The itunes look is decent, but it can almost be seen as a backward step. Sure, it looks more mature, but not necessarily better. Apple can do better and they should. There should be some aspects that are glossy in leopard that are in keeping with the new theme, but not simply the old buttons and scrollbars. I also like how the button you are supposed to press pulses waiting for your input. Aqua is full on the real deal. Since Apple is replacing it, they need to do much better.


Here's hoping they are just holding off on showing the goods (to keep MS from aping them too early) and that they show off a truly worthy theme closer to launch.
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Ireland is right, the aqua mixed with platinum looks sloppy, unifinished, and inexcuseable. I appreciate this thread and what it is trying to do.

With Microsoft, you can expect this sort of thing, but this is Apple! They are supposed to be king of this stuff. Not, "Oh well, it doesn't really matter in the long run." Yes it does! and they need to do better.

At least someone is awake here. Thank you!
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Woud you mind photoshopping (or gimping, etc.) the Tiger Finder buttons in? (The back, forward and show all buttons.) I believe those should remain in the system and I am curious how it would look with your current edit.

I'd do it myself, but I don't have 10.4
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I agree. Aqua looks great. and the glossy aspect is what really gives it some pop. The itunes look is decent, but it can almost be seen as a backward step. Sure, it looks more mature, but not necessarily better. Apple can do better and they should. There should be some aspects that are glossy in leopard that are in keeping with the new theme, but not simply the old buttons and scrollbars. I also like how the button you are supposed to press pulses waiting for your input. Aqua is full on the real deal. Since Apple is replacing it, they need to do much better.

Here's hoping they are just holding off on showing the goods (to keep MS from aping them too early) and that they show off a truly worthy theme closer to launch.

While I agree a mixed interface (aqua + platinum) is bad I do agree with 9secondko that Aqua still looks good. Of course it is plastered all over Vista now so a replacement is needed.

iTunes is a bit subdued which is fine from a usability perspective but a little more eyecandy, not in the form of translucency or the mirror effect, would be nice. Aqua was a nice mix of eyecandy and notification that a graphical object was meant for user interaction. Bare icons doesn't quite offer the same affordance although I don't recall those in Apple as much as in MS products.

Of course, this same discussion is still ongoing in that other thread too.
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Leopard finalized and released to manufacturing.

Oh boy.

Let's hope that some as of yet undisclosed user interface polish has secretly been put into the OS.

The edition that is available to developers needs work.

(Although it would seem logical that what we have seen is what we will get <sigh> as Apple has put resources already into their website with the video spotlights on the Leopard UI and apps.)

I just hope that this being Apple, they have a pleasant surprise or two to show.
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Leopard finalized and released to manufacturing.

Oh boy.

Let's hope that some as of yet undisclosed user interface polish has secretly been put into the OS.

The edition that is available to developers needs work.

(Although it would seem logical that what we have seen is what we will get <sigh> as Apple has put resources already into their website with the video spotlights on the Leopard UI and apps.)

I just hope that this being Apple, they have a pleasant surprise or two to show.


Well, it looks like Aqua remains. In th enew leopard pages, they show aqua scrollbars (Why? they have half their ilife apps using new scrololbars and the rest using aqua.

Oh well, It still looks like a worthy upgrade, but Apple is faltering in the UI consistency arena.
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Apple is faltering in the UI consistency arena.

This is nothing new. Get used to it, your blood pressure will be lower. They like to experiment too much to deliver a completely consistent interface...or at least it seems that way.
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..or at least it seems that way.

Therein lies the problem.
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ShapeShifter

If you're going to start whining about inconsequentia, at least do your homework first. In addition to ShapeShifter, there are shit-tons of other, smaller UI tweaks. It took me approximately 84 seconds to find them on google.
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ShapeShifter

If you're going to start whining about inconsequentia, at least do your homework first. In addition to ShapeShifter, there are shit-tons of other, smaller UI tweaks. It took me approximately 84 seconds to find them on google.

Sorry, it is not about doing your homework or not. It is about Apple delivering consistent UI. This is Apple's job, not haxies' job.
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Sorry, it is not about doing your homework or not. It is about Apple delivering consistent UI. This is Apple's job, not haxies' job.

If it's such a problem, then don't buy a mac, or at least write Apple a letter about it. I think we've found out from this thread that very few people actually care at all, and that certainly no one cares enough to do anything about it.

Furthermore, Apple's job is to sell computers and high tech items. "Delivering a consistent UI" is of absolutely no importance unless it affects their ability to sell computers and high tech items. Since the complaints here bemoan details which are "in the noise," it's almost certain that the financial impact of these GUI travesties is also "in the noise."
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If it's such a problem, then don't buy a mac, or at least write Apple a letter about it.

Absolutely.

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I think we've found out from this thread that very few people actually care at all, and that certainly no one cares enough to do anything about it.

I cannot disagree, if in these boards you have this interest, then that pretty safely means zero interest out there.

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Furthermore, Apple's job is to sell computers and high tech items. "Delivering a consistent UI" is of absolutely no importance unless it affects their ability to sell computers and high tech items.

Fortunately or unfortunately this is true, but it should not be an excuse for Apple. I wonder though why they left the Aqua elements there while a replacement should be trivial from a programmatic point of view.
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I wonder though why they left the Aqua elements there while a replacement should be trivial from a programmatic point of view.

So does everyone who cares.
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