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post #41 of 111
- Option to minimize every open window to the dock for quick access to the entire desktop

- Grey list backgrounds separated with white lines (it's easier on the eyes)

- On the dock, application name should be above the window's title when mousing over minimized windows

- Maxmize button should never, ever put the bottom edge of a window behind the dock

- Aqua buttons should be a little flatter looking, not complete gelcaps

- Put the ... of long file names at the end of the filename, not the middle
post #42 of 111
Did someone mention labels yet?

How about fixing all the GUI bugs. That would make me happy.
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post #43 of 111
Some may say this isn't very "Mac-like" but I'd like to see a way to make windows zoom to full screen. Perhaps an Alt-click of the zoom button. It would replace the menu bar with the title bar of the zoomed window (conveniently the same shape) and it would auto-hide the dock. Clicking the zoom button again would return the window to it's previous state. I'd like to see a web browser do this.

[ 11-17-2001: Message edited by: Bothan ]</p>
post #44 of 111
ÂÂ*Give the user the OPTION of having a classic-style Apple menu.

ÂÂ*Give the user the OPTION to turn the dock off.

 Give the user the OPTION of putting the trash on the desktop.

 Speed up the Finder even more, make it more responsive, and have it refresh contents quicker.

 Bring back encryption

 Speed up classic startup

 Allow the user to change system font sizes/font.
post #45 of 111
I doubt there will be a way to turn the dock off, And the Classic menu will probably be up to 3rd part developers.
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post #46 of 111
Multiple Desktops!!! With a Dock per desktop implementation.

Tear-Off menus would be good. This was a great feature of NEXTSTEP.

Spring-loaded folders

Bring soft-updates to HFS+, and take advantage of its extensible attributes as well as its database like structure. Labels were one implementation, bring them back, but much more powerful than ever before.

Major overhaul to Sherlock. File searches should be instant, as in BeOS. Indexing on the fly. Sherlock in OSX is IMHO an insult to the idea behind it in Copland

Make the Finder more responsive. Thread it more, whatever, but fix the spinning cursor.

Allow log outs that don't quit your apps, ala WinXP

Allow seperate restarts of system components, such as networking, Quartz etc.
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post #47 of 111
[quote]Originally posted by Bothan:
<strong>Some may say this isn't very "Mac-like" but I'd like to see a way to make windows zoom to full screen.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, that's been available in Mac OS 8.x-9.x, maybe even earlier than that. If an app was written correctly, option-clicking the maximize button filled the screen. It even worked in the old Finder. Sadly, a lot of OS X apps no longer have this behavior. In OmniWeb, you can shift-click the max button to fill the screen.
post #48 of 111
I would like to see something (Apple or 3rd Party) that allows a user to duplicate the dock and put another copy somewhere else. Most of you are thinking "WTF?", but it would be incredibly useful for those of us with 2 or more large monitors.

I keep my dock on the right side of my right monitor, and it's a long way to go from the left monitor (where my web browser and FTP stuff resides) to the dock. I would like another dock on the left side of my left monitor that mirrored the other.

Maybe I'm way out there, but it seems useful.

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post #49 of 111
Faster overall (10.1 is great but we all know it can be faster)
Faster and Smarter finder
When toolbar icons, other than Home, are pressed only show that folder in column view.
When you press the clock icon (if you use that) have the clock.app appear in place of the menu.
post #50 of 111
I would like

OPTION to turn off Transparency
OTTION to turn off Shadows
OPTION to turn off the dock, which invokes windowshade.
OPTION to have a hotkey to kill/show dock and dock the dock into the right hand of the menubar

OPTION to add Applications to the Applemenu
OPTION to Have an updated Classic theme
OPTION to have trash on the desktop

Spring loaded folder, tabbed windows, etc.

Basically give me OS9 in the Unix framework.
post #51 of 111
Believe it or not, but the find within a find is the most compelling feature of XP for me. They should definately impliment this is Sherlock.

Also, as far as loging into different users

- Users should be able to have EVERYTHING different, this includes icon sizes, and ALL preferences including application prefs, XP does this X should too!!!
- XPs ablitity to login to multiple users at the same time is actually a useful feature, Apple should follow suit
- Faster login to account

Dont know if this got fixed in 10.1, but Sherlock and System Prefs should quit when their windows are closed. Sherlock did in 9 but not it X.(I wrote Apple about this)

And of course faster is always nicer
post #52 of 111
- The multi-user log in that were previously mentionned (ala XP)
- Ability to log out saving the state. Next time you log in (even after a shutdown) all apps would be back to how they were.
- Windowshade when double-clicking is sooo needed.
- Commanb-tab should not cycle in order from left to right in the dock!!! It really should go from topmost to bottom-most window (after all, they are all stacked so the OS does know the order they are in for drawing). I'm thinking something like liteswitch for classic MacOS but at the window level rather than simply the "application level". (Of course, this could be set via a preference...)
- Window views, screen-resolution, sound, icon-positions, etc. should all be stored per-user.
- Defaults for non-admin users needs tweaking. Such things as software update for example, should be set to never update by default. Annoying for other users to have to dismiss software update telling them there is new software (since they don't have the admin password anyway to install it). Also annoying to have to go set this each time you set up an account on the machine.
- The "dock appears on more than one side" idea is a great one. Expecially for multiple monitors.
- Windows should be draggable from any side.
- More than one resize box. I actually like how I can resize a window from any edge in Windows.
post #53 of 111
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Ability to put Trash on the desktop
Spring loaded folders
Adding the "cut" ability to that of being able to "copy" files via keyboard commands in the finder
Adjustable icon sizes in the finder toolbar
Cursor change on window edges that allows you to resize a window from any edge (a la Windows)
No more dumb Application menus (I doubt this would happen, but I just don't like them).
More games (dinky stuff, like Solitaire, maybe Pac Man or something--Apple's got connections, they could license something fun. and when are Carbon versions of Nanosaur and that bug game coming? those were kinda cool!)
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post #54 of 111
1- Put an option in the System Preferences to give the user more configurations options. New options would be like my #2, 3 and 4. This would be a great feature to get Linux users coming on Macintosh and allow advanced user not to get stuck on restrictions.

2- There should be an option in the Login screen to restart on os 9 WITHOUT having to log on a user. A admin name and password would need to be entered.

3- Have the possibility of having 2 rows of file browsing on the same windows on the Finder's browser when in Columns mode. This would make file copying, moving or drag'n'drop (ie with Stuffit expander) much easyer.

4- To be able of using Root commands when logged with a admin account while providing the super-user's password like in command line using the command "su". This would allow System Administrators to do stuff like deleting file with wrong Privileges set by mistake.

5- Give the option to logged user of locking their station (like in WinBlows NT) even if their screen saver is set not to ask a password. Would be great for educational and comercial market. It can find it's usefulness for personnal use too.

6- Be able to log as root easyer (I never found how to)
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post #55 of 111
[quote]Originally posted by MacWorld:
<strong>6- Be able to log as root easyer (I never found how to)</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now that must be the dumbest request I've seen. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> There is no reason you need to run as root!!! Apple has good reason for having root disabled by default. If you always have root privs, the added security of OSX is worthless.

Here is how you enable root. It's really very simple:

1. open NetInfo Manager.
2. go to menu Domian-&gt;Security-&gt;Authenticate...
3. go to menu Domain-&gt;Security-&gt;Enable Root User

Done.

[ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
post #56 of 111
MacWorld: What is the point of #3? Why do you want multiple windows, in one window? Why can't you just open another window, it would be almost exactly the same besides it being in a different window, and being less confusing.

starfleetX: I've found a few reasons for logging in as root. For example, my mom uses another one of the Macs in the house, and I added a separate user on the machine for myself, so there are two users--her and I, both admins. Once I logged in as myself and moved a file in the root directory of the startup volume (/), and then logged out, and even though she is an admin and it was a pretty much public space which the file was moved into, she couldn't move it. I was too lazy to guess at the password, and I didn't want to tell her anyway, so I told her to log out, and log in as root with her same password (I had enabled root log in via NetInfo Manager long before), and then delete it, which she did. Strange situation, but it was helpful. This seems to be the case, even if you're an admin, that you can't mess with any other users' home directory, even if they are deleted, you have to log in as root, via actually logging in, or su root, to do so.
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post #57 of 111
Agreed on the softupdates, but is it possible to do in HFS+? At the very least, OS X's implementation of UFS needs softupdates and partitioning that doesn't require wiping the whole bloody drive.

Hmm....the Finder needs to have its preview function in a drawer, available to every view. Column view would be much more usable if one didn't have to click on a file, wait for it to slide to the left, and the double click on the file to open it.

Apple needs to give Thursby two middle fingers and implement SMB share browsing in the bloody Finder.

Ditching pax for dpkg, APT, and apt-get would be nice. Imagine, package management that won't blow up your computer.

Encryption features in Mail and in iTools.

Beef Carbon. None of the major players, including Apple themselves, are going to port their apps to Cocoa anytime soon, so give Carbon access to Services. Then Services might actually be a worthwhile feature.

A new theme called Obsidian. Ditch the candy and the stripes and gimmie sexy glossy hard bloody black.

Fix the damnable dial-up bug of doom.

Give Preview some basic image editing features, such as cropping, text entry, optimization, and so on.

Sloppy focus, for god's sake.
post #58 of 111
support for:
  • -Arabic
    -Hebrew
    -Cyrillic

and other languages... both as default fonts as well as OS.

Hopefully for 10.2 or next retail release
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post #59 of 111
1. Spring loaded folders
2. Popup windows
3. Command-N should create a new folder, option-command-N can create a new finder window.
4. USB printer sharing - quickly.
5. Scheduled wakeup and sleep as in OS 9 or better.
6. Option to require password after waking from sleep
7. Column view should behave like Action Files in OS 9.
8. New Dock option - Dock slides down vertically from top right side of screen, names are attached to all icons.
9. Add ability to read VCD disks.
10. Fix the use of Type and Creator codes. Abandon those devil-spawned file extensions.
11. Optionally put the trash on the desktop.

I know some of these are available with shareware programs but they should be available on any Mac I walk up to without my having to install third party software.
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post #60 of 111
[quote]Originally posted by neutrino23:
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3. Command-N should create a new folder, option-command-N can create a new finder window.
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How many times a day do you create a folder versus spawn a new Finder window? I say use the easiest shortcut for the most commonly used actions, i e the latter.

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post #61 of 111
[quote]Originally posted by Pegges:
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How many times a day do you create a folder versus spawn a new Finder window? I say use the easiest shortcut for the most commonly used actions, i e the latter.
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I have never spawned a new Finder window. Ever. However, I agree that "New Window" needs to remain cmd-N, if for no other reason then every other app uses cmd-N to create a new window. Consistency.
post #62 of 111
[quote]Originally posted by Pegges:
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How many times a day do you create a folder versus spawn a new Finder window? I say use the easiest shortcut for the most commonly used actions, i e the latter.

[ 11-25-2001: Message edited by: Pegges ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Only by accident when trying to create a new folder.

Here is my technique for creating new folders:
1. Press cmnd-N
(If I am running OS 9, 8, 7, 6,... then stop here.)
2. Stare dumbly at the screen searching for my new folder.
3. Slap forehead when I realize my error.
4. Close the window
5. Make the new folder with shift-cmnd-N
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post #63 of 111
I agree with being able to cut and paste files in addition to copy files in the finder. This is one of the things I always liked better about Windows. Could Apple also implement it throughout the finder and not just in icon view? I can right click when viewing in icon view but not in columns?

QuickTime crashes like the dickens.
post #64 of 111
Nextstep/OpenStep style menus on the left hand side of the screen - Perfeect for Photoshop and other graphics apps. Also having a doc that is like Linux/Openstep.
post #65 of 111
1) File extensions!! My god, what have you done Apple. Don't get rid of them, but don't rely on them for everything either (feels like I'm using Windows)

2) Logout without closing apps (ala XP). The only thing Windows has ever done right.

3) A dictionary that actually has non-US-English in it (ie British/Australian). Apple - you have customers outside of the US and Japan you know.
post #66 of 111
Get rid of the colored widgets and bring back icons for enlarging, closing the window, minimizing to the dock, AND bring back windowshade. The green, yellow, red, and white buttons are completely unintuitive and very unlike Apple. This is my largest complaint about OSX.

Secondly, make the dock an option. Do this by putting favorites back in the Apple Menu (where it can be seen while in other applications), being able to move the trash back to the desktop, putting the old finder back on the top right corner, and bringing back windowshade.
Apple can call it the Classic Finder or something like that for those who don't like the Dock.

The menus on top could use some tweaking but getting rid of the colored widgets, bringing back windowshade, and making the Dock an option are my three biggest wishes and would make me one happy camper............................................ .............
post #67 of 111
I'd like OS X to install the language kit stuff. As it is, unless you've installed the language script you want via OS 9, they're not there in OS X
post #68 of 111
My pet peeve is the 'graphical' multi-user and file permission system of OSX.

-- We need a simpler/friendlier way than NetInfo to manage groups. A 'groups' panel in System Prefs would be nice.

-- We need authenticated dialogs, like 'Saves' and 'Deletes'. This way, if it says we don't have permission to do something, it will prompt us to authenticate for admin authority

-- the File Info panel needs to have a 'groups' field that can be edited directly or changed via a pull down list of groups

OS 10.1 is 'okay', but the system still has a long way to go before it becomes the greased-lightning GUI that OS9 is. I figure OSX will be ready by rev 10.3, 10.4.
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post #69 of 111
Fonts, windowshading, bringing back 10 year old options, WTF. How about---

1) Fixing the hidden dock bug that onlt brings the dock up about an eighth of an inch when the pointer is moved over it....occurs 1 out of maybe 10 times.

2) Energy Saver....how about some of the old options like the ability to control processor cycling....maybe we could even have three different cycling options to choose from.

3) I for one actually like the dock. It functions as does the windows start bar, which is the only feature I felt the MacOS was lacking compared to windows. I also like the windows minimization. I would suggest (as I have read) that all running apps are grouped together and the active one has a blue arrow under it.

Again though I think OSX is a triumph.
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post #70 of 111
Shade the current application icon in the dock.
That stupid blue triangle is way too small.
post #71 of 111
[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
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Now that must be the dumbest request I've seen. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> There is no reason you need to run as root!!! Apple has good reason for having root disabled by default. If you always have root privs, the added security of OSX is worthless.

Here is how you enable root. It's really very simple:

1. open NetInfo Manager.
2. go to menu Domian-&gt;Security-&gt;Authenticate...
3. go to menu Domain-&gt;Security-&gt;Enable Root User

Done.

[ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

This ranks up with Windows usability. This is the most illogical crap I have ever had to endure. Sure, you dont want to make it easy for joe-shmo to enable root... but who in the right minds would think of NetInfo fer chrissake???

Its these kinds of qwirks that piss me off about OS X.

While in the requets mood: Easier way to move the swap disk.
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post #72 of 111
Spring Loaded Bloody Folders.
And a fix to the problem of installers which require an admin account to run (I think that they then sudo to root) placing things in YOUR trash, which you can then only delete from the command line. Until this is done, I will not replace MacOS 9 on the rest of the family's iMac. I'll always run X when/if I suffer the swings and arrows...
post #73 of 111
Since I had the great limbo of going through 10.03&gt;10.1&gt;SecurityUpdate&gt;InstallerUpdate &gt;10.1.1 for four times and still getting errors, unstable behaviour, hanging apps and the kind, I would VERY much appreciate a means of BACKUP please!

(This OS scrambled my user settings and especially my login settings for the fifth time out of the blue, I won't install again until this gets fixed. What a nerve it takes to be unable to remedy this by writing the correct values to com.apple.preference.login via terminal. Arrrgh! If only I had a backup of ALL PREFERENCES and a mechanism to get them into the correct places! Unix in this respect is a real stone age regression set back.

There is no backup solution yet. I know of no way to get a copy of all those hidden files and .FILE and .ETC and .USR hotchpotch somewhere. A copy from the X side is useless as it omits all invisible and hidden items, and a copy from the classical side omits all hidden directories.

So basically:

-Backup feature please!
-everything mentioned by my fellow AIs above as an option

It's that easy.

BTW. A little more stability and consistency would do no harm.


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post #74 of 111
Automatic desktop refreshing. I dont know if they have that in 10.1, but it wouldbe realllllly nice if you could put something on the desktop and not have to click back to the desktop to see it.
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post #75 of 111
Make the applemenu customizable.
ie) the ability to add applications and folders. "User favourites" or something could be added underneath "recent items"

Command N sprouts a new folder NOT a new window.

The ability to add any folder you want (as well as it's icon) into the finder toolbar.

Column shading in list/column view.

Window information in finder windows. ie) #of files, etc.. like os9 windows.

Theme's, mainly classic. Some apps look better in classic. Ie) excel. Perhaps even the option to choose a seperate theme for each application. (from the application menu?)

Put the application menu back over on the right hand side of the menu bar where it belongs, re-add the ability to select your open applications from the application menu . I hate having "File" as the second menu. "File" always moves slightly whenever you switch into another application.

"Soft classic" mode where the menu bar does not revert to classic styling whenever your using a classic app.

Notepad!

A reworked chooser, one of the BEST features of the mac os. A place where appletalk servers and printers could be selected from the same utility.

Springloaded folders, it'd be neat to be able to spring load them off the side of you screen instead of only from the bottom. That way they wouldn't conflict with the dock if you like the dock on the bottom.


That's shooting pretty high though, I'd be happy if they just moved the application menu and let you put whatever you want in to the finder window toolbars.
post #76 of 111
Originally posted by pioneer:
Make the applemenu customizable.
ie) the ability to add applications and folders. "User favourites" or something could be added underneath "recent items"


Yeah, the Favorites folder at least. I had about four or five things in my old Apple menu, and I mostly used it to access various "favorites" in that folder.

The ability to add any folder you want (as well as it's icon) into the finder toolbar.

I think you can. You mean just drag it up there and let go, yes?

Column shading in list/column view.

YES.

Window information in finder windows. ie) #of files, etc.. like os9 windows.

Do you mean like the status bar in the OS X Finder or something else?

Put the application menu back over on the right hand side of the menu bar where it belongs, re-add the ability to select your open applications from the application menu . I hate having "File" as the second menu. "File" always moves slightly whenever you switch into another application.

I have to say I really really like the sytem they made for OS X. It's just so logical!

A reworked chooser, one of the BEST features of the mac os. A place where appletalk servers and printers could be selected from the same utility.

Oh, God, no! death to the chooser! However, a more intuitive graphic network connection/neighborhood thing would be nice (as opposed to typing in your SMB server manually).

Springloaded folders, it'd be neat to be able to spring load them off the side of you screen instead of only from the bottom. That way they wouldn't conflict with the dock if you like the dock on the bottom.

You're talking about pop-up folders, yes?
post #77 of 111
Again, Energy Saver.


10.1.1's is crap compaired to OS9's.
post #78 of 111
BuonRotto - My god I had no idea you could stick whatever you wanted in the finder toolbars. You're absolutly right it is as simple as that! Don't I feel stupid..

Do you mean like the status bar in the OS X Finder or something else?

Um, yup. that'd be it.. I've only had my pbg4 for about 2 weeks so I'm kinda new at osx. Ya learn something new everyday, or in this case several things.

I have to say I really really like the sytem they made for OS X. It's just so logical!

I can see where your comming from there but I just hate the fact that I have to deal with a shifting menu bar all the time. I'd like FILE, EDIT and VIEW to sit still while switching through apps. I find it distracting. Also I can't tell you the number of times I've clicked on the clock looking for one app or another.

a more intuitive graphic network connection/neighborhood thing would be nice (as opposed to typing in your SMB server manually).

Yeah exactly, just something more inuitive than what they have now. I had to go into help to figure out how to select a networked printer.

You're talking about pop-up folders, yes?

Yeah I guess I got the two confused. I'm not sure what you guys mean by "spring loaded".


A couple of things I forgot..

The option to stick the trash, or at least an alias of it, on the desktop.

The ability to hide apps by option clicking their icon in the dock. The ability to hide ALL by cnrl-option clicking the Finder icon in the dock (or some key sequence).

Multiple desktops would be really cool.

Re-add the control strip or a variation of it.

Put some of the key "little" apps like stickies, notepad, applesysprofiler, keyboard, puzzle .. etc somewhere more accesible than the application folder. This would be solved by making the apple menu customizable.

Now that I know about that staus bar trick, double clicking on the status bar hides/reveals the tool bar.

I don't know how well received this will be but I'd like to see every open window to be in the dock as well a la windows task bar. I find I never remember to minimize my windows and I'm left hunting through layers or using the window menu from within each app. This is annoying as you have to switch into the app your looking for inorder to bring up the proper window menu. I realize you can do this by cntrl-clicking each icon in the dock but I think it'd be better for each open, as well as hidden, window to be in the dock. Shrunken or minimized windows could be half translucent or something.

[ 12-05-2001: Message edited by: pioneer ]</p>
post #79 of 111
For the most part, all of the "quirks" of OS X that we complain about are because of our mental baggage from "Classic Mac OS". After we have adapted to not clicking on the clock for applications (for example), I think that we will find OS X to behave more logically than any previous Mac OSs.

As for your last suggestion Pioneer, I think that would make things very confusing very quickly. I usually have somewhere between 10 and 20 windows open on my system. Some are minimized to the dock, some are visible, and some are hidden.

Sometimes the hidden ones can be a pain to find, but is usually quickly fixed by just clicking on the application icon in the dock (which brings the application's "layer" of windows to the front). Sometimes it is neccessary to option-click the application icon to select the window itself.

If *every* window was shown in the dock, the dock would quickly squish itself into oblivion. Just containing my Applications and a couple browser windows takes the entire bottom of my screen (1280 x 1024) and I still need magnification to see exactly what window I'm clicking on. Magnification of the dock is one solution to the little icons, but I've found that magnifying small icons is disorienting, so I only magnify a little bit. To each his own, I suppose.

All in all, unless you have so many windows open that management is impossible, I don't think that all windows should be displayed in the dock. And if you have that many open, it's time for a dual/triple monitor setup (I have two 17" Apple monitors on my system, works wonderfully).

I would like to hear what others think about this...

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post #80 of 111
[quote]Originally posted by pioneer:
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I have to say I really really like the sytem they made for OS X. It's just so logical!

I can see where your comming from there but I just hate the fact that I have to deal with a shifting menu bar all the time.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You can set the application menu to only display the icon, which of course has a fixed size.

[quote]<strong>Also I can't tell you the number of times I've clicked on the clock looking for one app or another.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah, but you'll grow out of that. There's an important difference between interface flaws and interface features that you aren't accustomed to. Should OS X have the close box on the other side to accomodate new Windows users?

[quote]<strong>I'm not sure what you guys mean by "spring loaded".</strong><hr></blockquote>

Spring loaded folders are so called because they spring open when you hold a file over them for a second or so. They're part of OS 9's drag-and-drop file manipulation that allows you to drill down through nested folders. They all spring shut when you drop the file, too, to reduce clutter.

A nice feature, which I'd like to see adapted for the new Column View (hold a file over a folder, and CV auto-opens the next column to that folder).

[quote]<strong>The option to stick the trash, or at least an alias of it, on the desktop.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I believe there are third-party utilities to do that. I don't understand why people want it, though, since I've always hated having to move a bunch of windows around just to trash something. Also, the old trash wasn't in a fixed place. I had OS 9 tuck it in the upper left hand corner of the desktop once after I told it to Clean Up. That was confusing.

[quote]<strong>Multiple desktops would be really cool.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If done right. I'd look for a third party tool to do that.

[quote]<strong>Re-add the control strip or a variation of it. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Enh. That's just more clutter. The little utility menus take care of some of that functionality, and the Dock handles the rest.

[quote]<strong>Put some of the key "little" apps like stickies, notepad, applesysprofiler, keyboard, puzzle .. etc somewhere more accesible than the application folder. This would be solved by making the apple menu customizable.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's more easily solved by putting the Utilities folder (and/or the Applications folder) in the Dock.


[quote]<strong>I don't know how well received this will be but I'd like to see every open window to be in the dock as well a la windows task bar. I find I never remember to minimize my windows and I'm left hunting through layers or using the window menu from within each app.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Gack! A horrible answer to a small problem. That's the worst aspect of the taskbar, because once you have a lot of windows open it becomes all but worthless. I actually hide the taskbar on my Windows box at work for that reason - it only gets in my way. Get used to minimizing windows.

A more elegant solution, which I've seen others propose, is to have the windows accessible from the Dock menus for each app. That would add functionality without cluttering up the interface at the top level.

[quote]<strong>This is annoying as you have to switch into the app your looking for inorder to bring up the proper window menu. I realize you can do this by cntrl-clicking each icon in the dock</strong><hr></blockquote>

Or just clicking.

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