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So says Rowling herself:

http://www.time.com/time/arts/articl...,00.html?imw=Y

This should help light a new (and completely ineffectual) fire under the crazies who are so scared that Harry Potter is turning their children to witchcraft and Satan.
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witchcraft, satan and cock
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witchcraft, satan and cock

You forgot the "... Oh, my!"
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witchcraft, satan and cock

ALL ONE AND THE SAME!
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damn! i feel sorry for the poor kids... the kinda stuff that they have to put up with nowadays!
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I got to say, that kind of ruined the whole series when i read that, (I read it on CNN earlier today). Not that I'm against gay people, but i guess i would rather not have know that. this should get interesting with the fan fiction though...
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damn! i feel sorry for the poor kids... the kinda stuff that they have to put up with nowadays!

What exactly does this news cause kids to "have to put up with"?
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What exactly does this news cause kids to "have to put up with"?

The premature termination of childhood for starters.

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post #9 of 44
Yeah, why does sexuality need to be a dimension in the Harry Potter series?
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Personally in the past few movies I've fancied a bit of three-way between Ron Weasley, Herm' and Harry... Too much sexual tension going on, it would be good to let it all out.
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Personally in the past few movies I've fancied a bit of three-way between Ron Weasley, Herm' and Harry... Too much sexual tension going on, it would be good to let it all out.

You know, I think I watched that porno....

But why not throw Ginnny in there and work the incest angle too?
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The premature termination of childhood for starters.

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I would have to say in more seriousness, if you feel that homosexual/ bisexual issues "terminates" childhood, then I feel you do not have a grip on the challenges children face today, or have faced for many many years.
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The premature termination of childhood for starters.

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this had to come just when i was thinking that the concluding pages of the final installment was an overkill...
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You know, I think I watched that porno....
But why not throw Ginnny in there and work the incest angle too?

No, Ginny is cute and cool... No incest, please.
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The premature termination of childhood for starters.

First, this detail doesn't even appear in the stories, it's merely part of the author's background and understanding of the character's history.

Second, even if a child did find out about the idea of a gay character, how would that "terminate childhood"? "Childhood" is somehow defined by ignorance of homosexuality, combined with perhaps a vague Disney-fied grasp of heterosexual attraction?

I don't recall ignorance as being my favorite part of childhood. Having parents who weren't great when it came to talking about sex, I do recall embarrassment at not knowing things other kids found out about younger than I did an unpleasant part of childhood.
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First, this detail doesn't even appear in the stories, it's merely part of the author's background and understanding of the character's history.

Second, even if a child did find out about the idea of a gay character, how would that "terminate childhood"? "Childhood" is somehow defined by ignorance of homosexuality, combined with perhaps a vague Disney-fied grasp of heterosexual attraction?

I don't recall ignorance as being my favorite part of childhood. Having parents who weren't great when it came to talking about sex, I do recall embarrassment at not knowing things other kids found out about younger than I did an unpleasant part of childhood.

Exactly! Especially the parents part. Though to be fair it was myself that sought to insulate myself from the real world with very high-falutin' notions of relationships and sexuality. In my early 20s as I "blossomed" it made me much happier and satisfied to learn more about the "truth".

(I'm not gay, for the record, bi-curious perhaps, but I like women of legal age...)

This whole JK Rowling thing will be big though, I wonder if it is a publicity stunt...

Witchcraft, Devil Worship, and now it will turn our kids GAY!!! OMFG!!! Orgies at boarding school, drugs, sex, trancemusik...

Even if this were true, it all was happening long before Harry Potter or Disney was ever conceived.
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Yeah, why does sexuality need to be a dimension in the Harry Potter series?

Ron/Hermione, Harry/Ginny, Hagrid/Maxime, Mr. and Mrs. Weasley... none of that constitutes "sexuality"?
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Yeah, why does sexuality need to be a dimension in the Harry Potter series?

read the last part of the last book...
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Ron/Hermione, Harry/Ginny, Hagrid/Maxime, Mr. and Mrs. Weasley... none of that constitutes "sexuality"?

Harry is hot! He's got to push away all the chicks with a big stick! Ginny, Luna, Choi(spelling?) ... Hermione... (kinda?) ...He's got that brooding angry thing that draws in the girlsz.
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"Childhood" is somehow defined by ignorance of homosexuality,

Um, yeah. I do think most of childhood is characterized by an ignorance of sexuality. That's kind of the growing up part of life, isn't it?
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Um, yeah. I do think most of childhood is characterized by an ignorance of sexuality. That's kind of the growing up part of life, isn't it?

Nope, childhood is viewing sexuality in a certain way. The growing up part is learning more about it (hopefully in good ways??) and experiencing it.
post #22 of 44
I thought Harry Potter was gay. The franchise I mean.

The thing is, gay will never become a meaningless thing as long as people keep identifying it that way when it's being referred to. For example, the article says that a young member of the audience asked if he finds true love and she replied he's gay.

Now if someone young asked about a straight person that same question, she wouldn't have replied he's straight. It's as though gays have to be identified. Why couldn't she have said that he is attracted to some other guy?

BTW, have they started burning the books in Texas yet?
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Um, yeah. I do think most of childhood is characterized by an ignorance of sexuality. That's kind of the growing up part of life, isn't it?

Even if ignorance is typical, is it such a great thing? Do you recall ignorance about sex as being a joyful thing you hated giving up? All of a sudden the (alleged) magic of childhood died upon learning some particular level of detail about sex?

Even the most shielded kids pick up pretty quickly that boys like girls and that as adults they seem to get pretty worked up about this stuff. Pursuit of marriage to idealized princes and princesses gets a lot of play in stories told to the youngest children. Does it really terribly complicate childhood to find out that sometimes boys like boys and girls like girls? Is that really that much harder to digest, and childhood-ending, than learning not everyone likes chocolate ice cream as much as you do, that other kids' parents take them to a different church (or temple, or circle, or none at all) than yours take you to, that the strategy for making it through Level 2 is different from the strategy that gets you through Level 1?
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personal opinion: JKR was pretty unfair to Dumbledore

first she gets him bumped off (may his soul RIP)... then she announces that he was gay all this while...

what next? that he was also a pedophile?
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ajay, while I have no opinion on what you just said, prepare to get flamed by egeryone else
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ajay, while I have no opinion on what you just said, prepare to get flamed by egeryone else

fear not, i topped the Defense Against the Dark Arts classes...
when the imperii start coming in... i'll just use the protego spell!

(i have no issues against gays. i just felt the whole situation was quite funny & was trying to share a laugh out of it)
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fear not, i topped the Defense Against the Dark Arts classes...
when the imperii start coming in... i'll just use the protego spell!

(i have no issues against gays. i just felt the whole situation was quite funny & was trying to share a laugh out of it)

this thread makes me lol.
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this thread makes me lol.

finally someone gets it!
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Even if ignorance is typical, is it such a great thing? Do you recall ignorance about sex as being a joyful thing you hated giving up? All of a sudden the (alleged) magic of childhood died upon learning some particular level of detail about sex?

Even the most shielded kids pick up pretty quickly that boys like girls and that as adults they seem to get pretty worked up about this stuff. Pursuit of marriage to idealized princes and princesses gets a lot of play in stories told to the youngest children. Does it really terribly complicate childhood to find out that sometimes boys like boys and girls like girls? Is that really that much harder to digest, and childhood-ending, than learning not everyone likes chocolate ice cream as much as you do, that other kids' parents take them to a different church (or temple, or circle, or none at all) than yours take you to, that the strategy for making it through Level 2 is different from the strategy that gets you through Level 1?

To each his own. I still don't think that young(pre adolescent) children need or want exposure to homosexuality. Just my opinion.
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To each his own. I still don't think that young(pre adolescent) children need or want exposure to homosexuality. Just my opinion.

And what an incredibly lame opinion it is. Nothing to back it up, no depth to it, just "well, uh, that's how I feel 'cause that's, um, like, how I feel an' uh it's my opinion an' I gotta right to my opinion!"
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I thought Harry Potter was gay. The franchise I mean.

The thing is, gay will never become a meaningless thing as long as people keep identifying it that way when it's being referred to. For example, the article says that a young member of the audience asked if he finds true love and she replied he's gay.

Now if someone young asked about a straight person that same question, she wouldn't have replied he's straight. It's as though gays have to be identified. Why couldn't she have said that he is attracted to some other guy?...

Yeah, I had a flash of an idea last night that JKR planted the audience member to bring the gay thing into light. Could be a publicity stunt.

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personal opinion: JKR was pretty unfair to Dumbledore
first she gets him bumped off (may his soul RIP)... then she announces that he was gay all this while...
what next? that he was also a pedophile?

Gay ... ---> Paedophile ..... Unfortunately that is a strong connotation for most people. I will never be able to look at the way Dumbledore looks at Harry the same ever again...

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To each his own. I still don't think that young(pre adolescent) children need or want exposure to homosexuality. Just my opinion.

I can understand that... but what about their friends that have "two mommys" or "two daddys"...? Just curious, how would you explain that to a 8 or 10 year old...? [Not being provocative here, I am wondering, in case OMFG I ever have kids...]
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Yeah, I had a flash of an idea last night that JKR planted the audience member to bring the gay thing into light. Could be a publicity stunt.



Gay ... ---> Paedophile ..... Unfortunately that is a strong connotation for most people. I will never be able to look at the way Dumbledore looks at Harry the same ever again...



I can understand that... but what about their friends that have "two mommys" or "two daddys"...? Just curious, how would you explain that to a 8 or 10 year old...? [Not being provocative here, I am wondering, in case OMFG I ever have kids...]

my uncle is gay and he has adopted a long with his partner ( who is an imbosile ) i believe 3 or 4 children off of one of my aunts who can not stay off of drugs and keep her legs closed. when kids grow up having the two fathers or mothers, they realise it is normal, it is later in life, around 10 probably, when they realise, why does "insert childs friends name" have a mommy and a daddy instead of two daddies, when you have some explaining to do.



Wouldn't it be messed up if a kid with gay parents became a homophobic later on in life. That'd be fucked. Hahahahaha.
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(who is an imbosile)

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ALL ONE AND THE SAME!

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I love that one.
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Cheap publicity stunt. I wonder why she didn't declare this when the character was alive or at the start of the series. She could have atleast depicted him conjuring a bottle of vasoline from time to time...

Coming up next.

Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore - Confessions of a gay headmaster by J. K. Rowling

Followed shorty thereafter by full feature p0rn movie with Harry Potter along the lines of

Harry Potter and the Brokeback Goblet http://youtube.com/watch?v=e9D0veHTxh0

SNL - Harry Potter Skit http://youtube.com/watch?v=jkteja7W7es

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And what an incredibly lame opinion it is. Nothing to back it up, no depth to it, just "well, uh, that's how I feel 'cause that's, um, like, how I feel an' uh it's my opinion an' I gotta right to my opinion!"

Sorry you feel that way. Hell take your kids(if you have any) to the gay pride festival in San Fran. I really don't give a shit.
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I can understand that... but what about their friends that have "two mommys" or "two daddys"...? Just curious, how would you explain that to a 8 or 10 year old...? [Not being provocative here, I am wondering, in case OMFG I ever have kids...]

I would just state that they have two mommys or two two daddies. At age 8 or 10 it's not necessary to explain the details of homosexual relations. Kids of that age don't ask how two people of the same sex have sexual relations. At least mine haven't.
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personal opinion: JKR was pretty unfair to Dumbledore

first she gets him bumped off (may his soul RIP)... then she announces that he was gay all this while...

what next? that he was also a pedophile?


Are you seriously equating being homosexual with being a paedophile?
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Are you seriously equating being homosexual with being a paedophile?

no. i'm just speculating on future announcements from Ms. Rowling...

seriously, i never understood what purpose was achieved by Dumbledore's death...
i never understood what purpose was achieved by this sudden declaration that he (RIP) was gay...
just made me wonder what the f**k's happening...

no offense meant to anyone... including pedophiles
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