Originally Posted by Carniphage
Sorry about the Wax-Cyl thing. It is kind of glib. But this thread has turned into BluRay versus digital - instead of BluRay verus HDDVD.
It's just that I really started to hate DVDs. It's become a sort of quest. I'll explain why.
Don't get me wrong. I own hundreds of DVDs. I have about equal numbers of Region 1 and Region 2 disks. And that's where my hatred started to grown.
It was when my hardware stopped me watching films that I had actually paid for. That made me mad. Really quite annoyed. And I wanted revenge on the people that had imposed this on me.
The second thing was the stupid menus and non-skippable lectures on piracy. If you have ever rented from Lovefilm, you'll know the drill. For Americans out there, Lovefilm is the UKs version of Netflix. All the rental disks have been remastered to include antipiracy lectures that look a lot like this. (But not as funny)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OyoFVGvks4
And third reason was my epiphany that all movies were either "renters" or "keepers"
Keepers are totally worth 20 quid. You watch them again and again. They become a part of your life.
But renters are the ones you watch once, and know you'll never ever watch again. If you spend £10 on a renter. It's £10 wasted. Watch once and forget. The right price is 2-4 quid. Based on the quality and the newness.
The people pushing blu-ray want us to re-buy our DVD collection. They want region-locking. They want the freedom to pimp up the disk with some interactive crap. They want industrial strength DRM. They certainly don't want me putting stuff I bought on a Drobo or an iPod.
What I want is a file. Just the file. I just want to watch the goddamn movie. I want to watch it in Europe *and* the US. I want to watch it on TV and on my iPod. And if it's a keeper. I'll pay for the extras, I'll pay for the directors commentary. I'll relish every frigging pixel.
But if it is a renter. Then just no! No effing way am I paying 24 quid up front for a movie that I will watch only once. My disillusionment with blu-ray is that they seem to be saying that every movie is a keeper.
And you know that isn't really tru, Ray.
the wax cyl thing I get, but with the fanboyism from certain posters on, lets face it, off topic bollox... ahh..
I agree with the anti piracy thing, I've been there shouting at the telly "I bought you you FUKK!" etc. but recently I've mellowed, stick the disc in a moment or two earlier, pour a cuppa and then sit down.
equally, I'm there on the file bit, watching a lot of stuff on my iPod and AppleTV, click - film/programme starts - happy viewer. but thats minus all the ripping hassle!
then you sit down to watch a BD disc at 1080p and your eyes just don't know whats happened to them
the image is SO sharp compared to a rip, compared to SD-DVD. Is it worth the expense? mmm hell yeah, if its a keeper.
Currently looking at ebaying a boat load of "renters" I bought and admittedly, watched at least twice! recording film four (for volume) or BBC (for better quality) and then spending a few minutes in MpegStreamclip to chop out the ads/top and tail knock a few of those out and then leave to batch process over night.. why rent again?
When there are actually iPod versions included ON a BD disc, or even links to a free iPod version on SD-DVDs on EVERY disc, then us "not wanting to invest in a possibly intermediate format" types will put our money more readily where the studios want us to
In the mean time its either buy both and rip the SD or buy the BD rent the SD and rip it. or go on the interwebs and nab a rip from the lime/torrents.
or just get the SD, or just get the BD.
or go for the Apple sanctioned version.... and I'm not so inclined to go there JUST yet, unless as you say, its for a renter, which I must confess I haven't ventured as far as doing yet.
still havent bought 2001 (again) on BD, but film fours Kubrick season has made it almost an impulse buy, except I have things to do, and I KNOW I'd sit and watch it twice
got the toys, now need to find more time to play with them