Originally Posted by pomo
I totally agree, one thing that I think would put this sub-notebook over the competition would be multitouch technology. Apple jas the technology and it would be silly if they didn't implement it, specially for the japanese market.
This (if such a machine is for real) is a computer, not an iDevice, and re-engineering Leopard enough to include all those features this soon ain't gonna happen IMHO, though it's possible to see a token move in that direction. In fact both the iPhone/iTouch and Leopard systems are brand new. Overlapping them will take a bit of coding (and serious thinking about how they will do so -- since this is a device with a keyboard, existing trackpad, etc. and won't be held in your hands -- so there's also a lot of human factors and UI engineering involved before Apple decides on the ultimate future of its interface designs.
Originally Posted by umijin
I welcome an ultraportable - I need it badly and so does the Japanese market. But, dammit, you don't need any new technology to produce an ultraportable. Windoze laptop makers have been doing this for years and coming in well under 2kg, often under 1.5 kg even with an optical drive.
So, it's really odd that Apple had to wait so long, when it could have used existing technology. The flash drives and all that other stuff to lighten the portable is nice - but after years of waiting to replace a 12" Powerbook - it just makes no sense.
Originally Posted by desarc
think different. Apple NEVER releases anything that justs meets the status quo of the market. i'm sure they've waited until it could be done the way they want to do it.
Originally Posted by pmjoe
At 13", this just sounds like a MacBook with a few less features/weight. Though I'm sure more than a few would buy one, there's not much to get excited about.
There WILL some whiz-bang aspects, if mostly in design, at least enough for the press and public to buy into the RDF as if Apple had just invented the ultra-portable. And it will be the ONLY two (or slightly heavier) pound portable Mac you can buy....
Originally Posted by pomo
What if apple waited until now to release an ultra-portable, because they wanted to implement multitouch technology to reduce the size. think about it, the trackpad and the keyboard take space up...so why not just get rid of them. And making it 13 inches would be great if the multitouch technology is added because the screen could then emulate a full size qwerty multitouch keypad.
Just some fruit for thought.
See above. 99% likely premature, except for maybe a feature or two.
Originally Posted by camimac
I for one am not at all excited that this might actually be true, because if it is then it means that we won't have any reasonably-priced tower any time soon.
I can't believe Apple is ready to address a niche market instead of concentrating on filling the gap between the iMac and the Mac Pro. I currently have an iMac Core 2 Duo (white), and I'm not at all happy with the general reliability of the machine, nor the quality of its monitor. If Apple continues to insist in not providing us one of the most popular computer form factors, I will look elsewhere next time I need to renew my hardware and then I'll go and install Mac OS X on it.
Minituratization is the future of digital technology and Apple has the scent. A Leopard ultraportable "done right" (many of them suck, e.g., in performance, readability, typability, etc) could be a reasonably big hit -- partly for the coolness factor, e.g., it will be the natural choice for many CEOs and would-be CEO types who want to make an impression and not be burdened down with the weight and bulk nerds are willing to shoulder. Overburdened business travelers and stylish women (some of whom are the same people) and people like me with bad backs (or bad anythings) will give serious consideration. Could reinvigorate Japanese sales (or not), it'll draw company and jealous glances in coffee shops and college libraries (and be easy to carry around campus).
But on the other hand, this could INCREASE the likelihood of a mid-range Mac. As another poster said, or the article (I forget), this promises to be a Mac World focused on new hardware products, since there won't be a new Mac OS or a new multi-touch operating system (though maybe a 1.5 or 2.0 will be announced) or a new iLife or a new iWorks or much new pro software since they've all be recently re-revved -- and one new line of computers isn't enough for a big MW SF. So this is the most likely product. A revamped MBP and/or MP are also contenders, but those will be likely largely refinements. A simultaneous release of an ultraportable and some kind of iPhone on steroids (and/or iPhone lite) are possible, but maybe not until June or later. A 16 gig iPhone and 32 gig iTouch would be nice, but not huge news. So that leaves the door open a crack to also add a new mid-range product appealing to both long-clamoring MacHeads and the small to medium business (SMB) market. And with an ultraporable, neatly fill all of Apple's missing niches.
One more thing: as pointed out elsewhere, Apple's Cinema displays are getting positively ancient. New ACD's AND a new mid-range Mac would make a tasty combo. Unless Apple's getting ready to cede the free-standing monitor business, which would be another reason the current models are so long in the tooth. It is kind of a commodity market. But equally, a 36" super display wouldn't surprise me either.
Ultra portables, mid-rangers and revamped MBP's and MP's would make my (and Apple's) MacWorld from what I think is likely. (Other possibilities: big changes in the iTunes store, Google-related team-ups, an ADVR-TV, etc.)
Originally Posted by Mark Dodel
IBM is really a shell of its former self. They have jettisoned a lot of their software products and unloaded their pc lines. That leaves them their server and mainframe market. Still sizable, but no one buys an all-IBM solution any more. They are mostly a service/support company now with lots of competition from others including m$ft.
I beg to differ. IBM has bigger sales than ever before. They have a history of jettisoning lines, programs, and whole divisions (printers, hard drives, PC's and more) going back decades -- sometimes in response to crisis and failure, but also sometimes proactively -- while emerging eventually bigger and stronger. They're all about the plumbing of giant enterprises (and running part or all of their IT operations) that make for MEGO reading, but big business for the biggest businesses. And I believe they still come up with more patents every year than any other digital company, some in very basic and advanced research, and they're at the forefront of supercomputing. You might also want to Google the Eclipse foundation to get a handle on IBM's big play in Open Source.
Originally Posted by bsenka
The is the stupidest product I've ever heard of.
Leave out the optical drive just to make it thinner? WhoGAS if a notebook is any thinner than they already are? Macbooks are already very thin and light. When people talk about "ultra-portable" they mean overall smaller dimensions, a smaller footprint, and a smaller screen. That might justify the lack of an optical drive, but "thinner"? Come on.
Some of us continue to see the world only through our own lenses. Halving the weight of my bag of computing rocks would be huge for me, but as above I also try to see it in the light of the total marketplace, not just my own needs and wants.
But one thing to think about is an update on the dock concept. A one step hook up to optical drive, larger HD (or HD's), extra ports, facility for larger monitor, free standing keyboard and mouse (especially if the device itself is improbably multi-touch and lacks a track pad), with some other Apple touches. Still, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Originally Posted by Benton
Can anyone knowledgeably address the eReader possibility I raised in comment 66?
I don't know how knowledgeable I am, but you're talking about totally different screen technologies. The ebook screen depends on its not consuming power once a page of data has been rendered. It's also supersharp and only (for now at least in general production) black and white. LED displays need constant power, even when nothing on the screen is changing. They also, as you can observe, don't deliver text that's as readable over hours as paper whereas eBooks almost pull this off. Also, the form factor is wrong for the way most books are formatted, unless the iPhone accelerometer tech could be added. And I also think a 2.5 pound "book" would get heavy on the lap compared to the weight of an eBook reader.