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post #121 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

No I think you misunderstood me. For example I buy phone A on a 2 year contract but phone B comes out after a year. Normally if I want to do a god deal on a free upgrade or cancel the contract so im able to take out a new contract on phone b I have to pay a termination fee which is usually made up of all the remaining line rental. Thats quite a lot, its not as easy over here as just paying a small upgrade free so long as your with the same network, not at all. So your telling me AT & T will let you just pay the price of the phone without any other fees?

All I'm saying is that when I asked ATT about changes in the contract they said that all the contract says is that I had to have a phone with them for two years. The rest of this is speculation but it makes sense. I bought my phone and didn't set up a contract before left the store. Also in the past when Apple exchanged my phone I took it home and it automatically became my phone without extending the two years because I used my existing SIM. What that tells me is that when I choose to upgrade to the 3g phone I should be able to drop my old SIM in the new phone and it won't affect my contract at all.

PS. This is just for the US, but does what I posted make sense for the UK assuming you don't extend your contract to get a deal. My girlfriend;s phone broke (she was on ATT) she just bought a used phone off ebay, dropped her old SIM in and was good to go. No extension of contract necessary.
post #122 of 230
I see. Unfortunatley its not that simple in the UK although of course you are always free to buy a phone sim free and use it with your sim.
post #123 of 230
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Originally Posted by LaEsperanza View Post

Will we wait until Q4 for the 3G announced on January 15th like you previously claimed? The whole world will soon mock the name bavlondon2

...just trying to follow along. So are you saying that a 3G phone will not be announced on Jan 15th?... But if it is... then bavlondon2 just had a lucky guess? Sounds like a catch 22. Either way bavlondon2 loses. Oh yeah... you also kept saying "london ... half way around the world"... like the pictures would be sent by ship or something. Since the advent of the internet, half way around the world is a couple of seconds away with pictures bud. Not much different than across the street. Ya know? IMHO, just wait until Jan. 15th. Who knows, maybe bav could become an asset. Gotta keep an open mind.
post #124 of 230
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Originally Posted by HyteProsector View Post

...just trying to follow along. So are you saying that a 3G phone will not be announced on Jan 15th?... But if it is... then bavlondon2 just had a lucky guess? Sounds like a catch 22. Either way bavlondon2 loses. Oh yeah... you also kept saying "london ... half way around the world"... like the pictures would be sent by ship or something. Since the advent of the internet, half way around the world is a couple of seconds away with pictures bud. Not much different than across the street. Ya know? IMHO, just wait until Jan. 15th. Who knows, maybe bav could become an asset. Gotta keep an open mind.

I know that the internet makes China closer than my next door neighbor, but what I was saying is that it would be more likely that pictures would be leaked by a buddy in Cupertino sending pics to a buddy in San Fran that he goes and has a drink with on Saturdays. I want a 3G to be announced on Jan 15 because I will switch from Verizon to AT&T that day if it happens. If it happens, I will give Bav a big and maybe a slap on the back (insert creative smiley), but what I am saying is that he took typical speculations and treated them as facts. I, personally, do not believe that what he is saying will happen on the 15th, nor do I believe that Apple would preview a phone for October in January. If nothing is announced, he is proven a fool. If 2 new iphone products are announced (not necessarily released) on the 15th, then kudos to the chap from London. I'll take him as an asset once his predictions are true, but I may be skeptical until he announces something to us that has not been previously rumored on AI.
post #125 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Do you think there arnt people in the UK involved? Do you not think that O2 havent been briefed already? Noob

Come the 15th we shall see. Ive said my piece. Nothing to prove to you, I had inside info and chose to share it with you lot. if you dont want to take it then shut up and dont reply to my post, its not that hard is it?

Um hum, sure bavlondon2. If you’re trying to prove something then I hope it’s to be a comedian. In the “Slow Release of iPhone Updates” topic in one of your posts you stated about the iPhone “no mp3s as ringones”. Ok, reality check, you want us to think you have “inside info” on the iPhone but you didn’t even know that Apple already introduced ringtones for the iPhone? That they also gave it a unique way for customizing those ringtones?

But you want us to actually believe that you somehow keep up on all the great secrets of the iPhone, it's software updates, and even "inside info" as to the upcoming model(s)? Hmm, ok. (Giggle)

Wait, haha, it gets better, hehe - you also want us to believe that we should actually start to listen to you about new iPhone models when, in fact, you didn’t even tell us about the next software update - possibly 1.1.3? That would have been easier!

Bavlondon2, it doesn’t matter how much you try to impress us because it’s apparent you don’t have any information, ahem – whatsoever, about anything remotely resembling “inside info” about the iPhone. Bav has said absolutely nothing ground breaking about anything and holding “I said there’d be two” as a sign of genius is right up there with “Nike will come out with X new shoes by next Christmas”. Really? Who would think?

Maybe I'll look into the new article about the possible software 1.1.3 update - that's right, the one Bavlondon2 didn't tell us about.

Haha, oh, it’s too much.
post #126 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

I see. Unfortunatley its not that simple in the UK although of course you are always free to buy a phone sim free and use it with your sim.

Actually, I think it is that simple.

The iPhones are only locked to the carrier not to their IMEI number. As long as you've activated your O2 SIM in iTunes you should be able to take it out of one iPhone and put it in another and continue as if nothing happened. Since you can buy a new iPhone in an Apple store without signing up to a contract, I don't see why you couldn't buy a 3G iPhone and do the same. I'm presuming Apple isn't going to be so evil as to change the lock mechanism so that current iPhone SIMs require different activation.

Does anyone know if you can use an iPhone SIM in phones other than an iPhone ?
post #127 of 230
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Originally Posted by Kephisto View Post

Um hum, sure bavlondon2. If youre trying to prove something then I hope its to be a comedian. In the Slow Release of iPhone Updates topic in one of your posts you stated about the iPhone no mp3s as ringones. Ok, reality check, you want us to think you have inside info on the iPhone but you didnt even know that Apple already introduced ringtones for the iPhone? That they also gave it a unique way for customizing those ringtones?

But you want us to actually believe that you somehow keep up on all the great secrets of the iPhone, it's software updates, and even "inside info" as to the upcoming model(s)? Hmm, ok. (Giggle)

Wait, haha, it gets better, hehe - you also want us to believe that we should actually start to listen to you about new iPhone models when, in fact, you didnt even tell us about the next software update - possibly 1.1.3? That would have been easier!

Bavlondon2, it doesnt matter how much you try to impress us because its apparent you dont have any information, ahem whatsoever, about anything remotely resembling inside info about the iPhone. Bav has said absolutely nothing ground breaking about anything and holding I said thered be two as a sign of genius is right up there with Nike will come out with X new shoes by next Christmas. Really? Who would think?

Maybe I'll look into the new article about the possible software 1.1.3 update - that's right, the one Bavlondon2 didn't tell us about.

Haha, oh, its too much.


You can always spot the ones who spend too much time online from such silly and argumentative comments. I had some info to share and I did, whether you choose to take in that info has feck all to do with me. I couldnt give 2 hoots about what you lot think so I dont know where you are getting this notion I was trying to impress you? And by the way their little thing with itunes and ringtones is NOT the same thing as using mp3s for ringtones. Please, paying extra for a tune you already own just to be able ot have it as a ringtone. Yet another symbol of Apples greed and arrogrance rears its ugly head. Heres a prediction, I predict you will write something stupid after this post and I think it might just happen.

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Originally Posted by LaEsperanza View Post

I know that the internet makes China closer than my next door neighbor, but what I was saying is that it would be more likely that pictures would be leaked by a buddy in Cupertino sending pics to a buddy in San Fran that he goes and has a drink with on Saturdays. I want a 3G to be announced on Jan 15 because I will switch from Verizon to AT&T that day if it happens. If it happens, I will give Bav a big and maybe a slap on the back (insert creative smiley), but what I am saying is that he took typical speculations and treated them as facts. I, personally, do not believe that what he is saying will happen on the 15th, nor do I believe that Apple would preview a phone for October in January. If nothing is announced, he is proven a fool. If 2 new iphone products are announced (not necessarily released) on the 15th, then kudos to the chap from London. I'll take him as an asset once his predictions are true, but I may be skeptical until he announces something to us that has not been previously rumored on AI.

You really amaze me sometimes. You dont even know me personally but want to assume something yourself based on info you only found on the net. How do you possibly know for a fact that there is no one in the UK involved in the iphones progression? How do yu evne know what I may know or who I may have met?

Your just a typical apple fanboy whose own narrow way of thinking renders you to act in a childish and retarted way when you see something you dont like. Grow up and get a life, infact get a hobby as internet forums arnt doing you any good.

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Originally Posted by aegisdesign View Post

Actually, I think it is that simple.

The iPhones are only locked to the carrier not to their IMEI number. As long as you've activated your O2 SIM in iTunes you should be able to take it out of one iPhone and put it in another and continue as if nothing happened. Since you can buy a new iPhone in an Apple store without signing up to a contract, I don't see why you couldn't buy a 3G iPhone and do the same. I'm presuming Apple isn't going to be so evil as to change the lock mechanism so that current iPhone SIMs require different activation.

Does anyone know if you can use an iPhone SIM in phones other than an iPhone ?


Certain outlets to exist in the UK (and you can even do it yourself with the software if you want) that enable you to unlock and jailbreak the iphone however every time un update comes out you would have to wait for devteam to get the hack so that you can update otherwise you will lock it back to O2. With Apple always releasing updates it would be a fustrating process especially is Apple devised a way to stop it being unlocked like Sharp done with the 904.

Also its not just the phone, honestly when those O2 tarrifs were announced many took them as a joke as its standard to get at least almost double the minutes and texts. Im sure once the 2g one is announced they will have some better tarrifs made.
post #128 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Certain outlets to exist in the UK (and you can even do it yourself with the software if you want) that enable you to unlock and jailbreak the iphone however every time un update comes out you would have to wait for devteam to get the hack so that you can update otherwise you will lock it back to O2. With Apple always releasing updates it would be a fustrating process especially is Apple devised a way to stop it being unlocked like Sharp done with the 904.

That's only relevant if you want to use another carrier or O2 tariff other than the iPhone tariffs. I don't think it applies if you take the SIM out of an iPhone and put it in another iPhone or another phone other than the iPhone but I've not tried.

It'd be handy if you could take the SIM out of the iPhone to stick in another make of phone or modem as the iPhone doesn't allow USB/bluetooth modem use.
post #129 of 230
Why would you want to do that, the iphone tarrifs suck ass.
post #130 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

You really amaze me sometimes. You dont even know me personally but want to assume something yourself based on info you only found on the net. How do you possibly know for a fact that there is no one in the UK involved in the iphones progression? How do yu evne know what I may know or who I may have met?

First of all, can I just get this out there? Try spellchecking. It'll seriously make you look smarter, even if you are spouting nonsense. Also, in the next quote it is "you're" as in "you are" and not "your" as in the possessive form. If anything else, it'll make you look older than 16.

Now onto your reply: I am not assuming anything. Personally, I do know a man who was blessed to visit the R&D department at Apple because his company programs the software they use to render their mockups. So, I have a pretty firm grasp of the fact that it is sealed tighter than a safe in there because he wouldn't tell me what he saw and I have known the man for 13 years. Like I stated before, I believe people in London would know that an upcoming iPhone announcement would be made IF it were to be scheduled for the 15th. However, I AM saying that within that handful of people in upper management, the chances of you knowing one personally enough for him to risk his job and tell you is slim to none.

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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Your just a typical apple fanboy whose own narrow way of thinking renders you to act in a childish and retarted way when you see something you dont like. Grow up and get a life, infact get a hobby as internet forums arnt doing you any good.

And you are a cat in a corner that realizes their only defense is to pounce, even if it turns to be a fatal move. Give up. Nobody has really come to your defense for a reason: you have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting.
post #131 of 230
And the winner of the “2007 Greatest Know-it-all that in fact knows-nothing, is – bavlondon2! Stand up, let’s clap for this amazing winner, ladies and gentleman.”

So, bavlondon2, you predicted I would write something stupid after your post. Well, did I? Well, what do I win?! Come on, I want a prize. Can I have an iPhone?
post #132 of 230
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Originally Posted by LaEsperanza View Post

First of all, can I just get this out there? Try spellchecking. It'll seriously make you look smarter, even if you are spouting nonsense. Also, in the next quote it is "you're" as in "you are" and not "your" as in the possessive form. If anything else, it'll make you look older than 16.

Now onto your reply: I am not assuming anything. Personally, I do know a man who was blessed to visit the R&D department at Apple because his company programs the software they use to render their mockups. So, I have a pretty firm grasp of the fact that it is sealed tighter than a safe in there because he wouldn't tell me what he saw and I have known the man for 13 years. Like I stated before, I believe people in London would know that an upcoming iPhone announcement would be made IF it were to be scheduled for the 15th. However, I AM saying that within that handful of people in upper management, the chances of you knowing one personally enough for him to risk his job and tell you is slim to none.



And you are a cat in a corner that realizes their only defense is to pounce, even if it turns to be a fatal move. Give up. Nobody has really come to your defense for a reason: you have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting.

As ive said all along, wait till the 15th. Care to have a little wager? If im wrong in any of my predictions ill change my username to asswipe. But im right then you change yours to dumbyank? Deal?

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Originally Posted by Kephisto View Post

And the winner of the 2007 Greatest Know-it-all that in fact knows-nothing, is bavlondon2! Stand up, lets clap for this amazing winner, ladies and gentleman.

So, bavlondon2, you predicted I would write something stupid after your post. Well, did I? Well, what do I win?! Come on, I want a prize. Can I have an iPhone?

Stay of the crack fella. Yur incessent need to bring my name to the top of the pile only suggests you either have nothing better to do or are a child. I suspect the latter but you never know.
post #133 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

As ive said all along, wait till the 15th. Care to have a little wager? If im wrong in any of my predictions ill change my username to asswipe. But im right then you change yours to dumbyank? Deal?

I'm in on that one. I'd love your name to be AssWipe, but if they won't let you have that, then I'll settle with AlwaysWrong. I'll gladly bear the name DumbYank if it means I have a new iPhone in my hands on the 15th.

So let's make sure that we are getting this correct:


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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Ok ive got some major news. 2 new phones will be announced at macworld in Jan. One high end - the true sucessor to iphone and a cheaper more affordable alternative.

It will however be made at Quanta technologies. The current one is made at Foxlink factories in China.

Does that sound familiar? If we do not see 2 new PHONES at MacWorld that are made at Quanta, your name will be banned from AppleInsider and you will have to change your name to either AssWipe or AlwaysWrong. If there are 2 phones even ANNOUNCED at MacWorld, my new name is DumbYank.

Let's get a mod involved to make it official. Any mods want to use their power on this one? I'd love to follow through with this and I hope Bav will too, but I just want to make sure that it happens.
post #134 of 230
Its a deal but I dont see how you will have it in your hands on the 15th, unless of course you are at macworld.

But its a deal!!! Mods get things in order!
post #135 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Its a deal but I dont see how you will have it in your hands on the 15th, unless of course you are at macworld.

But its a deal!!! Mods get things in order!

Who says I won't be? Seriously though, I'll get it as soon as it is possible if it has 3G. I can deal with 8gb no problem. Oh how I love forums, stupid bets like these end up being so involved. I hope the mods find the humor that we do.
post #136 of 230
Not a bad idea, LaEsperanza, but it really doesn’t matter what Steve says at MacWorld. Even if he says “we’re releasing two new iPhone models this year” that doesn’t make bavlondon2 any smarter than the average forum troll that says Nike will release two new sneakers. What specific features will make the two iPhones different other than price? He doesn’t say. Will they look different than each other or different from the current iPhone? Yup, bav has absolutely no clue. What will the new software upgrade give us? No answers. When will those new iPhone(s) be released, as in available, for us to buy and at what specific price range? Again, no answers.

Bav wants you to change your name just if Steve says there are two iPhones? That’s not exactly a fair deal, is it? In June they came out with the first two – the 4GB and the 8GB. So in a month they may come out with another two, one in 3G, the other not – wow, there’s two.

But what if he introduces three? One with similar features than the previous 4GB but smaller, another similar to the previous 8GB but with more storage and a few new features, then the all time high end version – one with at least 8GB of storage and new features but it also uses 3G. What if that happens?

Btw, just for the record, hehe, most mods have already decided that bavlondon2 is "full of it" and likely won't try to make matters worse by allowing him to dig a bigger hole for himself. They tend to be fair and keep the forums civil. It doesn't matter to them, in the greater scheme of things, what happens, because bav can always register a different name and not re-enter as bavlondon2. It is funny though.

As for the bet, LaEsperanza, let's call bav out on his bluff and raise the ante! Since he's apparently up for it let's ask him, point blank, for all to say, about answering the questions I've asked above. What's the harm in him answering them, because in about 16 days we'll all know what Steve said, right?

Bav,
What specific features will make the two iPhones different other than price?
Will they look different than each other or different from the current iPhone and if so in what way?
What will the new software upgrade give us?
When will those new iPhone(s) be released, as in available, for us to buy and at what specific price range?
post #137 of 230
Ah backing out of the bet then are we. Typical Americans, all talk!
post #138 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Why would you want to do that, the iphone tarrifs suck ass.

In order to work out if the SIM is locked to iPhones only so that you can take the SIM out of your iPhone and use it in any other phone.

eg.

- when you want to carry a smaller phone
- when you want to use a 3G USB modem with your unlimited data tariff
- when you want to carry a cheaper old beatup phone for exercising, to the pub or some other place where you don't want to beat the crap out of an expensive slab of shinyness.
- when your iPhone is in for repair
- when you've just bought a new 3G iPhone without a new contract as the OP stated.
post #139 of 230
Yeah possibly but on the point of taking something else to the gym or to the pub doesnt that go against the whole "iphone status symbol in public" thing?
post #140 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Ah backing out of the bet then are we. Typical Americans, all talk!

Just answer the questions, "Know-it-all that in fact knows-nothing". Once again, just in case we need to go really slow for you, those questions are :

What specific features will make the two iPhones different other than price?
Will they look different than each other or different from the current iPhone and if so in what way?
What will the new software upgrade give us?
When will those new iPhone(s) be released, as in available, for us to buy and at what specific price range?

Do you have any questions to add, LaEsperanza? I've got the feeling all bav can come up with is "Hey, look at me, I'm a genius because I predict Steve will release two new iPhones next year".
post #141 of 230
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Originally Posted by Kephisto View Post

Not a bad idea, LaEsperanza, but it really doesnt matter what Steve says at MacWorld. Even if he says were releasing two new iPhone models this year that doesnt make bavlondon2 any smarter than the average forum troll that says Nike will release two new sneakers. What specific features will make the two iPhones different other than price? He doesnt say. Will they look different than each other or different from the current iPhone? Yup, bav has absolutely no clue. What will the new software upgrade give us? No answers. When will those new iPhone(s) be released, as in available, for us to buy and at what specific price range? Again, no answers.

Bav wants you to change your name just if Steve says there are two iPhones? Thats not exactly a fair deal, is it? In June they came out with the first two the 4GB and the 8GB. So in a month they may come out with another two, one in 3G, the other not wow, theres two.

But what if he introduces three? One with similar features than the previous 4GB but smaller, another similar to the previous 8GB but with more storage and a few new features, then the all time high end version one with at least 8GB of storage and new features but it also uses 3G. What if that happens?

Btw, just for the record, hehe, most mods have already decided that bavlondon2 is "full of it" and likely won't try to make matters worse by allowing him to dig a bigger hole for himself. They tend to be fair and keep the forums civil. It doesn't matter to them, in the greater scheme of things, what happens, because bav can always register a different name and not re-enter as bavlondon2. It is funny though.

Would we all agree that a MB, a 15" MBP, and a 17" MBP are 3 separate products? 4GB and 8GB were not two separate products, just more memory. It'd be like saying the 15" MBP with 2GB memory is a SEPARATE PRODUCT than the MBP with 3GB memory. Or a Mustang with a CD player is a SEPARATE PRODUCT than one with a CD changer. He said there would be 2 NEW phones and explained that one would be a nano-like (cheaper) alternative and the other would be the "true successor" to the iPhone. This means that we will see 2 new phones. 2 phones by Apple that are completely separate form factors just like the BlackBerry Curve is different than the 8800. He can't pull that crap because of previous discussion.

I am in this until the end. We all know Bav is a moron and it shows in his spelling, grammar, and obvious lack of knowledge. This is why I am hoping to never see the name Bavlondon again. He has agreed that the name he would forever post under in AI would be either AssWipe or AlwaysWrong. No semantics in this one, just two NEW phones that would be easily distinguishable from the naked eye.
post #142 of 230
I've read similar speculations about two new iPhones and Apple switching companies for various components - from reading various websites. None of that information came to me first by bav. I find this amusing and, if bav was remotely stable, I would gladly put $2,000 on the table, just to see his reaction when things don't turn out the way he wants them to.

LaEsperanza, I agree with you about the number of products, but given the context some people define the iPhone as being two products now, a lower and a higher priced model, so I was just being careful. I need more "inside info" than his just stating two new phones, though. It's all in good fun - but I always keep in mind that it's not smart to enter bets with those that aren't going to live up to their end of the bargain, hehe.
post #143 of 230
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Originally Posted by Kephisto View Post

Just answer the questions, "Know-it-all that in fact knows-nothing". Once again, just in case we need to go really slow for you, those questions are :

What specific features will make the two iPhones different other than price?
Will they look different than each other or different from the current iPhone and if so in what way?
What will the new software upgrade give us?
When will those new iPhone(s) be released, as in available, for us to buy and at what specific price range?

Do you have any questions to add, LaEsperanza? I've got the feeling all bav can come up with is "Hey, look at me, I'm a genius because I predict Steve will release two new iPhones next year".

I honestly only care about that previous quote of the cheap one and the "true successor." This means that they must look different from each other. If one looks the same or very similar to the iPhone, then it is okay, but one MUST look different.

He didn't call the 1.1.3, and I am still wondering if I am convinced, but that shows that he didn't see any software upgrades coming, just two new phones. He also previously stated that one would be announced in January (on the 15th) for Q4 sales.

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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Iphone 2 (3g version) will be announed in jan 08 and will be released Q4 08 to conincide with Nokias touch screen flagship model as well as SEs P5.

So this new competitor for Nokia and SE is probably going to be $500+. The other one MUST be below $399 as it is a more affordable one. I'll take $398 as cheaper, I am that convinced it won't happen. We just better see 2 phones announced. A cheaper NEW one (not the 1st gen that we have seen for 6 months) and the "true successor" that competes with the previous brands that will not be released until Q4. He has cornered himself in specificity regarding the form of the phones and the price of the phones. Now we just wait. I wish we could just bet an iPhone on this, but that'd be too hard to track.
post #144 of 230
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Originally Posted by LaEsperanza View Post

Would we all agree that a MB, a 15" MBP, and a 17" MBP are 3 separate products? 4GB and 8GB were not two separate products, just more memory. It'd be like saying the 15" MBP with 2GB memory is a SEPARATE PRODUCT than the MBP with 3GB memory. Or a Mustang with a CD player is a SEPARATE PRODUCT than one with a CD changer. He said there would be 2 NEW phones and explained that one would be a nano-like (cheaper) alternative and the other would be the "true successor" to the iPhone. This means that we will see 2 new phones. 2 phones by Apple that are completely separate form factors just like the BlackBerry Curve is different than the 8800. He can't pull that crap because of previous discussion.

I am in this until the end. We all know Bav is a moron and it shows in his spelling, grammar, and obvious lack of knowledge. This is why I am hoping to never see the name Bavlondon again. He has agreed that the name he would forever post under in AI would be either AssWipe or AlwaysWrong. No semantics in this one, just two NEW phones that would be easily distinguishable from the naked eye.

Yes for the last time, 2 different products! And theres no need to go round name calling anyone moron. Your only digging your grave deeper with everyone of these antagonistic posts mate. :-)

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Originally Posted by Kephisto View Post

Just answer the questions, "Know-it-all that in fact knows-nothing". Once again, just in case we need to go really slow for you, those questions are :

What specific features will make the two iPhones different other than price?
Will they look different than each other or different from the current iPhone and if so in what way?
What will the new software upgrade give us?
When will those new iPhone(s) be released, as in available, for us to buy and at what specific price range?

Do you have any questions to add, LaEsperanza? I've got the feeling all bav can come up with is "Hey, look at me, I'm a genius because I predict Steve will release two new iPhones next year".

The one that will be out in May will look very similar if not identical to the current one. The one to be released in Q4 2008 will look more different but only in the way of possibly an extra few external buttons.

Software upgrade you mean 1.1.3? I cant remember of the top of my head, but multiple sms.

First one will be out in May 08 and then Q4 08.

And anyway why are you asking me these questions if your so sure of yourself?
post #145 of 230
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Yeah possibly but on the point of taking something else to the gym or to the pub doesnt that go against the whole "iphone status symbol in public" thing?

I actually said 'exercising'. Going to the gym is for idiots with more money than sense, so perhaps you have something there.

I usually use an old phone chucked in the back of my rucksack whilst mountain biking. An iPhone would get beat up in that kind of environment in no time at all. I can't imagine want kind of damage Yorkshire gritstone would do to the shinyness and in any case, the touch screen doesn't work with gloves on.
post #146 of 230
To be honest id find it a hassle to take my sim out and put it into a different phone several times a week.
post #147 of 230
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The one that will be out in May will look very similar if not identical to the current one. The one to be released in Q4 2008 will look more different but only in the way of possibly an extra few external buttons.

Which one is the cheaper more affordable? The one that looks similar if not identical? That isn't a new, cheaper, and more affordable one, that is a refreshed 1st Gen.

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Ok ive got some major news. 2 new phones will be announced at macworld in Jan. One high end - the true sucessor to iphone and a cheaper more affordable alternative.
post #148 of 230
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To be honest id find it a hassle to take my sim out and put it into a different phone several times a week.

Cheaper than smashing up an iPhone though.
post #149 of 230
Wow, bav, do you know you actually spelled antagonistic right? Holy smokes, Batman, that's diabolical. Let's have it, ladies and gentlemen, bav just started using a spell checker before posting! Come on, louder than that - we're talking a big step up for the guy. Yahoo!

Ok, calm down, not that loud - he still has to double check "there's" instead of "theres" and "You're" instead of "your" and... well, he's not on a par with the norm yet, but I do see improvement. It's nice to visit the forums without being forced to shift into 3rd grade "check this student's writing" again.

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And anyway why are you asking me these questions if your so sure of yourself?

I'm not the one that said he had "inside info" - you did, so I took the liberty to ask. Try not to be too hard on me, I'm American. "We're a liberty people".
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Which one is the cheaper more affordable? The one that looks similar if not identical? That isn't a new, cheaper, and more affordable one, that is a refreshed 1st Gen.

And how do you know that? Are you asking me or telling me? Thats what I thought.

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Cheaper than smashing up an iPhone though.

Yeah true. But with a phone as expensive and elaborate as that insurance is a must.
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And how do you know that? Are you asking me or telling me? Thats what I thought.

Was the MBP switch from Core Duo to Core 2 Duo the introduction of a new MBP? It was a refresh. So, yes, I am telling you that the same form factor and same price point is the same product. The form is what makes the product different. So you are already saying that there will be ONE new product. I'll let that slide because I don't think that they will announce both at MW '08 and that is where BOTH have to be announced within the same keynote for your name to stay the same. Bav, you baffle me. I can't wait to refer to you as asswipe or alwayswrong.
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As I've said, LaEsperanza, bav's already earned the 2007 title. Hehe, what's to be baffled about? Start referring to him with the new name now. You should get some pleasure before he leaves the forums for good.
post #154 of 230
Just thinking out loud... any trash talking that will be done, should be done under the thread that proves the winning person correct. i.e. don't come back to this thread to trash talk the loser. Why?

1.) It's more fitting to do the bashing in response to the correlating proof.

2.) more people will see it if its under a new topic ... hahaha.

3.) This makes sure everyone knows where to bring their comments concerning this matter.

This is adding to the excitement of MacWorld 2008
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Just thinking out loud... any trash talking that will be done, should be done under the thread that proves the winning person correct. i.e. don't come back to this thread to trash talk the loser.

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Good idea, HyteProsector. Even if bav "wins", I'll still point out his terrible spelling and mashing words together - but otherwise I accept those terms.


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This is adding to the excitement of MacWorld 2008

I can't wait to see what Steve has in store for us. At the top of my list are the expected 3G iPhone, movie rentals through iTunes, 3rd party apps and the SDK, and quite possibly before the end of the year - copy/paste and using widescreen mode to read and type in Notes and email.

I'm also curious what Google has in store for us, indirectly, with it's new Google apps. They could very well establish a stronger link with Steve, customizing their online products for those using an iPhone, like they're trying to do with gmail.

Overall, 2008 is going to be, as Steve would say - "insanely great".
post #156 of 230
To add to that list you forgot GPS which coupled with the latest Google Maps 3d could make the whole experience a lot better, not to mention an improved camera with video recording capabilities. Iphone already excels in video playback, music and web browsing so its only right that they step into imaging. Infact some on here may remember not long after Macworld 07 there was a job vacancy posted for a position at Apple specialising in camera modules. Unless Apple is planning another venture into cameras, its a safe bet to say that we should see a 3.2 or even 5mp cam in future iphones.
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...Unless Apple is planning another venture into cameras, its a safe bet to say that we should see a 3.2 or even 5mp cam in future iphones.

Who cares about 3.2 or 5 MP. It's the optics that matter.
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Who cares about 3.2 or 5 MP. It's the optics that matter.

Thank you, another person who understands photography. 5mp with horrible glass is like a great QB with horrible receivers. It doesn't matter how good they are if their teammates cannot catch. Just the same, great electronics (for a phone) will not compensate for bad glass.
post #159 of 230
I didn't forget mentioning other features. I just stated what features were "at the top of my list". What's at the top of your list is up to you. As far as digital cameras are concerned, it seems Kodak recently released a new chip which dramatically increases light sensitivity and sharpness. As others have stated, the mp of a digital camera is not the only important quality - it's merely one of many.
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I didn't forget mentioning other features. I just stated what features were "at the top of my list". What's at the top of your list is up to you. As far as digital cameras are concerned, it seems Kodak recently released a new chip which dramatically increases light sensitivity and sharpness. As others have stated, the mp of a digital camera is not the only important quality - it's merely one of many.

I'd love a great camera, but let me ask you this: if the iPhone was to be updated no matter what, would you rather?

1) A great camera

2) GPS

3) More memory

4) Lower price with same specs and development dollars spent on features like copy/paste and flash

5) Same price, new form

I'd love functionality first. Hell, I'd take GPS before upgrading it to 16GB. I didn't include 3G because it has already been announced for release once battery problems work out. Honestly, a camera would be great, but most pics that I take are of books that I want to buy online later or funny situations. For real memories, I won't use anything less than an slr or dslr.
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