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post #81 of 230
12/14/07 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Yes well im counting 2 chickens and I counted on them to hatch at macworld. Most on here scoffed at the idea of a new iphone being announced so soon.

my my bav. ... you seem extremely confident. I believed you ... in a reserved kinda way.
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post #82 of 230
12/14/07 at 8:05am
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Yes well im counting 2 chickens and I counted on them to hatch at macworld. Most on here scoffed at the idea of a new iphone being announced so soon.

Adding more storage is just a refresh, not really a whole new phone. Its been said a number of times that 3G was coming in 2008.
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post #83 of 230
12/14/07 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by SWThomas View Post

I hope Apple reads this thread...

They read all, be sure of that.

DaHarder just got banned. Let's crack open the champagne.

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DaHarder just got banned. Let's crack open the champagne.

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post #84 of 230
12/14/07 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Adding more storage is just a refresh, not really a whole new phone. Its been said a number of times that 3G was coming in 2008.

Eh, I give bav. credit here... if all of this does come to fruition, he'll definitely have some credibility with me. He didn't just say 2008... any frigtard coulda pulled that out. He went against popular opinion and said "at macworld in Jan." ... He also stated that a second less expensive iPhone would come out. Nothing was said about 3G.


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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Ok ive got some major news. 2 new phones will be announced at macworld in Jan. One high end - the true sucessor to iphone and a cheaper more affordable alternative.

It will however be made at Quanta technologies. The current one is made at Foxlink factories in China.
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post #85 of 230
12/15/07 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by southerndoc View Post

I don't recall ever seeing iPods being updated every 200 days.

Then your memory is faulty.

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Originally Posted by THT View Post

They never announce products that'll produce a drop in sales of existing product lines. And iPhone sales fall into this category.

Phones are different in the United States. If Apple won't announce them in advance, the FCC will.
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post #86 of 230
12/16/07 at 11:48am
Yeah... I call Apple's product update the "Pregnancy Cycle" they're always coming out with new updates about every 9 months or so... (give or take)


Phones are different in the United States. If Apple won't announce them in advance, the FCC will.[/QUOTE]

speaking of which... does anyone know for sure ... that a "refresh" or an "update" on the iPhone needs FCC approval. I know that a lot of people imagine it will ... but does anyone know for sure what the legality is?
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post #87 of 230
12/16/07 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by jouster View Post

Phones are different in the United States. If Apple won't announce them in advance, the FCC will.

Dude, this is Apple we're talking about. They'll get the FCC to keep info about future revisions of the iPhone undisclosed until the last possible moment. Even the 1G iPhone's FCC testing results weren't published until May 2007. 2 month buffer is about the farthest Apple will go with product announcements and product availability.
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post #88 of 230
12/16/07 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by HyteProsector View Post

speaking of which... does anyone know for sure ... that a "refresh" or an "update" on the iPhone needs FCC approval. I know that a lot of people imagine it will ... but does anyone know for sure what the legality is?

If it is just a storage increase, and doesn't touch the radios, I don't see any reason for the FCC to require retesting.
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post #89 of 230
12/17/07 at 8:31am
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Eh, I give bav. credit here... if all of this does come to fruition, he'll definitely have some credibility with me. He also stated that a second less expensive iPhone would come out. Nothing was said about 3G.

The report speculates Apple will add more storage to the iPhone in the first half of 2008 and launch a redesigned iPhone with 3G the second half of 2008. It said nothing about an additional less expensive phone nor any of this being announced at MacWorld.
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post #90 of 230
12/17/07 at 7:14pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

The report speculates Apple will add more storage to the iPhone in the first half of 2008 and launch a redesigned iPhone with 3G the second half of 2008. It said nothing about an additional less expensive phone nor any of this being announced at MacWorld.

Right. So even more reason to give him credit if when on Jan 15th these things turn out. Four weeks.
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post #91 of 230
12/18/07 at 4:47am
4 weeks and counting indeed my friend. All shall be revealed soon.
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post #92 of 230
12/18/07 at 6:00am
Here's rooting for an increased storage model in January so that I can finally buy one of these damned things.
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post #93 of 230
12/18/07 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by Puck View Post

Here's rooting for an increased storage model in January so that I can finally buy one of these damned things.


I second that. I'm undecided as to whether I should hold out for 3G as well though. Who knows maybe we'll get 2 birds with 1 stone. That would be the ultimate for me. Bav.?,.... you got anything on 3G?
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post #94 of 230
12/18/07 at 8:23pm
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Right. So even more reason to give him credit if when on Jan 15th these things turn out. Four weeks.

Credit for taking a shot in the dark?
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post #95 of 230
12/18/07 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Credit for taking a shot in the dark?

Nah, according to Bav... This is an "informed guess"... its on the last page I think. Jan 15th will tell us if he's right. Gotta read whats going.
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post #96 of 230
12/19/07 at 11:25am
So if they do update the iPhone in January to 16GB.. Do you think they will leave the 8GB one at the current price, and the new 16GB will be more expensive?
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post #97 of 230
12/19/07 at 12:07pm
Yes thats almost a certainty. The good thing about technologyios that the prices always come down when something bigger and better is announced.
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post #98 of 230
12/19/07 at 12:41pm
I would bet that the current one drops in price and the current price point is taken by the 16 gig, if it even is announced or comes out. I would be disappointed if we do not see a 16 gig version soon, as i've held off many months in order to get an iPhone with the added space. It'll all be for naught if we just get a new version 2 in the summer, as i'll then end up buying an 8 gig version anyway.
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post #99 of 230
12/19/07 at 4:29pm
My best guess at all of this is that the new phone will be announced in Jan. and then released in March. Who knows for sure.
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post #100 of 230
12/19/07 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by Puck View Post

I would bet that the current one drops in price and the current price point is taken by the 16 gig, if it even is announced or comes out. I would be disappointed if we do not see a 16 gig version soon, as i've held off many months in order to get an iPhone with the added space. It'll all be for naught if we just get a new version 2 in the summer, as i'll then end up buying an 8 gig version anyway.

i dont think the current price will drop, that would make it too cheap (for an apple product). i think a 16 gig model would fill the gap left by the 8 gig model when it took the place of the 4 gig one.
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post #101 of 230
12/25/07 at 8:18pm
So I've been thinking about some things that we're collectively speculating here. I understand that most, if not all of these points are arguable and are just speculative... but just bear with me here. I'm just getting to a point at the end... So anyways... some things that we're collectively speculating:


-16GB iPhone announcement @ MacWorld 2008 (Spotlight on Bav.)
-3G capabilities needed for Japan (Japan does support Edge tech.)*
-3G iPhone coming in '08
-Apple announcements come about every 200 days.


If I were to take an educated stab in the dark, I would say that Apple plans on releasing the 16GB version and 3G version at the same time. Call it strange, but I just don't see Apple releasing two iterations that close to each other. So I'll be the brave soul to say that, I imagine Apple will release this model sometime in the spring.





*http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/18/i...ns-ntt-docomo/
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post #102 of 230
12/28/07 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by HyteProsector View Post

If I were to take an educated stab in the dark, I would say that Apple plans on releasing the 16GB version and 3G version at the same time. Call it strange, but I just don't see Apple releasing two iterations that close to each other. So I'll be the brave soul to say that, I imagine Apple will release this model sometime in the spring.


*http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/18/i...ns-ntt-docomo/


Really hope you're right so I can stop looking at this phone and just buy it already.
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post #103 of 230
12/29/07 at 4:54am
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Originally Posted by chewbee View Post

Really hope you're right so I can stop looking at this phone and just buy it already.

Trust me its very close now, just wait it will be so worth it. In a way it seems unfair to the US customer that signed up for 2 year contracts that there will be a sucessor a whole year into theior contract but maybe they will be offered special rates to pay of the rest and upgrade to iphone 2 or whatever. But just wait there is much to come.
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post #104 of 230
12/29/07 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Trust me its very close now, just wait it will be so worth it. In a way it seems unfair to the US customer that signed up for 2 year contracts that there will be a sucessor a whole year into theior contract but maybe they will be offered special rates to pay of the rest and upgrade to iphone 2 or whatever. But just wait there is much to come.

yep, I'm waiting for 3G because I'm not willing to upgrade (or, to put it in a realistic way, "buy two expensive phones in one year"), and because I know there will be some great apps written for the phone that will need 3G to work well.
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post #105 of 230
12/29/07 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

So i take it that most of you have read the other article now on Apple 2 new iphones for 2008. (just like I said might i add) I might get a chance to see some pics of one of them this week so will do my best to scrounge what I can.

Bav, just a few quick questions. You said that you were going to see some pics. Did you? Also, you are in London, so why would somebody from the bay area electronically send you these pictures and risk their job with Apple? Finally, if you saw these pictures, can you explain what the new one will look like or direct me to a similar mockup online?
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post #106 of 230
12/29/07 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

...In a way it seems unfair to the US customer that signed up for 2 year contracts that there will be a sucessor a whole year into theior contract but maybe they will be offered special rates to pay of the rest and upgrade to iphone 2 or whatever. But just wait there is much to come.

In the US ATT doesn't care if you change the details of your plan, minutes, txt and such, so I doubt they will care if you upgrade your phone. ATT just cares that you have an iPhone contract with them for 2 years.

Its possible that an unlimited 3G data plan might cost more.
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post #107 of 230
12/29/07 at 9:56am
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Originally Posted by HyteProsector View Post

Call it strange, but I just don't see Apple releasing two iterations that close to each other.

Apple upgraded the screen res, VRAM, DVDr and HDs of their G4 Powerbooks, and two or so months later released the 15" MacBook Pro. That's akin to them first upgrading the iPhone's storage, and a month or two later releasing the 3G iPhone.
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post #108 of 230
12/29/07 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by LaEsperanza View Post

Bav, just a few quick questions. You said that you were going to see some pics. Did you? Also, you are in London, so why would somebody from the bay area electronically send you these pictures and risk their job with Apple? Finally, if you saw these pictures, can you explain what the new one will look like or direct me to a similar mockup online?

Im afraid ive been too busy with work these past few weeks so havent seen any pics therefore I cant answer any of your questions. Macworld is in like less than 3 weeks so be patient.


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Originally Posted by darngooddesign View Post

In the US ATT doesn't care if you change the details of your plan, minutes, txt and such, so I doubt they will care if you upgrade your phone. ATT just cares that you have an iPhone contract with them for 2 years.

Its possible that an unlimited 3G data plan might cost more.

No I think you misunderstood me. For example I buy phone A on a 2 year contract but phone B comes out after a year. Normally if I want to do a god deal on a free upgrade or cancel the contract so im able to take out a new contract on phone b I have to pay a termination fee which is usually made up of all the remaining line rental. Thats quite a lot, its not as easy over here as just paying a small upgrade free so long as your with the same network, not at all. So your telling me AT & T will let you just pay the price of the phone without any other fees?
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post #109 of 230
12/29/07 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Im afraid ive been too busy with work these past few weeks so havent seen any pics therefore I cant answer any of your questions. Macworld is in like less than 3 weeks so be patient.




No I think you misunderstood me. For example I buy phone A on a 2 year contract but phone B comes out after a year. Normally if I want to do a god deal on a free upgrade or cancel the contract so im able to take out a new contract on phone b I have to pay a termination fee which is usually made up of all the remaining line rental. Thats quite a lot, its not as easy over here as just paying a small upgrade free so long as your with the same network, not at all. So your telling me AT & T will let you just pay the price of the phone without any other fees?


With iPhone, no issue. Just buy iPhone 2, and plug into iTunes. Your AT&T contract will restart to 2 years. No fees. Anyone can replace a phone (including an iphone) with another iPhone, it just resets your contract to 2 years.

Also, even though you have an iPhone, periodically check your "upgrade" section at Att.com/mywireless someday, if not already, you'll qualify for a discounted handset. You can then get something as a spare phone, or get it and sell it on ebay, for some $$$. Even though we're iPhone customers we still qualify for discounted regular handsets that we can sell or whatever.

I just got and sold 2 refurb Blackberry Curves. Paid $30 each, and I got approx $250 each.
*Powerbook G4 12" - 1.5 GHZ
*iMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHZ (Mid 2007), *Apple 20-inch Cinema Display (Aluminium)
*iPhone 4S, Airport Extreme (2011) *MacBook Air 11-inch (Late 2010)
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*Powerbook G4 12" - 1.5 GHZ
*iMac Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHZ (Mid 2007), *Apple 20-inch Cinema Display (Aluminium)
*iPhone 4S, Airport Extreme (2011) *MacBook Air 11-inch (Late 2010)
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post #110 of 230
12/29/07 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by ibook911 View Post

With iPhone, no issue. Just buy iPhone 2, and plug into iTunes. Your AT&T contract will restart to 2 years. No fees. Anyone can replace a phone (including an iphone) with another iPhone, it just resets your contract to 2 years.

Also, even though you have an iPhone, periodically check your "upgrade" section at Att.com/mywireless someday, if not already, you'll qualify for a discounted handset. You can then get something as a spare phone, or get it and sell it on ebay, for some $$$. Even though we're iPhone customers we still qualify for discounted regular handsets that we can sell or whatever.

I just got and sold 2 refurb Blackberry Curves. Paid $30 each, and I got approx $250 each.

But by that logic is it not possible to keep upgrading every few months and make loads selling these new phones? Or is there a limit?

Thats not a bad way to do things. Who knows as Apple have an exclusive with O2 they may let existingf iphone customers do that aswell. They did something similar when it first came out. If you had taken out an O2 contract before Sepetember then O2 would allow the customer to terminate and start it again with an iphone for a one off £200 - $400. So then the customer still pays the £268 ect....

Normally though for example if I took out an 18 month contract at say £35 a month which is normal for high end phones and then asked after 6 months to to an early upgrade I would be charged the price of the phone which would probabaly be around £100 - £200 depending on the type of phone but also the remaining years line rental. Thats £420.

As you can see we Brits have a habit of getting charged more for everything, the sad thing is we always pay it and even thank the company even for it at the end of it lol. I chose to go for a touch this time as wait for iphones sucessors as I think they will offer me more in terms of my needs from a phone. I really need video recording and 3G so im hoping for something decent in terms of the Q4 release.
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post #111 of 230
12/29/07 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Im afraid ive been too busy with work these past few weeks so havent seen any pics therefore I cant answer any of your questions. Macworld is in like less than 3 weeks so be patient.


Personally I was just making sure that you were BS'ing us. You are in London and there is no way that a few pics would leak to you half the way around the world without getting into other people's hands. I'm pretty sure that the "informed guess" means that you saw the capability and decided to sound like an insider. Creative and suave, but you forgot one key aspect: come January 15th, you will look like a fool. It is fun to speculate, but don't act like you KNOW what will happen.
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post #112 of 230
12/29/07 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by LaEsperanza View Post

Personally I was just making sure that you were BS'ing us. You are in London and there is no way that a few pics would leak to you half the way around the world without getting into other people's hands. I'm pretty sure that the "informed guess" means that you saw the capability and decided to sound like an insider. Creative and suave, but you forgot one key aspect: come January 15th, you will look like a fool. It is fun to speculate, but don't act like you KNOW what will happen.

Do you think there arnt people in the UK involved? Do you not think that O2 havent been briefed already? Noob

Come the 15th we shall see. Ive said my piece. Nothing to prove to you, I had inside info and chose to share it with you lot. if you dont want to take it then shut up and dont reply to my post, its not that hard is it?
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post #113 of 230
12/29/07 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Do you think there arnt people in the UK involved? Do you not think that O2 havent been briefed already? Noob

Come the 15th we shall see. Ive said my piece. Nothing to prove to you, I had inside info and chose to share it with you lot. if you dont want to take it then shut up and dont reply to my post, its not that hard is it?

What I am saying is that it ISN'T inside info and I don't want you starting rumors just to start them. I do believe that O2 has heard the specs of the new iPhone IF there is one. For example, that Apple will be releasing a 3G iPhone and a smaller 3G GSM phone. Maybe a week before they get the specs for the website. So far, this does not need to go lower than upper management. A couple days before, the information is laid down to a page designer.

Don't call me a noob when you know you've been called out. If you have proof, tell us the proof, you have given us nothing that has not already been speculated, you have just acted like you know it. All I am saying is that if your friend has told you things, give us something more than 3g, upgraded to 32gb, and an iPhone Nano. Tell us ONE new functionality that has not yet been widely speculated.
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post #114 of 230
12/29/07 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by LaEsperanza View Post

What I am saying is that it ISN'T inside info and I don't want you starting rumors just to start them. I do believe that O2 has heard the specs of the new iPhone IF there is one. For example, that Apple will be releasing a 3G iPhone and a smaller 3G GSM phone. Maybe a week before they get the specs for the website. So far, this does not need to go lower than upper management. A couple days before, the information is laid down to a page designer.

Don't call me a noob when you know you've been called out. If you have proof, tell us the proof, you have given us nothing that has not already been speculated, you have just acted like you know it. All I am saying is that if your friend has told you things, give us something more than 3g, upgraded to 32gb, and an iPhone Nano. Tell us ONE new functionality that has not yet been widely speculated.

Its not 1 new iphone but 2. And they are being made at a different factory. Why would I possibley spill too much info to satisfy your needs just becasue "you dont want me starting rumors". What are you a friggin mod? I didnt see anyone tell me off when I first brought this news to the table, infact it was quite a few weeks after I said there would be 2 new devices that the same news was reported on here as an article. The only clue that I can give is that both these phones will be made at Quanta technologies instead Foxlink in China where they are currently made. Why dont you go down there, maybe they will show you one as many are being made now lol When people leak info you either say thankyou or shut up ad not say anything, insiders dont give out too much info as it can be of detriment to them. As I said I told everyone 2 new devices would be announced and then the story on here of 2 new devices came after. The 16g and 3G was alwasy going to happen knob head as the touch has 16bg now and Japan wont have a GSM device as NTTDOCOMO only supports UMTS.

Grow up and put the dummy back in your mouth homes!
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post #115 of 230
12/29/07 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Its not 1 new iphone but 2. And they are being made at a different factory. Why would I possibley spill too much info to satisfy your needs just becasue "you dont want me starting rumors". What are you a friggin mod? I didnt see anyone tell me off when I first brought this news to the table, infact it was quite a few weeks after I said there would be 2 new devices that the same news was reported on here as an article. The only clue that I can give is that both these phones will be made at Quanta technologies instead Foxlink in China where they are currently made. Why dont you go down there, maybe they will show you one as many are being made now lol When people leak info you either say thankyou or shut up ad not say anything, insiders dont give out too much info as it can be of detriment to them. As I said I told everyone 2 new devices would be announced and then the story on here of 2 new devices came after. The 16g and 3G was alwasy going to happen knob head as the touch has 16bg now and Japan wont have a GSM device as NTTDOCOMO only supports UMTS.

Grow up and put the dummy back in your mouth homes!

You're still making a fool of yourself. You ever notice the "anonymous mailer" link at the top of the page? Here's a great way to build cred: state something, wait a week or 2, then let AI know about it. People didn't tell you off because it seemed plausible. A nano iphone has been speculated for months. Hell, even MacLife has a few mockups of Apple devices this month.

I KNOW that the iPhone will go to 16gb and that it will be a 3G phone. Those aren't really speculation. Time shows that the memory will double and Jobs has said something about the 3G. The point that I was making is that those are not anything fresh. Also, if Apple were to change suppliers, it would obviously go to Quanta, who has been bidding for months for the position. It is like saying that Sirius and XM are trying to merger. Of course it will eventually happen if they keep trying. Quanta is the largest PC manufacturer. They are capable of doing so if they REALLY want to. That is old news (see May article on AI), you are no insider. I will take personal joy in calling you out again in 17 days for the idiot you are. Enjoy your glory until then...hope you have a fresh ID picked out for your new AI account because you will be losing some respect real soon here.
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post #116 of 230
12/29/07 at 1:52pm
We shall see.

But you stll didnt say anything for the fact that I said there would be 2 devices in 2008 and the story was posted here after?
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post #117 of 230
12/29/07 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

We shall see.

But you stll didnt say anything for the fact that I said there would be 2 devices in 2008 and the story was posted here after?

This article:


http://www.macrumors.com/2007/07/19/...nano-for-real/

cites this article:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._holidays.html


What is JUST after the holiday season? MWSF. Other than the constantly updated MB and once with the iMac, PowerMac, and MBP, Apple has not released anything post-October. They have NEVER since 2000 released a product in December. It only makes sense that they COULD release the nano in January if it is in the works. Has this helped the idea that the iPhone will be updated (release #1) and the iPhone Nano (release #2) could both come out in 2008? If not, are you saying that the lineup will be a 3-item lineup?

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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

Iphone 2 (3g version) will be announed in jan 08 and will be released Q4 08 to conincide with Nokias touch screen flagship model as well as SEs P5.

If anything else we could just wait 10 months for when you expect the iPhone 2 to be released until this is all long gone and your stupidity is hidden pages down in the forums. With the rate of technological advancement, to announce a product and its features 10 MONTHS before its release will give the competitors time to match the "new features" in their own devices. The next time a fresh iPhone is released, it will be available within a month of the announcement. The only thing that the FCC must monitor is the radio device. Jobs has told us that a 3G is coming, so it will take no surprise out of our lives when we see the leaked FCC report. No reason to wait 10 months for something you have now.
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post #118 of 230
12/29/07 at 2:19pm
All shall be revealed on the 15th! Till then keep your mouth shut Columbo.
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post #119 of 230
12/29/07 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by bavlondon2 View Post

All shall be revealed on the 15th! Till then keep your mouth shut Columbo.

Good NBC allusion to my detective work. I love how it flows. Telling me to shut my mouth doesn't diminish the fact that I have shown you how easy it would be to gather your information and that you have given nothing new. Also, what shall we see on the 15th if the two items will be released throughout 2008? Will we see both announced? Will we wait until Q4 for the 3G announced on January 15th like you previously claimed? The whole world will soon mock the name bavlondon2
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12/29/07 at 2:26pm
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