Originally Posted by SDW2001
The problem is I'm not sure that outcome can be proven. There is something to be said for it having the opposite effect..in that you're taking away guns from mostly law abiding folks.
You have swerved into the truth.
On the other hand, a large number of guns used in crime come from LEGAL sources. Getting a good data point is difficult, but the numbers I have seen are as high as 50%. This is due to trafficking and secondary sales.
It's time to shut down gun dealers (less than 1% of them) that consistently violate FFL and ATF rules. Put them the hell out of business if they cannot obey the law. No quarrel there.
There are also many accidents, in the tens of thousands per year.
OK, SDW... join the NRA... the LARGEST gun safety organization in the nation. We train more people in a year in gun safety than Brady has ever trained. Eddie Eagle programs for kids. First Steps programs for new gun owners. I, and many like me, teach hundreds of hours of FREE gun safety per year.
So in the end, I don't know that I buy the argument that "an armed American populace is safer and less violent." It seems to me that reducing the number of handguns significantly would also lower violence. I'd think that this would need to be coupled with stiff penalties for possession and aggressive policing of the black market.
Here are some... not to you specifically...
Reducing the number of handguns disproportionally takes them out of the hands of people who obey the law... thus giving criminals the advantage. How many times do we have to go over victim disarmament? Take all the free time you guys seem to have and do the right thing... It is time for STIFF punishments for the misuse of firearms. I mean every time a gun is involved in a crime it should be a mandatory stiff sentence.
I just wonder... if all of those who are so gung-ho for disarming everyone would actually grow a pair, take a stand, and punish criminals who use guns, and not try to disarm law abiding people, what kind of society we would have. It's an intellectually vacuous quick-fix to use the Feinstein Line- "Take Em All Up." Have the courage to deal with the problem- criminals. You cannot take them all up... it will take decades of disarmed law abiding people before you guys even put a dent in criminal possession. In that time... watch the crime rate soar... just like the UK and Australia. Start sending felons in possession to prison, start sending NICS denied-felons to prison, start dealing with criminals who break the law... I know that is hard for many of you.
Me and my gun are not the problem. The asshole who misuses his gun is the problem. Fuck with him. Stop fucking with the rest of us, who are honest, law-abiding citizens, who want a decent chance to prevail against the criminal element. I make a living in a dangerous business... and many of you here think I should have to go join the National Guard to be able to protect my livelihood and family. Well... fuck that and anyone who thinks that.
Criminals do not give two shits about your pathetic attempt at "gun control" - all you are doing is disarming the good guys who follow and respect the law. Start sending people who commit ANY CRIME with a gun to jail for 15 years mandatory, and watch the problem be hugely reduced.