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post #81 of 118
ATT isn't in any trouble, Jobs has already given this information a number of times. AT the UK launch he said the iPhone would have 3G by late '08
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Originally Posted by xtrmtrk View Post

I've been an Apple owner/fan since 1981 and have owned dozens if not hundreds of Apple products.

Buddy, there's a big, big difference between "dozens" and "hundreds".

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post #83 of 118
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Then write it! Adobe apparently doesn't care enough about Flash to create a viable version for cell phones or OS X, much less the iPhone.

I personally have no love for Java or Flash. I'm glad Apple isn't muddling the iPhone with such crappy software.

Unfortunately, many sites use flash and java. My favorite is nfl.com and sportsillustrated.com
post #84 of 118
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Originally Posted by Gizmo-xl View Post

You can do all of this by email without the SMS cost.

See http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/97158

Send a message to your friend's mobile-phone-number-based email address and it'll get delivered as an SMS text message. Attach a picture to that email and it'll get delivered to your friend's mobile phone as an MMS message. Voila! You now have an MMS messaging equivalent. If only there was a nice and convenient compilation of wireless carriers' mobile phone email addresses. Hmmm. You mean like this?

Alltel = xxxxxxxxxx@message.alltel.com
AT&T = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.att.net
Boost Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@myboostmobile.com
Cingular (AT&T) = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.mycingular.com
Einstein PCS = xxxxxxxxxx@einsteinmms.com
Sprint = xxxxxxxxxx@messaging.sprintpcs.com
T-Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@tmomail.net
US Cellular = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.uscc.net
Verizon Wireless = xxxxxxxxxx@vzwpix.com
Virgin Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@vmobl.com

Or you can send to any/all of these by simply emailing xxx-xxx-xxxx@teleflip.com! (Try it out).
post #85 of 118
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Originally Posted by S10 View Post

3G is highly overrated. People buy 3G phones because they think it is so much better and then complain about the ridiculous costs and the terrible battery life of their phones...

I would love to see some figures on how many people who have a 3G phone actually use anything on the phone that require 3G.. from what I hear from my Euro friends, once they had their 3G phones for 2 or 3 weeks, or whenever they received their first bill, their opinion on 3G changed drastically.

Ok.

I'm in the UK. I have a 3G phone: a Nokia N73 on a T-Mobile Flext 18 month contract which I recently upgraded to. For £32 per month I get £34 'Flext allowance' which I can use on texts, MMS or voice/video calls and unlimited Internet access on either on the phone itself or on my Macbook, using the phone as a modem via Bluetooth. A reasonable deal I think.

3G coverage is generally good and I've found I can use my laptop on the move pretty much as I do at home: Web browsing, e-mail, downloading, video streaming, whatever. Indeed, I was sat on the train to Leeds the other week, flying through the countryside at 125mph, with a perfectly stable connection - happily browsing a friends photo album of their recent holiday pictures while downloading a new Paralells beta.

I wish I'd upgraded sooner. And until I can do the above with an iPhone, forking out the extortionate price Apple/O2 are asking for it won't even be considered.
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Originally Posted by Gizmo-xl View Post

You can do all of this by email without the SMS cost.

See http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/97158

Send a message to your friend's mobile-phone-number-based email address and it'll get delivered as an SMS text message. Attach a picture to that email and it'll get delivered to your friend's mobile phone as an MMS message. Voila! You now have an MMS messaging equivalent. If only there was a nice and convenient compilation of wireless carriers' mobile phone email addresses. Hmmm. You mean like this?

Alltel = xxxxxxxxxx@message.alltel.com
AT&T = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.att.net
Boost Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@myboostmobile.com
Cingular (AT&T) = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.mycingular.com
Einstein PCS = xxxxxxxxxx@einsteinmms.com
Sprint = xxxxxxxxxx@messaging.sprintpcs.com
T-Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@tmomail.net
US Cellular = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.uscc.net
Verizon Wireless = xxxxxxxxxx@vzwpix.com
Virgin Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@vmobl.com

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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Or you can send to any/all of these by simply emailing xxx-xxx-xxxx@teleflip.com! (Try it out).

I have just submitted a hint to MacOSXHints.com with both Teleflip and the various carrier email-to-sms addresses.
I've also included this AppleScript code I found on the web for parsing mobile numbers in Address Book for use on Macs and iPhones.

Code:

tell application "Address Book"
repeat with this_person in every person
set the_number to ""
repeat with i from 1 to the count of phone in this_person
if label of phone [i] of this_person as string is "Mobile" then
set the_number to value of phone [i] of this_person as string
end if
end repeat
if the_number is not "" then
set isAlreadySet to "0"
repeat with i from 1 to the count of email in this_person
if (value of email [i] of this_person as string) ends with "@teleflip.com" then
set isAlreadySet to "1"
end if
end repeat
if isAlreadySet is "0" then
make new email at end of emails of this_person with properties {label:"other", value:my stripSymbolsAddEmail(the_number)}
end if
end if
end repeat
end tell

on stripSymbolsAddEmail(inputText)
set theSymbols to "().- "

set prevTids to AppleScript's text item delimiters
repeat with i in theSymbols
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to i
set inputText to inputText's text items
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to prevTids
set inputText to inputText as text
end repeat
if character 1 of inputText is not "1" then
set inputText to ("1" & inputText)
end if
set inputText to (inputText & "@teleflip.com")
inputText
end stripSymbolsAddEmail
--> thanks to http://applescriptsourcebook.com/viewtopic.php?pid=47366 for this part!

Source: http://whenderson.blogspot.com/2007/...addresses.html
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post #87 of 118
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Originally Posted by S10 View Post

3G is highly overrated. People buy 3G phones because they think it is so much better and then complain about the ridiculous costs and the terrible battery life of their phones...

I would love to see some figures on how many people who have a 3G phone actually use anything on the phone that require 3G.. from what I hear from my Euro friends, once they had their 3G phones for 2 or 3 weeks, or whenever they received their first bill, their opinion on 3G changed drastically.

Similar story to Phlip - I've a Nokia N80, had it for coming on 18 months, my region is almost totally 3G covered (as opposed to about 5% EDGE coverage ). I'm paying 25/month for 120MB web access + 250txt + 250min. So I use 3G all the time for web browsing, stock trades and instant messaging.

My opinion certainly hasn't changed on it, I haven't paid any extra for 3G, I don't get any separate 3G bill and I've never heard of this practice, it's always charged here at either a flat rate or a per-Mb rate regardless of current network signal type.

Battery life is "OK". My N80 will go 2.5 days without a charge BUT if I'm online (e.g. running an IM application, so low data usage but constantly connected to the 3G network) it'll only last a few hours. Annoyed me at first but soon got used to throwing the phone onto the charger at every opportunity.

One observation I do have about 3G and my N80 is that the N80 doesn't appear to be fast enough to handle / render the web pages... It still takes maybe 30 seconds to display the BBC News home page on my N80, both over 3G and I get similar speeds over my own Wi-Fi to my 8Mb broadband. So having a faster connection won't necessarily mean you can browse faster.\
post #88 of 118
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Originally Posted by Gizmo-xl View Post

You can do all of this by email without the SMS cost.

See http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/97158

Send a message to your friend's mobile-phone-number-based email address and it'll get delivered as an SMS text message. Attach a picture to that email and it'll get delivered to your friend's mobile phone as an MMS message. Voila! You now have an MMS messaging equivalent. If only there was a nice and convenient compilation of wireless carriers' mobile phone email addresses. Hmmm. You mean like this?

Alltel = xxxxxxxxxx@message.alltel.com
AT&T = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.att.net
Boost Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@myboostmobile.com
Cingular (AT&T) = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.mycingular.com
Einstein PCS = xxxxxxxxxx@einsteinmms.com
Sprint = xxxxxxxxxx@messaging.sprintpcs.com
T-Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@tmomail.net
US Cellular = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.uscc.net
Verizon Wireless = xxxxxxxxxx@vzwpix.com
Virgin Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@vmobl.com

Thanks! The effort is appreciated!... although its not as elegant as Apple simply adding (and it should be simple) the feature to text multiple parties at once, and add a forward text capability to SMS. SMS is quicker.. sending and receiving, but you have presented an alternative for users of the iPhone.
post #89 of 118
Quick question.. a mate has indicated that he couldn't browse on EDGE and still receive a call while in the act of browsing? Is this just an issue for UK users i.e. the O2 network?
post #90 of 118
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Originally Posted by BlackSummerNight View Post

Saying 3G (875K) isn't much faster than Edge (~100K) is not true. You must not have 3G.

In Europe the problem is generally that if you get 3G you can get HSDPA speeds. 3G coverage is excellent. If you can't get 3G then it usually drops back to normal GPRS speeds, not EDGE since we skipped EDGE mostly. Only for the iPhone have O2 started retro fitting EDGE to their old 2G services. So you have a choice of 3.84Mbps or 9.6Kbps. Hmmm.


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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

How do you really describe incomplete? No one phone has everything. The iPhone has some features that most other phones don't. Other phones have some features that the iPhone doesn't. Some phones have a lot of features that are difficult to use. Which one can you really describe as complete?

No, no one phone has everything but the iPhone is missing some very basic features that phones have had for 3-4 years at least and that people expect, regardless of the hardware. You could argue that those features should be consigned to the scrap bin of history but in the real world 99% of the population are still using phones that use those features so actually letting iPhone users communicate with them might be good idea still.


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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

What evidence do you have of this? I bought the iPhone in its second week of sales and everything worked fine. Over these months the only app that needed a lot of stability improvement was Safari. It used to crash frequently. Now after firmware updates I rarely notice it crashing.

To me it seems like Apple have concentrated on shipping a subset of features in a highly polished form and bug free rather than all the features on the checklist but with bugs. That's sensible software development if you want to ship on time. Subsequently though they've not been too forthcoming with the extra features if they were indeed struck off the list for release day.


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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Which model phone has a disk mode and the equivalent of a finder?

All the Symbian based phones I've had or used in the last 4 years! IIRC WinMo does disk mode too.

And then you've had 3rd party replacements too like the excellent SMan.


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Originally Posted by Gizmo-xl View Post

You can do all of this by email without the SMS cost.

See http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/97158

Send a message to your friend's mobile-phone-number-based email address and it'll get delivered as an SMS text message. Attach a picture to that email and it'll get delivered to your friend's mobile phone as an MMS message. Voila!

Nice of you to use french at the end there. This of course doesn't work in Europe, including France, where the sender has to pay the charge for SMS/MMS, not the recipient so those services would be committing commercial suicide here allowing email to SMS gateways for free.
post #91 of 118
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Originally Posted by Hogan View Post

Quick question.. a mate has indicated that he couldn't browse on EDGE and still receive a call while in the act of browsing? Is this just an issue for UK users i.e. the O2 network?

No, it's a 'feature' of the iPhone and particular tower configurations. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. Happens in the USA with AT&T too.
post #92 of 118
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Originally Posted by mxsweb View Post

This might be another reason why the iPhone is delayed in Canada. Rogers started to roll out new 3G services across the country this fall.

CBC French interviewed back in August 07 Sylvie Charette, Rogers,

"This technology (3G) that faster will grant us access to different services and faster data rates for Internet and of course, it will carry a new tarification to bring the accessibility even bigger."


Link:
http://www.radio-canada.ca/audio-vid...ROGERS07_m.asx


The other report said that Canada is expected to get the iPhone on Jan 18, '08 with Rogers Wireless. I seriously doubt a 3G iPhone will be out by then, and I seriously doubt it would be introduced in Canada first, or even simultaneously, as one in the U.S.

IMHO, that is.
post #93 of 118
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I'm going with September of 2008.

I agree. June at the earliest... and probably September/October.

Hmmm... is that "agreeing" or partially agreeing? he said to himself.

Anyway, no sooner than June is my guess.
post #94 of 118
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Originally Posted by CREB View Post

I agree as I have 3G, and it is not all that much better, or faster.

The thing is that it totally depends on what phone you are using, what network you are on, where you are, etc.

Some people see a huge increase going from 2G to 3G and some people see a slight difference.

It has to do with the hardware, software, network, location, etc. etc. etc.

3G IS faster, in concept, but like anything else, it boils down to execution, which is a huge variable.
post #95 of 118
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

It's not just the phone that needs to have 3G, it also has to be within range of a cell tower that can utilize the hardware. If you don't think 3G is much faster than 2.5G then you aren't near a proper tower.

What he said.
post #96 of 118
Robert X. Cringely chimes in...
AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson this week said what I have been saying since last July -- that Apple and AT&T would soon introduce an iPhone that works with AT&T's faster 3G wireless data network. I said it because I had heard last summer that AT&T was already testing 3G iPhones in Florida, but the better question is why Stephenson said it and why now? For AT&T, his announcement looks, frankly, stupid.

Here's a guy who is head of the largest telephone company in America and its largest mobile phone company. He has a five-year iPhone exclusive giving AT&T the number one selling U.S. smart phone and a huge generator of primo subscribers mainly poached from other carriers. Christmas is a month away and 1-2 million Americans have been planning to give -- or hoping to get -- an iPhone. So what does the guy do? He lets it slip that next year Apple will release a faster iPhone that will make the existing model obsolete. The only impact this can have on current iPhone sales is to stop them in their tracks, unless Apple offers a free 3G upgrade, which believe me they never intended to offer and may not.

So what's up? Was it a simple slip? Or is the guy so out of touch with reality that he doesn't realize that with a few words he has probably deferred -- maybe forever -- at least a million new customers worth to Wall Street at least $1 billion in market cap for his company?

I don't think Stephenson's statement was by accident and I don't think he is out of touch with reality. I think, instead, he was sending a $1 billion message to Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

It is no coincidence that Stephenson made his remarks in Silicon Valley, rather than in San Antonio or New York. He came to the turf of his "partner" and delivered a message that will hurt Apple as much as AT&T, a message that says AT&T doesn't really need Apple despite the iPhone's success.

It's one thing to have a private disagreement between companies but quite another to take it public in a way that costs real money.

What I believe is troubling the relationship between AT&T and Apple is the upcoming auction for 700-MHz wireless spectrum and AT&T's discovery that -- as I have predicted for weeks -- Apple will be joining Google in bidding. AT&T thought its five-year "exclusive" iPhone agreement with Apple would have precluded such a bid, but that just shows how poorly Randall Stephenson understood Steve Jobs. Steve always hurts his friends to see how much they really love him, so AT&T probably should have expected this kind of corporate body blow.

To his credit, Stephenson took the dispute to the streets this way, showing he isn't intimidated by Jobs. It was a bold and rare response for big business and was definitely unexpected by Cupertino, which won't underestimate AT&T again.

I'm not privy to any inside details here, but there are two ways I can see Jobs rationalizing his auction position and they aren't necessarily exclusive. He could claim to intend the 700-MHz auction participation as a pure investment, just a good use for the $30+ billion Apple has squirreled away.

Nah.

Or Jobs could tell AT&T that Apple is investing solely in a DATA network for which it has no voice ambitions. Maybe all MacBooks will soon get 700-MHz access cards.

This excuse rings truer, but of course it would still be a scam on Steve's part.

It would not surprise me at all if this were the case and when the 700-MHz network is finally up and running Jobs claims astonishment that the most popular data application is Voice over IP, a direct competitor to AT&T Wireless. This may be part of the reason why Apple has been so slow approving third-party iPhone applications. Wouldn't your first application be a VoIP client?

Of course to this point Apple hasn't even said it will participate in the 700-MHz auction. Apple has said nothing at all on the subject. I said it and still believe it to be true. And I'd say Randall Stephenson's remarks this week pretty much confirm I was correct.

Now AT&T is going to have to decide whether it is worth $10+ billion to fight Apple, Google, and probable third and fourth partners by bidding, itself, for the spectrum, which it wouldn't otherwise have done.

A similar decision will have to be made by Verizon Wireless, which this week applied ITS reality distortion field to trying to make us believe the second-largest U.S. mobile operator actually intends to open its wireless network to non-Verizon devices and services.

Yeah, right.

Verizon's move is straight from the playbook of the old AT&T back in the 1970s, when that company was trying to keep third-party telephone handsets from being connected to its network. If you are old enough you may remember AT&T expressed great fear back then that telephones not from its Western Electric subsidiary (now Alcatel-Lucent) would somehow "damage" the telephone network. It was the same excuse used to keep old guys like me from wearing jeans in high school.

We will, no doubt, see similar behavior from Verizon as it slowly releases network interface specifications then embarks on a certification program that will surprisingly reject as incompatible a lot of perfectly fine mobile phones. But this is months or even years away. The company's intent right now is to show the appearance of motion.

The appearance of motion: it's sad, wouldn't you say, when this is what American business has come to.


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post #97 of 118
Mr. Cringeley's thoughts are no better or worse than the collection of thoughts on this web site or many others. Some facts. Some conjecture. Some personal hopes. Some generalizations.

He is right in some of his thoughts. He MAY be right in some other of his thoughts. And he MAY be wrong in some of his thoughts.

Just like... well... a lot of the facts, thoughts, conjecture, generalizations, etc. that we see in your normal everyday public forum!

IMHO...

(I always like to add that in case I'm wrong about something, so I can say it was only my "opinion", humble as it may be... )
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Originally Posted by GregoriusM View Post

Mr. Cringeley's thoughts are no better or worse than the collection of thoughts on this web site or many others. Some facts. Some conjecture. Some personal hopes. Some generalizations.

I agree. This is one of my favorite sites because the posters here tend to cover all aspects of facual knowledge, speculative creativity and general wisdom.

Cringely has been off the past tear or two. This is the frist article in a long time seems like the old Cringely and not some rambling thoughts of a senile old man.
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post #99 of 118
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

I don't regret ordering the present 8GB model (270). I'm going to let that tied me over until there's a 32GB HSDPA version in 2009.

sorry now, where did u get an iphone in ireland for 270 euro?? and was it sim free?? please reply asap!!
post #100 of 118
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Apple Inc. will introduce a version of the iPhone next year that can download from the Internet at a rate much faster than the existing version, AT&T Inc. chief executive Randall Stephenson confirmed Wednesday.

"You'll have it next year," he said, explaining that he was unaware of how much more the new version will cost than the existing $399 model because Apple chief executive Steve Jobs "will dictate what the price of the phone is.''

Ouch!! What a nice business partner to have, "Hey, hold off on your purchase people, you don't want to buy an iPhone at this time".

Meanwhile Apple losses millions in sales. Nice! Really nice.
post #101 of 118
Apple may have a case against at&t to end the business relation. at&t has caused irreparable harm to Apple's business!

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post #102 of 118
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at&t has caused irreparable harm to Apple's business!

Jobs already said this at the UK launch on September 18.

If you were waiting for a 3G iPhone, unfortunately you're going to have to keep on waiting--Jobs says we'll see it "later next year."
post #103 of 118
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

Jobs already said this at the UK launch on September 18.[/url]

At the UK, implying... at UK not USA.

I know of one person in my group of friends who was about to get an iPhone and changed his mind after hearing in the news that a "faster iPhone will be available early next year."
post #104 of 118
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I don't regret ordering the present 8GB model (€270). I'm going to let that tied me over until there's a 32GB HSDPA version in 2009.

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post #105 of 118
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

I don't regret ordering the present 8GB model (€270). I'm going to let that tied me over until there's a 32GB HSDPA version in 2009.

ireland, where did u get the iPhone for 270 euro? and was it sim free? reply asap!!
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post #106 of 118
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Originally Posted by iPeon View Post

At the UK, implying... at UK not USA.

I know of one person in my group of friends who was about to get an iPhone and changed his mind after hearing in the news that a "faster iPhone will be available early next year."

That'll be alongside all off Apples other UK only products then?

Have Apple ever given another territory a product that wasn't already available in the US?
post #107 of 118
Suppose I were to purchase an iPhone now, and then when the new one is released, buy the AT&T theft and damage insurance for a month (it's like $5/month)... one of my friends accidentally breaks my iPhone, and then I get a new iPhone...
post #108 of 118
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Originally Posted by Jemster View Post

That'll be alongside all off Apples other UK only products then?

Have Apple ever given another territory a product that wasn't already available in the US?

We are talking about a cell phone. AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.
post #109 of 118
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AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.

The 3G iPhone will be for everyone not only the UK. ATT has had 3G in the major US cities for awhile now. It isn't available in all ATT coverage area.
post #110 of 118
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Originally Posted by iPeon View Post

We are talking about a cell phone. AT&T, the carrier for the iPhone in the USA is just now implementing a 3G network. The iPhone's carrier in Europe already has a 3G network in place, hence the need to let customers in that area know that a 3G model is coming.

Ah, there you go applying logic when actual evidence suggests the opposite.

Your handset is only capable of EDGE. There's only two networks in the UK with EDGE currently - Orange (because they're always ahead of the pack on tech so still have a creaky old EDGE network as fallback) and T-mobile (partly). Who do you pick - the one with no EDGE network until a couple of weeks before the iPhone, that has trouble outside the M25.

You're entering a territory with an extensive, mature 3G network. Do you release a 3G phone? No, you release a 6 month old phone, 2 years too late.

You're looking for a network with strong data capabilities and tariffs such as T-mobile. Do you pick them - no, you pick the network with the most expensive data tariff.

Do you pick the network that doesn't mind shafting it's customers just so it can make a pact with the devil? Yes, they'll do.

Bonus for picking the only one whose website doesn't work well in Safari.
post #111 of 118
I'm thinking Apple picked the one that would do business with Apple for the maximum profit for Apple, but then I would be using logic again.
post #112 of 118
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Originally Posted by iPeon View Post

I'm thinking Apple picked the one that would do business with Apple for the maximum profit for Apple, but then I would be using logic again.

That would appear to not be the case though if the lack lustre sales are anything to go by.
post #113 of 118
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Originally Posted by aegisdesign View Post

Ah, there you go applying logic when actual evidence suggests the opposite.

Your handset is only capable of EDGE. There's only two networks in the UK with EDGE currently - Orange (because they're always ahead of the pack on tech so still have a creaky old EDGE network as fallback) and T-mobile (partly). Who do you pick - the one with no EDGE network until a couple of weeks before the iPhone, that has trouble outside the M25.

You're entering a territory with an extensive, mature 3G network. Do you release a 3G phone? No, you release a 6 month old phone, 2 years too late.

You're looking for a network with strong data capabilities and tariffs such as T-mobile. Do you pick them - no, you pick the network with the most expensive data tariff.

Do you pick the network that doesn't mind shafting it's customers just so it can make a pact with the devil? Yes, they'll do.

Bonus for picking the only one whose website doesn't work well in Safari.

I have to agree with this. O2 was a very strange choice for Apple and very limiting for consumers. It was Apple's choice.

My assumption is that O2 was the only carrier willing to share revenues at such a high level with Apple, and that was the key driver for Apple.
post #114 of 118
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

The 3G iPhone will be for everyone not only the UK. ATT has had 3G in the major US cities for awhile now. It isn't available in all ATT coverage area.

I'm not even in what I'd consider a major city (although many big insurers call this town home) and I have 3G coverage through ATT.
post #115 of 118
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Originally Posted by aegisdesign View Post

That would appear to not be the case though if the lack lustre sales are anything to go by.

Could it mostly be that consumers are waiting for the 3G iPhone since they know one is coming?
post #116 of 118
Screw 3G, I'm waiting for something that's actually useful, a built in isight.
post #117 of 118
I had an iPhone and returned it because EDGE was awful

I got a Blackberry Pearl from Verizon and returned it because it would not connect to secure sites

(HTTPS sites) without having an enterprise server---

BUT the speed on the EVDO network was great--as was Verizon's customer service---

I am soooo unhappy that Apple didn't go with Verizon--

I think that 3G with ATT may end up being a disappointment.
post #118 of 118
The "musts" for me are 3G and at least 16GB, preferably 32. I'd also like a video camera and picture pix messaging. Really though, the only thing holding me up is the 3G. I refuse to spend $400+ Verizon's termination fee to have the EDGE network. Get on the stick, jobs. My $400 is yours as soon as you release the product.
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