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post #121 of 141
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11"? Wow, okay, I guess im not a sub-notebook kind of guy. I dont understand why people want such a small screen to do stuffs. Surfing the web means more scrolling, you get a small screen to watch DVD's and you are spending quite a lot for a notebook that can only do office documents, oh yeah and dont let me start on gaming.
Sorry if I offended anyone with this post. Im just stating my opinion.

11" with a long battery is nice because then your laptop can become an after thought. Right now my 15" mbp feels huge and everytime I take it with me I gotta think about it and consider it, it's not a small item I can just chuck in a bag, I need to bring a full on backpack or notebook bag or something.

I finally saw the eeepc the other day and it's size killed me, it was amazing. One thing that sucked was the waste of screen bezel because of speakers, they probably could have fit a 10" in there instead of 7".

But if the apple unit was diagonally an inch longer than the eeepc and the screen took up the whole space that'd be perfect. When I take it places I could just hold it like a book, just pop it in a sleeve and go.

Roadwarriors would need something bigger and beefier but that already exists for them, I've come to realize that most people don't do much other than surf, email, take notes, or watch videos when out with their notebooks, I do a ton of editing but when I'm mobile even I find I don't need all that power.

11" would be awesome.
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post #122 of 141
Ecking gets it.

This is basically shaping up to be a great machine for using on planes and for the accompanying business. Anything that requires serious content creation (of any kind) gets done prior to the trip. The rest of the time is just spent making little corrections, conducting email, or doing similar things like that. If this thing delivers the way I hope it will be, it could also be a trojan horse for getting more Apples into corporate IT budgets. The Intel switch helped a lot, and now they need to go to the next step.
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post #123 of 141
just curious but how could this not be less than 13"? Otherwise it's just a thinner macbook without an optical drive. what's all the excitement about? Even if it's 12" so what. 10" or at the max 11" but with some touch screen features and I'd understand the hype.
post #124 of 141
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just curious but how could this not be less than 13"? Otherwise it's just a thinner macbook without an optical drive. what's all the excitement about? Even if it's 12" so what. 10" or at the max 11" but with some touch screen features and I'd understand the hype.

I'm not sure what is the minimum screen size that can take a normal size keyboard. If there is very little bezel, 13.3" might be it.
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post #125 of 141
The 12" Powerbook had a normal size keyboard and that wasn't even widescreen. An 11" widescreen LCD could easily be the same width. In fact, if my calculations are right, a 10" LCD with a 16:10 widescreen aspect ratio is exactly the same width as a 12" 4:3 LCD.
post #126 of 141
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The 12" Powerbook had a normal size keyboard and that wasn't even widescreen. An 11" widescreen LCD could easily be the same width. In fact, if my calculations are right, a 10" LCD with a 16:10 widescreen aspect ratio is exactly the same width as a 12" 4:3 LCD.

ok so there you have it. If it's not 10" or less it's not worth the hype unless you don't currently have a Mac laptop. For anyone else who has a Mac laptop unless you got cash to burn or are frivolous with your money I don't think many people would be buying a "new sub-notebook" if it is 12" or 13" (without an optical drive to boot). No pun intended :P I mean really what would be the point in upgrading.

Ok so did I answer my own question? This new fandangled notebook is for wanna be OS X switchers?
post #127 of 141
the fact is we aren't sure and if apple insider says 13.3 screen, that's my story and im sticking to it!
post #128 of 141
I just a new message that read:

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Until I noticed that I had resized my Mail window.

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post #129 of 141
If its anything like the sony vaio 11.1"....but thinner.....count me in.
post #130 of 141
Bringing the discussion back to the SSD thing.

I think that would be sweet.... but check this out

over $3K for a samsung 128

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820609245

EH! idk I guess apple will be able to get them cheaper obviously... but will there be an option of the bigger drive or will it only be the 64?
post #131 of 141
does anyone think this is going to push down macbook prices? Or are they just going to drop the black macbook?
post #132 of 141
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Bringing the discussion back to the SSD thing.

I think that would be sweet.... but check this out

over $3K for a samsung 128

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820609245

EH! idk I guess apple will be able to get them cheaper obviously... but will there be an option of the bigger drive or will it only be the 64?

This has been repeatedly mentioned but you simply can't go by the price of a SSD from the like of Samsung (or anybody else) as this has nothing to do with the cost of the parts to Apple. Further Apple has the potential of a number of implementations including their own custom silicon. Also along the line of one more thing, Apple has a unique relationship with its FLASH suppliers.

In any event the cost of storage won't be a limiting factor in build one of these for sub $1500.


Dave
post #133 of 141
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Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post

I just a new message that read:

Apple sub-notebook to retail for $1

Until I noticed that I had resized my Mail window.

Oh, well.

Isn't that realasation the worst?
post #134 of 141
I'm buying a brown Zune. Man, I can't wait.
post #135 of 141
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This has been repeatedly mentioned but you simply can't go by the price of a SSD from the like of Samsung (or anybody else) as this has nothing to do with the cost of the parts to Apple. Further Apple has the potential of a number of implementations including their own custom silicon. Also along the line of one more thing, Apple has a unique relationship with its FLASH suppliers.

In any event the cost of storage won't be a limiting factor in build one of these for sub $1500.


Dave

Of course it does. Apple hasn't invested heavily into SSD to guarantee a discount like it has done for the iPod line.
post #136 of 141
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Of course it does. Apple hasn't invested heavily into SSD to guarantee a discount like it has done for the iPod line.

Just where do you get the idea that there is a difference? Flash is Flash! Sure there are speed grades and process variations but do you really think they will be using a different form of Flash.

The controller is an issue for sure. But Apple has options here for interfacing the flash to the processor bus. One option is a custom controller. Do note that Apple just recently submitted a bunch of patents related to different flash technologies. It is not like there is a vacuum over California sucking the engineering talent out of the state you know. Well there is a sucking sound over California but I think that is due to the Hollywood set.

The only thing that makes a SSD a SSD drive is the controller chip communicating with the CPU. In effect it is the interface between the Flash chips and the I/O bus. That I/O bus can be just about anything, SATA, PCI Express, USB, Firewire and what have you. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple went straight to the PCI Express port on the I/O controller.


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post #137 of 141
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I'm buying a brown Zune. Man, I can't wait.

I hope your joking
post #138 of 141
The idea behind a ultra portable is actually "ultra-light-weight". Apple's going to dump as much as possible. we're talking everything off it. This is for the day tripper, not somebody who needs their primary machine. I personally tote around two 15" MacBook Pros into San Francisco every single day + accessories power adapters, and survival gear, ends up around 38lbs of bullcrap. While my case is extreme for reasons I won't explain... I will jump on the ultra-portable having owned a duo.

Apple's going to make the portable no thicker than an REAL notebook pad, and super light weight. I don't want a 10" notebook novelty. 13 inch is barely big enough to get business done on and i don't care if the screen is 17 inches as long as it weights 2lbs.

Optical drive will be gone (i'd rip them out of my 15" macbook pros if I could),

The only thing you will be getting is ethernet, video out. Possibly connections through a dock pad.
post #139 of 141
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I'm buying a brown Zune. Man, I can't wait.

You are awesome. Thanks for adding comic relief to the thead.
post #140 of 141
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This has been repeatedly mentioned but you simply can't go by the price of a SSD from the like of Samsung (or anybody else) as this has nothing to do with the cost of the parts to Apple. Further Apple has the potential of a number of implementations including their own custom silicon. Also along the line of one more thing, Apple has a unique relationship with its FLASH suppliers.

In any event the cost of storage won't be a limiting factor in build one of these for sub $1500.


Dave

Apple hasn't made any such SSD heavy investments and it has to post these for it's stock holders.
post #141 of 141
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Apple hasn't made any such SSD heavy investments and it has to post these for it's stock holders.

They have invested in flash production. Both with their suppliers and internally with respect to R&D, which is known to the public. In any event you missed the whole point a SSD is nothing more than Flash and a controller chip. The high prices realized with respect to solid state disks is the result of larger profits. There is nothing to keep Apple from delivering a Flash storage solution with its own custom silicon at a reasonable price.
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