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Originally Posted by MusLtngBlue View Post

All I have to say is Apple must be laughing at us crazies trying to pin down what their simple phrase means!

They can laugh all they want, I don't give a shit.
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Originally Posted by madeincupertino View Post

I haven't seen anyone mention this so far but this is a concept i came up with a couple of years ago --

a problem right now with the ipods is in the house, you need to be "at the ipod" -- mostly likely standing up and off of your couch -- to change songs, artists, etc...

even CD player systems have solved this problem a long time ago -- i have a 51 CD changer with remote.

with the ipod, there is no remote.

the solution is that the ipod, itself, becomes a sort of remote except the songs are stored on the ipod.

the songs or videos get streamed to your airport express, apple TV... maybe even your car decks if apple goes in that direction.

Sorry, but what on earth are you talking about? An iPod is a portable media player. It's meant to be in your pocket, or beside you. Why do you have to stand up to change the song on it? You don't even have to sync it if you have one big enough for your whole collection, beating out the CD-Changer significantly. (Incidentally, your CD-Changer could be replaced with an iPod Classic and provide twice (80) to four times (160) as much playback even if you preserved the original CD audio quality.

Are you talking about speaker systems for iPods? Good iPod Speaker systems have remotes. Cheaper ones do not, but you get what you pay for.

If I'm reading right, you're proposing replacing iPod Dock Connector with Daniel Eran's "Bonjour Express" idea. Honestly, I can't see the point. AppleTV works on a similar principle to get media from the PC, but what's the point in sacrificing iPod battery life simply because you want the speakers on the other side of the room from the iPod because you didn't buy a speaker system with a Remote?

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They can laugh all they want, I don't give a shit.


Yes you do. Don't lie!
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Yes you do. Don't lie!

No lie.
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post #285 of 385
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Originally Posted by MusLtngBlue View Post

All I have to say is Apple must be laughing at us crazies trying to pin down what their simple phrase means!

Especially since last time we did that, the phrase meant nothing.

Remember "The beat goes on"?

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Especially since last time we did that, the phrase meant nothing.

Remember "The beat goes on"?

Ah, yes, the iPod event that never resulted anything to do with the Beatles.

That could very well be the outcome this time, as well. By the way, didn't AI get a report that the sub-notebook project isn't ripe for release yet? On the other hand, those Adium hits are pretty compelling... we shall see...
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Perhaps the new ultra-light portable(s) will have internet access everywhere via cell networks.

Perhaps the Myriad ultra-light typeface is indicative of how the new ultra-light portables will be branded. Putting a cellular interface in it would be very cool. Would it be tied to at&t? Probably.
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Originally Posted by MusLtngBlue View Post

Ah, yes, the iPod event that never resulted anything to do with the Beatles.

That could very well be the outcome this time, as well. By the way, didn't AI get a report that the sub-notebook project isn't ripe for release yet? On the other hand, those Adium hits are pretty compelling... we shall see...

Nah, they got word that the alleged Tablet Mac had been delayed. That said, some claim the two are the same.

Me, I hope not. I really want this

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Check out one of the YouTube videos. Vista does cursive, which InkWell doesn't do, and Vista's app seems to be much more accurate.

1) Newton did cursive. They have the algorithms, if they want to use them.

2) You're confusing HW recog accuracy with usability. Unless the methodology for going from ink to final text placement has *drastically* changed in Vista, and is available to all apps, all the time, anywhere, then it isn't as useful as InkWell has been.

I spent six weeks with my right arm immobilized, but was able to continue working very effectively by tossing a cheap Wacom tablet into my workflow (mounted at the end of my arm brace). It replaced the mouse and text entry without a problem. This was after trying a dedicated tablet computer running XP, and having nothing but frustration. *If* you were running an app that was already made 'aware' of handwriting recognition, it worked okay, but you couldn't use it as a *general* replacement for the keyboard without quite a few contortions. As usual from MS, it was an afterthought, not something that was well integrated with the system as a whole.

*That* is the number one reason, IMO, why they've failed consistently at tablets - they still want to treat pen input as something to just slap in there, and use it to sell more apps. "Now with Windows Live Pen Input 2008!" It needs to be as invisible and natural to use with any app as the keyboard. InkWell has gotten closest to that so far... I haven't used Vista's pen input, but I've spoken with those who have, and in their estimation, it hasn't changed appreciably from XP's workflow.
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My kids play with an old Newton Message Pad 100. They get a kick out of writing something (print or cursive) and watching it translated into silly words. They also enjoy playing games on their DS Lites. But when it comes productive use; neither touch nor tablet is a complete replacement for a keyboard.
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My kids play with an old Newton Message Pad 100. They get a kick out of writing something (print or cursive) and watching it translated into silly words. They also enjoy playing games on their DS Lites. But when it comes productive use; neither touch nor tablet is a complete replacement for a keyboard.

Agreed. There are times when both have a purpose. A keyboard is great for rapid textual entry, a tablet is great at rapid spatial entry. Current GUIs need both. What I loved about my MP2000 (which was a massive leap over the 100) was that I could use it solely with pen 95% of the time, and those times when I needed faster text entry (during class, for instance), I had a keyboard. I can't help but think that Apple's BT wireless keyboard (which I use daily at the office) would be a *fantastic* add-on for a small tablet. Keep the keyboard in the briefcase for serious text entry, and have the small-form tablet for 'on the go'. Actually, I'm rather surprised the iPhone doesn't have BT keyboard support. Hopefully soon.
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Gawd you people!! Google the latest multitouch patents that Apple filed. Multitouch is the future for Apple and it will be extremely succesful whether you like it or not!!
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Gawd you people!! Google the latest multitouch patents that Apple filed. Multitouch is the future for Apple and it will be extremely succesful whether you like it or not!!

Depends on your definition of successful...
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I can't help but think that Apple's BT wireless keyboard (which I use daily at the office) would be a *fantastic* add-on for a small tablet. Keep the keyboard in the briefcase for serious text entry, and have the small-form tablet for 'on the go'.

I agree, use the tablet, write and MultiTouchtype on it, use BT keyboard for typing and have an iMac like docking station that allows the use of a better graphics card and processor, ect.

I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Anyone want to predict price?
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I agree, use the tablet, write and MultiTouchtype on it, use BT keyboard for typing and have an iMac like docking station that allows the use of a better graphics card and processor, ect.

I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Anyone want to predict price?

An Apple Multi-touch tablet with iMacish docking station and wireless keyboard? That's not going to be cheap if it all comes together. I'd expect the tablet alone to be somewhere over $2000... the docking station and keyboard would probably add close to another $400-500. Perhaps the docking station could be a separate "accessory" you could buy/add on...
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post #296 of 385
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Originally Posted by MsNly View Post

I agree, use the tablet, write and MultiTouchtype on it, use BT keyboard for typing and have an iMac like docking station that allows the use of a better graphics card and processor, ect.

I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Anyone want to predict price?

Price would depend on many factors. CPU type and speed, amount of RAM, storage type and quantity, display type and size, other HW additions.
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Originally Posted by MusLtngBlue View Post

An Apple Multi-touch tablet with iMacish docking station and wireless keyboard? That's not going to be cheap if it all comes together. I'd expect the tablet alone to be somewhere over $2000... the docking station and keyboard would probably add close to another $400-500. Perhaps the docking station could be a separate "accessory" you could buy/add on...

Time for another mortgage
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post #298 of 385
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Time for another mortgage

Assuming I'm right... I could be way off on my estimates, but that's what I'd expect. Meh, maybe I'm slightly high on the docking station, but I'd expect it to not be cheap... \
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Time for another mortgage

I misread that as "Time for another montage" and all I can think about is Team America's training montage song. Thanks a lot.
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Is this too far from the fray....? A "portable" that has no display, just the keyboard and keyboard in size with trackpad and clicker. The unit would contain all the flash storage and ports but would wirelessly interface with a display or Apple TV. I don't know if Bluetooth could handle video. But given that it's size would begin rival a laptop's, the idea would probably become foolish. And I don't think there are any patents that have been submitted of the kind.
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OK, heres my take:

If 'Air' has any relevance to anything it is Apple Itunes Rentals.
Deals struck with all big studios ($3.99 per movie, 24hr self destruct.)
Complete revision of Apple TV maybe even apple branded HD TV.
drm free deals with all music labels.

Massive revisions to whole laptop range. stupidly thin. optical drive possibly dropped, with optional external blue ray instead.

Revision of .mac, the integration of multiple apple devices will drummed into us for apples 'digital lifestyle. steps taken towards thin client. Apple Remote Desktop maybe.

Possible deal with 'Sling Media' to stream itunes movies and audio from your home computer to your mobile/taptop. But not from your TV as the studios would get in a mood and not allow apple to rent their material. maybe apples implementation of this technology is called 'Air' as in 'On Air' referring to broadcasting.

And with apples traditional "one more thing", well im expecting a 7"-8" mac 3G touchscreen , but i think they wouldn't want to overshadow the movie rentals, so maybe wait until feb to coincide with developer tools release.

oh and apple branded external 3G for laptops.
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and of course the Isee glasses, to see movies properly


iGlasses
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I agree that "Air" must be dealing with video downloading. I think that maybe it's new software so that video will now be separate from iTunes. It is i"Tunes" after all. What do tunes have to do with TV and movies.
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

They can laugh all they want, I don't give a shit.

Ha Ha.

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I misread that as "Time for another montage" and all I can think about is Team America's training montage song. Thanks a lot.

I can picture Steve preparing for tuesday in similar fashion. "Time for another Keynote"
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Originally Posted by mangochutney View Post

True.
But sitting in class and not only having to write stuff down, but also draw small explanatory graphics in one document is nice.
And with the XP tablet edition you had the option to save a document in handwritten form and konvert it to machine-writing later when you review your notes.
And this last step is not as work intensive as it seems.
As I said, I've tried it. The app wasn't perfect, but more than usable and helpful.

What you are describing is a note-taking application!

I think its amazing that there have been tens of tablet computers created, all with the notion that they could replace a pen and paper notebook. And yet, no one has bothered to create a notebook software application that out-performs pen and paper!

Imagine if each diagram and annotation was tagged with metadata - including the *time* it was made. With this info, your notes could be alligned with your schedule, and the app would automatically know that *this* note should be filed with *this* meeting. Cool eh?

So note-taking is a good thing. But, I'd still like a quiet keyboard for text entry.
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What you are describing is a note-taking application!

I think its amazing that there have been tens of tablet computers created, all with the notion that they could replace a pen and paper notebook. And yet, no one has bothered to create a notebook software application that out-performs pen and paper!

Imagine if each diagram and annotation was tagged with metadata - including the *time* it was made. With this info, your notes could be alligned with your schedule, and the app would automatically know that *this* note should be filed with *this* meeting. Cool eh?

So note-taking is a good thing. But, I'd still like a quiet keyboard for text entry.

I know this wasn't tested thoroughly, yet, but this looks promising, and combined with a well integrated handwriting recognition it would be just wonderful: http://arstechnica.com/journals/appl...ok-layout-view
(Check out the article from MacBU at MS.)


Until MWSF it is like this:

"There's somethingin the air." ...
... "vaporware"
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post #308 of 385
So, MacBook Ultralight is being telegraphed by the use of the ultralight typeface on the banner.

The something in the "Air," is the wireless device feeding CD, DVD and data (music, videos, photos, etc.) to the Ultralight. "Air" is the home server, or home cloud if you like, which can be accessed by any Mac with an AirPort Card. A home Slingbox, if you will, which is also available outside the home via Web and/or dotMac.

The whole imagery of an ultralight flying through the air and through the clouds coupled with an airport is too rich.
post #309 of 385
OK, let's imagine something crazy.

Anyone seen this video? http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/

Forget about multitouch on a surface. How about multitouch (or single touch) in the air? Move your finger tip(s) in the air as the next computer UI.

"There is something in the air".
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Originally Posted by johnqh View Post

OK, let's imagine something crazy.

Anyone seen this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s5EvhHy7eQ

That is a cool video.
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OK, let's imagine something crazy.

Anyone seen this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s5EvhHy7eQ

Forget about multitouch on a surface. How about multitouch (or single touch) in the air? Move your finger tip(s) in the air as the next computer UI.

"There is something in the air".

You mean like 1986's Amiga Mandala system or Sony's EyeToy ?

Great as they were, you'd look like a buffoon operating a computer in Starbucks like that.
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That is a cool video.

Nah, to do that you'd have to build some sort of camera into your screen...
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You mean like 1986's Amiga Mandala system or Sony's EyeToy ?

Great as they were, you'd look like a buffoon operating a computer in Starbucks like that.

Maybe not computer, but how about Apple TV? Forget about the remotes (getting tiring to keep track of all those remotes). Use your fingers to control the TV. Flip through video albums. Select video rental, fast forward, rewind etc.
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Nah, to do that you'd have to build some sort of camera into your screen...

Huh?
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For me, Christmas doesn't really happen until MacWorld.
Steve Jobs is Santa.
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Whatever Jobs has in store, could literally be in the air as he speaks...FedEx air... This could hint that there is some-"thing" i.e. hardware rather than wireless etc...

Just a thought that I had not seen posted yet...
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

OK, heres my take:

If 'Air' has any relevance to anything it is Apple Itunes Rentals.
Deals struck with all big studios ($3.99 per movie, 24hr self destruct.)
Complete revision of Apple TV maybe even apple branded HD TV.
drm free deals with all music labels.

Massive revisions to whole laptop range. stupidly thin. optical drive possibly dropped, with optional external blue ray instead.

Revision of .mac, the integration of multiple apple devices will drummed into us for apples 'digital lifestyle. steps taken towards thin client. Apple Remote Desktop maybe.

Possible deal with 'Sling Media' to stream itunes movies and audio from your home computer to your mobile/taptop. But not from your TV as the studios would get in a mood and not allow apple to rent their material. maybe apples implementation of this technology is called 'Air' as in 'On Air' referring to broadcasting.

And with apples traditional "one more thing", well im expecting a 7"-8" mac 3G touchscreen , but i think they wouldn't want to overshadow the movie rentals, so maybe wait until feb to coincide with developer tools release.

oh and apple branded external 3G for laptops.

You're not after much then?

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FWIW, while browsing Canon's web site for print drivers, I came upon this (see Bold below)

Drivers & Downloads

Downloads

Details - MP610 series Printer Driver Ver. 10.1.0.0 (Mac OS X CUPS)
ID: 0100092101_EN_1


OS
Mac OS X

File Name
mp610sosxcp10100ej7.dmg
File Version
10.1.0.0
File Size
6.99 MB
Post Date
12/13/2007
Environment
Mac OS X 10.5 or higher (CUPS)
Caution
1. Use the CUPS drivers in the following cases only: -When performing 16-bit color printing -When printing from the 64-bit application 2. Mac OS X v10.5 Printing from Air Mac is not available.
Setup
Procedures for the download and installation 1. Click the link. The download will start automatically. 2. Files will be saved on the computer desktop. 3. Double-click the file to mount the Disk Image. 4. Double-click the mounted Disk Image. 5. Double-click the .pkg file in the folder. Installation starts automatically.
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Originally Posted by Carniphage View Post

Nah, to do that you'd have to build some sort of camera into your screen...

Like this apple patent perhaps?

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/periphera...lay-169886.php
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Originally Posted by Lionhead View Post

FWIW, while browsing Canon's web site for print drivers, I came upon this (see Bold below)

Drivers & Downloads

Downloads

Details - MP610 series Printer Driver Ver. 10.1.0.0 (Mac OS X CUPS)
ID: 0100092101_EN_1


OS
Mac OS X

File Name
mp610sosxcp10100ej7.dmg
File Version
10.1.0.0
File Size
6.99 MB
Post Date
12/13/2007
Environment
Mac OS X 10.5 or higher (CUPS)
Caution
1. Use the CUPS drivers in the following cases only: -When performing 16-bit color printing -When printing from the 64-bit application 2. Mac OS X v10.5 Printing from Air Mac is not available.
Setup
Procedures for the download and installation 1. Click the link. The download will start automatically. 2. Files will be saved on the computer desktop. 3. Double-click the file to mount the Disk Image. 4. Double-click the mounted Disk Image. 5. Double-click the .pkg file in the folder. Installation starts automatically.

He's right, I've just had a look on the same website (The link to it can be found here also http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...&modelid=15604) but still confuses me, so is this "Air Mac" device going to be a new ultra-portable Macbook Pro option or just another stupid upgrade to the Airport Extreme?
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