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post #41 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by green-bee.salsa View Post

Where are the Macbook / Macbook Pro Updates???

Probably waiting for Penryn chips to be widely available, which should be end of January I think.

Hopefully updates to iMac and the portables will come then.
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post #42 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:34am
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Haven't been watching apple stock very long I take it?

I can't think of a keynote where the stock didn't go down several dollars immediately after. That's just the way it is, and always shall be.

This is common. The stock goes up on positive rumors and then sells on the news. Its a key part of financial psychology. Similarly, stocks can go down on negative rumors and then rally on the actual news.
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post #43 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by John F. View Post

The Apple website says this has a special custom-built Intel Core 2 Duo processor in it, which is 60 percent smaller than the regular one. Is it true that Intel made it specifically for Apple? Did it cost Apple much, you think?

It didn't cost Apple anything, you can be sure. And as nothing was said about this chip only being used by Apple, it's likely that Intel will be selling it around. Apple will likely have first crack, possibly for a bit of time.
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post #44 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by audiopollution View Post

\ ... people will find anything to whine about.

Hating it is the only thing they can do to keep themselves from buying it. It's not a very healthy defense strategy.

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post #45 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:36am
If you can't add more RAM, that is a bummer. Otherwise, nice machine but pricey!!
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post #46 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:37am
I don't really get that thinnest hype. It used to be "less is more" but now less is just much less. It might be art but I don't really get why someone would buy this. It looks nice but no drive, such a small hard drive lack of firewire and a slow processor compared to a mbp. Who buys this kinda stuff anyway?
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post #47 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by shanmugam View Post

Everything is STUNNING but price is expensive

i think they should call it as

Mac Book Expensive

it is more expensive than 12" PB

Maybe you should compare it to the Sony TZ? The MacBook Air is $900 less, larger screen, and much faster. So much for Macs being expensive.

Reducing the size costs money.
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post #48 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:38am
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I'm a bit dissapointed. While I think it looks really nice, the price doesn't justify the specs. I'm sure there will be some people who drop $1799 (minimum) for the cool factor, however.

Anyone think there will ever be a 2nd revision?

No. Apple will never revise this. Apple NEVER revises any of their machines. We're just imagining all of this. Actually, Apple still makes the Mac 128, the rest is just Job's RDF. We THINK Apple has had new, and revised machines.

So, this machine will be here 'till the end of time (esp considering that it's really a Mac 128 with a portable gasoline generator that we can't see).
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post #49 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:38am
and do not forget is free shipping for a machine that eventually it will lead the line of notebook to be redesign ,no touch screen , 2 gb of memmory no tablet .
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post #50 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by caldercay View Post

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/notebook-...azr-263359.php

Looks like a prototype by Intel. They have a whole pile of those sorts of things using their advanced tech. I bet they have a dual-Nehalem prototype somewhere too (2x 4 cores w/ 2 threads/core).

In fact, that's probably basically the MacBook Air. Razor-thin with a 45nm Penryn, x3100, etc.


The real issue is the HDD. I'm gonna complain about this for a while (even though I'll buy one if I can figure out financing), but a 4200rpm HDD is gonna suck. That's what my 3 year old iBook has, and it's SLOW. Maybe the 80GB version is better than the my old 60GB one, but I want benchmarks showing that it's not horrible.
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post #51 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:39am
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Count on $200.00 PLUS within the next few weeks. The drop ALWAYS happens. It sucks, but I've never sold any shares when this happens. I have several hundred. Of course I did purchase at UNDER $7.00 BEFORE the split

I HAVE been a Mac fan a long time.

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PS Heck I was the founder and past President of what was Maine's largest Mac group (LA MUG) years ago, which is when I bought the stock. The group isn't going so strong now but the stock is doing fine

Hey maybe I should see if the Mac group in CA wants to buy the URL (www.lamug.com)

YES YES YES....I always sell the day before the earnings, when it pumps up real high, and then the day after when it tanks again I buy back and end up with 20% more shares than the day before...
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post #52 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Well, I was disappointed in the lack of any info about Penyrn upgrades for any of the other machines. I also expected Apple to take advantage of that to offer better graphics for the iMac. My daughter and I waited for this keynote before buying her a new machine, and now, I don't know what to do.

I'm wondering just what Wallstreet was expecting. The movie rentals is really BIG.

I wonder if it was the lack of some sales numbers? The Air costing $300, or so, over expectations? The lack of other Penyrn announcements? More movie sales? No talk of more DRM-free content for iTunes?

Could be a bit of all the above, including what I've forgotten to put in to this post. Haven't checked my realtime stock account so far today. Could be the markets are down too.

The markets down OVER 200 Points! As goes Apple so goes the rest of the market

Awhile back I was watching Wall Street Journal on TV, and they said that Apple and it's products have created a BILLION dollar PLUS a year 3rd party market, and when Apple is doing well, so goes the market.

They called it "iEconomics" and they said this VERY seriously!

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post #53 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by Bobo Decosta View Post

I don't really get that thinnest hype. It used to be "less is more" but now less is just much less. It might be art but I don't really get why someone would buy this. It looks nice but no drive, such a small hard drive lack of firewire and a slow processor compared to a mbp. Who buys this kinda stuff anyway?

About 7% of computer buyers.
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post #54 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by caldercay View Post

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/notebook-...azr-263359.php

Just curious did the intel ship? The article said prototype. I haven't looked for a new box in a while, but I haven't seen this one out there.
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post #55 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by wirc View Post

Hating it is the only thing they can do to keep themselves from buying it. It's not a very healthy defense strategy.

It's not just the 'hating' of the MBA ... it's also the threads popping up with complaints that it has features that the MBP doesn't have. Or that it's missing features that the MB has. (... and any permutations of the feature sets of it's siblings.)

Apparently, Apple owes everyone the perfect machine complete with: massive SSD storage, 15 (or so) USB ports, FW3200, quadraphonic sound, 2 ethernet ports (in case one breaks, as we all know Apple QC is terrible), built-in blu-ray, etc, etc, etc.

Oh, and that perfect machine should probably cost about the same as a Macbook. Or a pizza. Or something.

sigh.
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post #56 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:44am
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The markets down OVER 200 Points! As goes Apple so goes the rest of the market

Awhile back I was watching Wall Street Journal on TV, and they said that Apple and it's products have created a BILLION dollar PLUS a year 3rd party market, and when Apple is doing well, so goes the market.

They called it "iEconomics" and they said this VERY seriously!

I think the causality is the other way, Apple's down because the rest of the stocks / economy is down. It's silly to suggest that the Apple ecosystem is enough to bring down the market like that. The markets have many trillions of dollars of market capitalization involved.
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post #57 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by NYCMacFan View Post

This is common. The stock goes up on positive rumors and then sells on the news. Its a key part of financial psychology. Similarly, stocks can go down on negative rumors and then rally on the actual news.

Thanks guys. Good to know. Nice way of making some extra $$ on the next big event! ;o)
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post #58 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by ifiredmyboss.com View Post

Just curious did the intel ship? The article said prototype. I haven't looked for a new box in a while, but I haven't seen this one out there.

It was only a concept to show what 'could' be done.
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post #59 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by ncee View Post

The markets down OVER 200 Points! As goes Apple so goes the rest of the market

Awhile back I was watching Wall Street Journal on TV, and they said that Apple and it's products have created a BILLION dollar PLUS a year 3rd party market, and when Apple is doing well, so goes the market.

They called it "iEconomics" and they said this VERY seriously!

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post #60 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by ifiredmyboss.com View Post

Just curious did the intel ship? The article said prototype. I haven't looked for a new box in a while, but I haven't seen this one out there.

Intel doesn't directly market them. Sometimes other companies license the designs and make them. Averetec did that of the odd iMac-like computer.
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post #61 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:46am
What I'm pumped for is a multi-touch pad probably showing up in the new Penryn Macbook Pro in the next few months. It also looks as if we'll see the backlit macbook-style keyboard and magnetic latch. I'm all for it.
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post #62 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:47am
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

About 7% of computer buyers.

You shure? 7% of the mac user base i might agree

But I'm not buying it and i'm one of those 7% you mentioning.
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post #63 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:47am
Anybody else reminded of the Cube when they look at the Air's price/performance/functionality mix?
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post #64 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:49am
where's 10.5.2 ?
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post #65 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by Bobo Decosta View Post

I don't really get that thinnest hype. It used to be "less is more" but now less is just much less. It might be art but I don't really get why someone would buy this. It looks nice but no drive, such a small hard drive lack of firewire and a slow processor compared to a mbp. Who buys this kinda stuff anyway?

Nobody needs it, that's why Apple have decided to build one......
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post #66 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by ncee View Post

The markets down OVER 200 Points! As goes Apple so goes the rest of the market

Awhile back I was watching Wall Street Journal on TV, and they said that Apple and it's products have created a BILLION dollar PLUS a year 3rd party market, and when Apple is doing well, so goes the market.

They called it "iEconomics" and they said this VERY seriously!

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No, as the market goes, so goes Apple.

If Apple went down 10 points, and the NASDAQ dropped 5 points, then it could be said that Apple led a drop in the market, but not if it's down by 50.

The markets are down more than 200.

But I think there is some disappointment with what wasn't announced.

But Apple was down to $165.41. Right now it's at $167.00. It seems to be bouncing around a lot right now, so where it will end today is a matter of speculation right now.
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post #67 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by Bobo Decosta View Post

I don't really get that thinnest hype. It used to be "less is more" but now less is just much less. It might be art but I don't really get why someone would buy this. It looks nice but no drive, such a small hard drive lack of firewire and a slow processor compared to a mbp. Who buys this kinda stuff anyway?

Let's see... somebody who doesn't need an optical drive (why, when you have a network?), doesn't need a lot of disk space (remember, 64+ GB is actually a lot of data... 50 million floppy disks or so), doesn't use firewire peripherals, and who doesn't do anything particularly processor intensive.

That actually describes a very large number of people, probably most of the computer buying market. The real question is how many of them want to spend $1800+ for a pretty thin notebook (or is that "a pretty, thin" notebook?).
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post #68 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:50am
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Anybody else reminded of the Cube when they look at the Air's price/performance/functionality mix?

No, did you have a look at the competition's prices? Like Sony?
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post #69 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by Bobo Decosta View Post

You shure? 7% of the mac user base i might agree

But I'm not buying it and i'm one of those 7% you mentioning.

The numbers are that 10% of portable buyers are buying ultralghts. Portables are, right now. 60% of the overall computer market.

That gives ultralights about 7% of the overall market.

There are no numbers for Apple, as Apple doesn't sell ultralights, or, at least they didn't until today.
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post #70 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:53am
Anybody care to explain what the PATA (Parallel ATA) of the 80gig HD means?
I know what parallel vs serial is technically but I want to know the (dis)avantages of this specific thing over SATA.
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post #71 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Well, I was disappointed in the lack of any info about Penyrn upgrades for any of the other machines. I also expected Apple to take advantage of that to offer better graphics for the iMac. My daughter and I waited for this keynote before buying her a new machine, and now, I don't know what to do.

After the Mac Pro announcement, I didn't really expect any updates to their current machines.

I feel like they've done this before. Announce something brand new at the keynote, and in 4-6 weeks, after the dust settles, other machines get their speed bumps.

The Mac Pro was only announced right away because it was in such desperate need of an upgrade.
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post #72 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by PBG4 Dude View Post

Don't forget, no Firewire port either. So there's just no way to import video at all without using another computer.

My new Canon HD video camera doesn't have FW; it only has USB 2, so this will do just fine.


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post #73 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by NYCMacFan View Post

This is common. The stock goes up on positive rumors and then sells on the news. Its a key part of financial psychology. Similarly, stocks can go down on negative rumors and then rally on the actual news.

I know, that was exactly my point
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post #74 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:54am
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Anybody care to explain what the PATA (Parallel ATA) of the 80gig HD means?
I know what parallel vs serial is technically but I want to know the (dis)avantages of this specific thing over SATA.

It's the older standard but it probably still does pretty well here. I don't know if there are 1.8" SATA drives yet.
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post #75 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by Programmer View Post

Let's see... somebody who doesn't need an optical drive (why, when you have a network?), doesn't need a lot of disk space (remember, 64+ GB is actually a lot of data... 50 million floppy disks or so)

What era are you from? 50 million floppy disks? Who cares. 64+ GB is nothing today. You can't compare from back when. Yeah, there was a time when 5megs was considered big. But only then and no other time. Today 120GB drives are standard and 500GB drives are common.
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post #76 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:56am
Looks like a cool laptop, and I'm sure it'll be even be cooler with hands on.

But, I was hoping for something just a bit smaller in screen size. This looks like it'll still be larger in area than my 12" PowerBook. And it looks like another glossy screen only device.

I like to tour on my motorcycle, where space is tight. While the thinness is great, the width and length are still on the large size to fit in some hard bags (on the bike). I wish Apple would have made some of the compromises Steve was proud of avoiding. Maybe about a 10-11" screen? Losing the firewire port is an issue for me too.

My daughter, who is a college sophomore, was also hoping for something just a tad smaller--but the thinness may do the trick for her. She also dislikes the glossy screen though, and that forces her into the 15" minimum.
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post #77 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:57am
I'll buy, but would like to know what weight savings and added life the SSD gets me.
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post #78 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:58am
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What era are you from? 50 million floppy disks? Who cares.

I'd watch who you're dissing. Programmer is not someone to take lightly.
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post #79 of 400
1/15/08 at 11:58am
ONE usb port?! How do i run Logic with an FW audio interface and an external drive FW800 ?!
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1/15/08 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by rosstheboss View Post

Good points, but how is a "Pro" going to capture HDV1080i / connect to a DM2000 / control a video projector over CAT5 / connect to an external audio interface for ProTools & Logic / render video without FW800 / add an ADAT interface / use Remote Capture with a EOS 1D and an external drive?

with ONE USB port?!

It's your lucky day!

Apple have made available a machine called the Macbook Pro.

Check it out, you'll be impressed.
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