Originally Posted by cameronj
That car you bought last month had GPS data from 2007. Next month they GPS data in new cars gets 2008 data. Think you get that for free?
In many cases, yes.
There's no reason for apple to charge for this, especially since these were all apps that already existed on the iPhone, so it cost apple nothing extra to put them on the touch. Are they charging appleTV owners for the software upgrade? Nope.
A dumb move like this is just going to encourage people to wait for version 1.1 of any apple product, particularly ones with obvious missing features. People bought the touch under the assumption that the missing apps would be added, and Jobs even admitted that leaving off things like notes and mail was a mistake.
Originally Posted by skottichan
The iPod is for playing audio and video media, the addition of Safari and Youtube are wonderful bonuses, but it still doesn't make the iPod a phone/web device.
What the hell are you talking about? The touch surfs the web. It's a web device as well as a media player. Period. Insisting that a web device isn't a web device just because it shares a brand name with media players is just idiotic.
Originally Posted by Bregalad
Charging for updates that are free on the iPhone does look like a rip off, but consider the alternative...
2008 Touch includes new features
2007 Touch owners are stuck with the features that shipped in 2007
Way to ignore the most obvious alternative, and the one consistent with what apple has done with virtually every other product that has recieved a software update - GIVE EXISTING USERS THE UPDATE FOR FREE.
Originally Posted by Bregalad
Do you people honestly expect to get the next 5 years' worth of added features free?
I'm not sure where you got the "5 years" thing from, this unit has only been out FOUR MONTHS. But until they change the hardware, I absolutely would expect free software updates.
Originally Posted by Abster2core
I really fail to understand this concept of entitlement, i.e., that the purchase of a device obligates the developer to provide updates, new functionality and services for free.
I wouldn't say that people are "entitled" to get a free update.
But apple has set a precedent of free updates to many of their products. They just did it with the aTV. They did it with the 5G ipod. They did it with the iPhone. They have done it many times with new features in point updates to OSX.
Sure, apple doesn't have
to give a free update. They're not obligated to. But they are a company that sells products, and giving a free update makes customers happy, while charging $20 for one, especially for a product that has only been out four months, makes customers pissed off.
And happy customers are more likely to keep buying apple products than pissed off customers. As an apple stockholder, I am NOT happy about seeing the company make idiot moves like this that are likely to make very little extra income but generate a bunch of ill will toward the company.
Honestly, I'm pretty shocked to see so many people coming to apple's defense on this one. I just don't get it.