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Is the hard drive 1.8 in.

1.8"

That's why there's only 80 GB as an option. (The 160 GB 1.8" drive in the iPod classic has two platters and is thicker than the 80 GB drive, so it's too fat to fit in the MBA)
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post #42 of 107
Personally I think it will be great for the business traveler. I used one of the original X Series ThinkPads from IBM before moving to Macs and teh #1 complaint I had was the small display.

In those days I was traveling overseas on business and I'm impressed with thin and light. Thin as the thinner it is the less room it takes up in my briefcase. Light because I was getting old and weight on the shoulder counts a lot. The display size is not a factor in the briefcase - just when it's being used.

I also think that the Air will be THE notebook to have at college next year, with the lucky students getting theirs this year. Lots easier to carry around campus and it will be very popular within a few months.
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post #43 of 107
Awww crap... Apple stock is down to $163 in after hours trading. I've had better days.

I guess no announcement short of a 3G iPhone or a cure for cancer would've satisfied expectations, considering how Jobs blew everyone away last year. Ah well, there should be some bounceback when the Q4 financials are released.

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post #44 of 107
So who else thinks there will be overheating & cooling issues? Nice but too small for me.
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post #45 of 107
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Originally Posted by Tailpipe View Post

I was very disappointed that the rest of the Mac laptop range was not updated.

The other MacBook lines get updated about every six months, which is pretty decent. It might be a month, but it will come. The updates usually are about a month or two after there has been a chip update.
post #46 of 107
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Originally Posted by WJHMH View Post

So who else thinks there will be overheating & cooling issues? Nice but too small for me.

I do, I do.

I'm quite surprised that the MacBook Air is the same size as the MacBook, only thinner. The bezel around the screen appears to be the same width. Apple should have put a high priority on reducing the width and depth a bit, even while using the same size LCD panel. But I guess thin is in, or at least Apple seems to think so.
post #47 of 107
Simply beautiful, Apple leading the way as always, kudos to them.
post #48 of 107
Black keyboard?
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post #49 of 107
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Black keyboard?

I personally dislike black keyboards but they look cooler with lighted letters. I suppose that's the reason for Apple's decision. Aluminum would look much nicer, like on the MBP.
post #50 of 107
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Two things to think about:

1.) Maybe shallow DOF was used because it looks cool.

2.) Maybe using smaller aperture and longer exposure would require a tripod and getting one of those out in the middle of a crowded floor at MacWorld isn't an option.

I think it's too tight to look cool. It's unusual, and unusual in a way that I think detracts.

The EXIF information is gone on those photos, so there's no info on the settings, but maybe kicking up ISO a notch or two and using a monopod probably would have gotten better results.
post #51 of 107
i am torn between the MBP and MBA there is no real reason i would need the power of the MBP apart form the occational imovie. i would be carting it to and fro from school everyday so that points to the MBA.

I held off getting a new laptop untill macworld because i thought they would update the MBP.

I am using a PB g4 1.6 ghz.

All macworld has done is complicate my decition.

Does anyone know MBP or MBA??

Thanks
post #52 of 107
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i would be carting it to and fro from school everyday so that points to the MBA.

I held off getting a new laptop untill macworld because i thought they would update the MBP.

The light weight is Air's only real advantage. If you have a long walk to school, it might be worth it. Otherwise, MBP is a much better computer for $200 more, and MacBook is a better computer for much less.

I would expect to see MBP updates before spring, but if I needed a portable computer now, I'd choose between MacBook and MacBook Pro.
post #53 of 107
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The light weight is Air's only real advantage. If you have a long walk to school, it might be worth it. Otherwise, MBP is a much better computer for $200 more, and MacBook is a better computer for much less.

I would expect to see MBP updates before spring, but if I needed a portable computer now, I'd choose between MacBook and MacBook Pro.

The only prob is school goes back feb 5 and my PB is screwed and unusable.

I usualy carry around three bags and getting a MBA would reduce that to 2.

One question i had was if i plug in a usb external hdd and plug i firewire camera into that will it apear in imovie / final cut? I know it works with i firwire hard drive.

Thanks
post #54 of 107
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Originally Posted by iDave View Post

I personally dislike black keyboards but they look cooler with lighted letters. I suppose that's the reason for Apple's decision. Aluminum would look much nicer, like on the MBP.

The one thing I slightly dislike about my MacBook Pro is the keyboard. Not the feel, but the look. They just look a bit tacky. I'd prefer black I think, and I expect thats what the MacBook Pros will get with the next revision.
post #55 of 107
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One question i had was if i plug in a usb external hdd and plug i firewire camera into that will it apear in imovie / final cut?

Not exactly sure how you'd do that. I'm not sure what if anything video camera users can do with the Air. Most video cameras require a Firewire connection, I think.
post #56 of 107
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Originally Posted by eAi View Post

The one thing I slightly dislike about my MacBook Pro is the keyboard. Not the feel, but the look. They just look a bit tacky. I'd prefer black I think, and I expect thats what the MacBook Pros will get with the next revision.

I really like the white keys on my MacBook and my wireless desktop keyboard. Aluminum would be my second choice. Obviously just personal preference.
post #57 of 107
The thing I don't get about the air is that damn .75" wide bezel around the screen. Apple could easily have cut the size down 1.5" by eliminating it.
post #58 of 107
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Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post

Two things to think about:

1.) Maybe shallow DOF was used because it looks cool.

2.) Maybe using smaller aperture and longer exposure would require a tripod and getting one of those out in the middle of a crowded floor at MacWorld isn't an option.

1) There's a time for shallow DOF and a time where it actually makes the photo less useful.

2) That doesn't explain why even AI's (Kasper's?) studio (office) shots all use shallow DOF. It's almost as though the photographer doesn't know how to set the aperture to increase DOF. Also, even in Macworld, a flash could be used. I'd rather see a poorly lit flash shot of the product that shows the details than an ambient lit wide-open shot that narrows the DOF so much that the photo becomes next to useless.
post #59 of 107
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The thing I don't get about the air is that damn .75" wide bezel around the screen. Apple could easily have cut the size down 1.5" by eliminating it.

Ah, but the extra length and width lets them taper the sides down to a knife edge instead of being blunt like a MB or MBP.
post #60 of 107
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Originally Posted by IHateScreenNames View Post

Since it lacks a removable battery does that mean we'll have problems bringing it on an airplane?

i dont know about that.. but it does mean that you cannot use 2 batteries for a long trip....
post #61 of 107
Obviously this laptop is designed to for easy to carry.. but did Mr. Jobs forget the simple stuff for road warriors? For a long trip, two batteries is almost a necessity. optical drive is another thing but i guess the usb one will have to do..

no ethernet means that this laptop is only useful when you are traveling in the US.. some of us have to travel to other places where there is no wireless connection.

Pros
thin
easy to carry
looks really nice!!!!
plus all the mac goodies
solid state is awesome
its probably very quite with solid state

Cons
is it really for traveling usage or for show while you travel?
price... (needless to say...)
no ethernet port
is it sturdy enough that you wont break it in two? (well.. its very thin..)


Recommendation: If i have a lot of money, i will buy without hesitation.. but then again.. is this a playing thing or a work horse (basically getting my work done) laptop? i guess depends on how you individually use a laptop
post #62 of 107
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

The thing I don't get about the air is that damn .75" wide bezel around the screen. Apple could easily have cut the size down 1.5" by eliminating it.

if they cut down the size, they have to cut down battery life.. all that space is for the battery life (probably thicker too to maintain the same battery life)
post #63 of 107
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Originally Posted by Prometheus View Post

i am torn between the MBP and MBA there is no real reason i would need the power of the MBP apart form the occational imovie. i would be carting it to and fro from school everyday so that points to the MBA.

I held off getting a new laptop untill macworld because i thought they would update the MBP.

I am using a PB g4 1.6 ghz.

All macworld has done is complicate my decition.

Does anyone know MBP or MBA??

Thanks

I would suggest MBP. why? its because u need the exercise... hahaha (Joking2) but seriously it depends on how u use it. For a long term goal and price, i would suggest MBP because apple has a bad track record when introducing innovative products. For example, remember the macbook problem with the heat sink, my iphone suddenly stop working... i had to replace it... (all free btw under free 1 year apple care ). It wouldnt be too much of a stretch if i expect a problem with the macbook air. But if you are willing to take a chance..

Functionality, definitely go with MBP.. you cant go wrong with that. If this is your main laptop, you want functions.. not looks.

honestly, Macbook air is all looks (If you have extra money, then you buy it)
post #64 of 107
Do you guys remember when you were kids and grandma would come over and make Sunday breakfast? She would always make your pancakes in the shape of Mickey Mouses head,

Well I guess thats the reason they had to have the battery internal, as it is also shaped like Mickey Mouses head.
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well....
post #66 of 107
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Originally Posted by ros3ntan View Post

Cons
is it really for traveling usage or for show while you travel?
price... (needless to say...)
no ethernet port
is it sturdy enough that you wont break it in two? (well.. its very thin..)

People thought that the nano would break in two. Aside from a couple reports early on, the nanos seemed to hold up pretty well. My nano has held up better despite taking more abuse. So it could actually do pretty well, we'll have to see.

I don't know if no wired Ethernet is really a deal-breaker. "n" is supposed to be pretty good.

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Recommendation: If i have a lot of money, i will buy without hesitation.. but then again.. is this a playing thing or a work horse (basically getting my work done) laptop? i guess depends on how you individually use a laptop

It depends. If you're a writer, then the battery life may be more of a consideration than anything else and that type of activity obviously doesn't take much horsepower.
post #67 of 107
Simply beautiful.
post #68 of 107
These are mouth-watering photos. More than Macworld, these photos are luring me into buying one for myself.

Sachin
post #69 of 107
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Originally Posted by iDave View Post

I personally dislike black keyboards but they look cooler with lighted letters. I suppose that's the reason for Apple's decision. Aluminum would look much nicer, like on the MBP.

It's not just that they look cooler backlit, they are functionally better. With the aluminium colour used on the MacBook Pro, there is a point in low-ambient-light conditions where the colour of the backlight and the colour of the keys is similar, and it's actually harder to read the markings on the keys. With black keys, there is a proper contrast whatever the ambient lighting conditions.

Also, I like black, I think it looks sharp. Can't wait for the MacBook Pro revision. It better have the magnetic latch and new-style keyboard or I'm going to be
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Cons

price... (needless to say...)

FAIL.

Compare against other ultraportables, the price is competitive.
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I am puzzled why they didn't put an iMac like black edge around the screen

It is looking so much better and it sucks you right into Leopard!

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I am puzzled why they didn't put an iMac like black edge around the screen

It is looking so much better and it sucks you right into Leopard!

mr O
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Can someone download this image from my .mac gallery and post it to this thread? I am quite pleased with my Photoshop job and I made it web friendly
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Can someone download this image from my .mac gallery and post it to this thread? I am quite pleased with my Photoshop job and I made it web friendly

Can't you link directly to the .mac-hosted .jpg?

Like this:

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post #74 of 107
Damn, what a sexy piece of machinery. Too bad it comes at no advantage to the MacBook. If you couldn't carry 13.3" before, the MBA doesn't change that, and that is its fatal flaw.

This is the Cube 2.0. Really damn sexy, but before its time.

Someday all laptops will be like this, not because people are pushing for small and light, but because components will continue to shrink. In five years, this style of computer will probably be looked upon as a standard design, but again, just by today's standards, it is not an ultra-portable.

Thanks for helping nobody, Apple.

EDIT: By the way, I wanted to say "Welcome back to curviness, Apple." I've missed your sexy designs. I haven't been this impressed with your design prowess since the Cube. Everything since then has just been lack-lustre. Can we expect similar revamping in the MB and MBP? The MB especially is looking a little dated...

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post #75 of 107
Here we go...

Closed system, users can not change battery, memory or hard drive.

I am suing apple for 10 million dollars for it not being user accessible and they don't have it in bold face print right in front in ALL of there advertising.

You think I am kidding... I am not.

With in 6 months it will happen and heaven forbid there is any kind of problem with any part in it.

Lawyers are going to have a field day with this one.
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post #76 of 107
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Here we go...

Closed system, users can not change battery, memory or hard drive.

[$10M lawsuit jargon]

All of Apple's computers are closed systems. So what? You cannot user-replace the hard drive in any of their iMacs (officially). So what? You can't change the HDD or RAM in the Mac Mini. So what?

Unless Apple has a monopoly on the PC industry (which it doesn't, by the way) then its closed system isn't illegal in the US. So get over it.

HERE'S THE THING THOUGH:

I agree with you that Apple is selfish and fails to give its customers choice. Unfortunately, the only thing you can do about it is complain to Apple or boycott their products.

Apple did not personally afflict you, or take away your rights. There is no lawsuit.

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post #77 of 107
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The only prob is school goes back feb 5 and my PB is screwed and unusable.

I usualy carry around three bags and getting a MBA would reduce that to 2.

One question i had was if i plug in a usb external hdd and plug i firewire camera into that will it apear in imovie / final cut? I know it works with i firwire hard drive.

Thanks

You could also get a USB to Firewire cable (though they're not cheap) and input your camera data that way.

Also remember, you will have a very unique computer if you go with the MBA for at least a year. Sometimes it's nice to be the "first kid on the block."
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post #78 of 107
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Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post

FAIL.

Compare against other ultraportables, the price is competitive.

you brought up one good point.. i dont know how to classify this laptop.. is it ultra portable (13.3 inch is not an ultra portable.. i dont think..)? definitely not a regular laptop (since its lighter than any other regular laptop)...
post #79 of 107
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Here we go...

Closed system, users can not change battery, memory or hard drive.

I am suing apple for 10 million dollars for it not being user accessible and they don't have it in bold face print right in front in ALL of there advertising.

You think I am kidding... I am not.

With in 6 months it will happen and heaven forbid there is any kind of problem with any part in it.

Lawyers are going to have a field day with this one.

you know.. you have a choice of not buying the product.. its like saying you are suing sony because their blu ray cannot play HD-DVD

besides you can always take the laptop apart and change the battery yourself. its not like the battery is soldered to the motherboard... (that would be dangerous...)
post #80 of 107
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i dont know about that.. but it does mean that you cannot use 2 batteries for a long trip....

Think of it as a business opportunity. Make an external battery that hooks up via the AC adapter port. Of course, there's the little problem of Apple's proprietary and patent-protected Magsafe connector.
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