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post #161 of 199
1/22/08 at 2:40pm
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If you have the money, the Duet is an amazing little (tiny, actually) portable device. You can control the unit directly from inside of Logic (and GarageBand) via CoreAudio. At five benjamins, it is 2 or 3 times more expensive than some of the cheaper USB audio interfaces out there. But IMO the improved fidelity and uber-low latency (mic'ed or direct) makes it worth it, even at twice the price. You'd have to demo one side by side to the competition to really appreciate the difference. It may not quite be an Ensemble, but it is still very much an Apogee. Absolutely perfect for the mobile musician.

does it have phantom power for the inputs>? how many mic inputs can u use simultaneously if i wanted to record a drum track?
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post #162 of 199
1/22/08 at 3:07pm
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does it have phantom power for the inputs>? how many mic inputs can u use simultaneously if i wanted to record a drum track?



off topic of the MBP update...but

To my knowledge, it only has two mic inputs, though im pretty sure they're phantom powered.
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post #163 of 199
1/22/08 at 4:32pm
sorry bout that...
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post #164 of 199
1/22/08 at 5:18pm
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sorry bout that...

dont be, i want a duet too. i never thought about drums though, i suppose you could get a mixer and mix down the input?
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post #165 of 199
1/22/08 at 7:01pm
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sorry bout that...

I gotta say, if only you clicked on the link provided
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post #166 of 199
1/23/08 at 6:39am
So no MacBook Pro update on Tuesday. Mel and Sol as ever bastions of restrained optimism whilst around them swirl the heady vapors of rampant speculation and pedantic squabbling. I love it. Shall we reconvene next Monday, on the back of another tip-off for some more of the same? Great. See you there!
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post #167 of 199
1/23/08 at 7:49am
I will swap the DVI port for eSata. Give us Micro DVI. And while you are at it, please flip that FW800 port to support new FW3200. Hey, I am not asking for PCcard slot. Just keep that Express card slot.

Give the 17 inch model the Nvidia 8800M graphics chip. That will out a big grin on the media people and gamers out there ....
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post #168 of 199
1/23/08 at 7:54am
Oh, oh. If Apple puts eSATA ports, they can give us a New Time Capsule with eSATA port multipliers where stackable RAID can be created.

Wow, this way one can use TimeMachine to do a complete backup of a full 250Gb disk in under 2 hours!. Cool
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post #169 of 199
1/23/08 at 10:58am
A good thing about Apples stock going down is that it might motivate them to release the MBP sooner , it will get that stock right back up there.
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post #170 of 199
1/23/08 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by Nano2Gfteo View Post

I will swap the DVI port for eSata. Give us Micro DVI. And while you are at it, please flip that FW800 port to support new FW3200. Hey, I am not asking for PCcard slot. Just keep that Express card slot.

Give the 17 inch model the Nvidia 8800M graphics chip. That will out a big grin on the media people and gamers out there ....

Forget FW3200. Maybe in 2009, when it will be available. But anything before the last quarter of this year is very unlikely.

I think we're more likely to see USB 3 before we see FW3200.
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post #171 of 199
1/23/08 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by Nano2Gfteo View Post

Oh, oh. If Apple puts eSATA ports, they can give us a New Time Capsule with eSATA port multipliers where stackable RAID can be created.

Wow, this way one can use TimeMachine to do a complete backup of a full 250Gb disk in under 2 hours!. Cool

We may see them AFTER the new Power Over SATA spec is finalized, and physical product becomes available. I can't think of any other good reason why Apple hasn't added it already. But that won't be before the end of the year, or so.

I hoped that Apple would have added it to the desktop line at least.
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post #172 of 199
1/23/08 at 12:33pm
i agree, the company does have a pretty good reaction system for issues like that.
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post #173 of 199
1/23/08 at 2:16pm
Hopefully they put a Blu-Ray drive in these things. Dell has a $200 upgrade for a Blu-Ray drive, and $400 for a Blu-ray writer.

Hopefully Apple offers a similar deal in the new Pro.
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post #174 of 199
1/23/08 at 2:19pm
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Hopefully they put a Blu-Ray drive in these things. Dell has a $200 upgrade for a Blu-Ray drive, and $400 for a Blu-ray writer.

Hopefully Apple offers a similar deal in the new Pro.

Without the Mac Pros having that option do you think it's probable?
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post #175 of 199
1/23/08 at 2:54pm
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Without the Mac Pros having that option do you think it's probable?

Maybe they will begin to offer it at the NAB show in March.
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post #176 of 199
1/24/08 at 4:24am
An interesting thought has occurred to me about the MacBook Pro refresh.

If it has a sleeker form factor, all of the expected ports and connectivity options most of us still need, a built-in DVD drive (incl. BlueRay option), 128Gb SSD hard drive option, a 15" LED screen, gesture touchpad and weighs around 4 lbs or 5 lbs, then it may offer just what most people were expecting from the MacBook Air.

In other words, for the next ieration of the MBP to be a home run, it simply needs to be thinner and lighter than it is at present.
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post #177 of 199
1/24/08 at 4:25am
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You should also note that the "multi-touch" trackpads have been in Apple laptops since the PowerBook G4 1.67ghz series. Two-finger scrolling is ubiquitous on Apple these days.

My 1.5GHz PowerBook G4 has dual-touch.

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Any news of an SSD with these new Mac Pro's?

My guess is 64GB SSD will be a BTO option.

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Slightly off topic, but when should we see a penryn iMac refresh?

Probably by summer.

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When are the Macbooks getting refreshed with new processor speeds, LCD screen, and new multi-touch trackpad?

Probably by summer.

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Let's hope they fix the biggest problem with the MBP, the screen resolution

1920x1200 is not bad on the 17" model but the 15" does need higher resolution.

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I am pretty sure the Macbook Pros will be updated tomorrow or next week or the week after. To that guy who said "6 weeks" you are an idiot, that is over a month. Read the article, it said "serveral WEEKS" not Months. It won't take them 6 weeks.

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I'm pretty sure 6 would count as "several".

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Six weeks is a few weeks. It's not even a few months.

In international usage, several means at least four but fewer than many. In American usage, several means at least three but fewer than many. My guess is we'll see updated MacBook Pros in four to six weeks.
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post #178 of 199
1/24/08 at 9:17am
im at day 5 of 14 guysss

i need to know when the update will be!
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post #179 of 199
1/24/08 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by Slapworth View Post

I was discussing getting a MBP with a friend and Mac user today. (And gritting my teeth waiting for this very announcement to happen, because I wants me some multi-touch trackpad action.)

He wondered if the old multi-touch trackpads might be limited, compared to the new ones.

Specifically, that while it knows that more than one finger is touching the pad, maybe the old pad can't calculate the specific positions of each finger. Instead, it just gets a general, averaged pointer position (like on other pads), plus a "finger count."

I'd love it if complex multi-touch gestures were just a friendly software update away, but if they aren't, this might explain why.

Hmm...the capacitance type trackpads should be able to sense multiple fingers and their locations with the same accuracy...how the logic board sends that data back might be limited and that's not a firmware or software fix.

I dunno that I would be very concerned that Apple would shut out older laptops if the trackpad could work. Its just one of those things that you'd want to add to the OS to further differentiate it from Vista and the more platforms that could take advantage of gestures the better.
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post #180 of 199
1/24/08 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by dmb3886 View Post

im at day 5 of 14 guysss

i need to know when the update will be!

Since none of us know, good luck!
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post #181 of 199
1/25/08 at 4:10pm
If you look at history MBP came out Oct '06 and the next release was April '07 then Nov '07. I'd bet on March or April '08, just about the time to be getting Prez George's $600 help the economy check. Shame it couldn't be enough to pay an entire 17" LED display multi-touch pad 2.7 GHz w/8GB RAM MBP
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post #182 of 199
1/26/08 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by Bageljoey View Post

The new MBPs better be under 1 inch thick and weigh less than 3 pounds or I am going to be very angry!!!
Why doesn't Apple listen to their customers?


It's very selfish of you to think that, with the release of the MBA, that Apple would create another laptop only so similar. If you want a MBP, and want it to meet your requirements, get the MBA, and quit complaining.

I think the majority of us who want a MBP don't care what size the thing is. It's a wonderful machine already, and any updates Mac give it will be welcome, just as long as it's not too drastic, like taking all of the good features out of the MBP and creating a MBA.

Be prepared to be very angry... / the majority of us are greatful for any update, and won't be so angry.
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post #183 of 199
1/26/08 at 6:42am
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It's very selfish of you to think that, with the release of the MBA, that Apple would create another laptop only so similar. If you want a MBP, and want it to meet your requirements, get the MBA, and quit complaining.

I think the majority of us who want a MBP don't care what size the thing is. It's a wonderful machine already, and any updates Mac give it will be welcome, just as long as it's not too drastic, like taking all of the good features out of the MBP and creating a MBA.

Be prepared to be very angry... / the majority of us are greatful for any update, and won't be so angry.

I'm pretty sure you made a serious response to a joke.
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post #184 of 199
1/26/08 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by norris3eb View Post

It's very selfish of you to think that, with the release of the MBA, that Apple would create another laptop only so similar. If you want a MBP, and want it to meet your requirements, get the MBA, and quit complaining.

I think the majority of us who want a MBP don't care what size the thing is. It's a wonderful machine already, and any updates Mac give it will be welcome, just as long as it's not too drastic, like taking all of the good features out of the MBP and creating a MBA.

Be prepared to be very angry... / the majority of us are greatful for any update, and won't be so angry.

He's being sarcastic
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post #185 of 199
1/26/08 at 6:55am
^The casual nature of internet conversations make it very difficult to pick up on the subtleties of informal speak. Perhaps we need a symbol before and/or after sentences or paragraphs to indicate when one in being sarcastic, facetious, satirical, ironic, derisive or sardonic.^
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post #186 of 199
1/26/08 at 7:01am
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^The casual nature of internet conversations make it very difficult to pick up on the subtleties of informal speak. Perhaps we need a symbol before and/or after sentences or paragraphs to indicate when one in being sarcastic, facetious, satirical, ironic, derisive or sardonic.^

Maybe I'm just restating what you mean, but the context is often missing too. I think part Bageljoey's comment was based comments made in other threads. I do agree somewhat with your statments, I think maybe all of us have fallen for sarcasm and hyperboly on occasion. I don't know if a symbol is going to help, sometimes people leave smileys and whoever makes a flamey response didn't notice the smiley.

Personally, I think reading all of a thread before commenting is the best way to prevent foot-in-mouth disease. I know a 19 page thread is long, it's better to read a few more pages before responding to a post on page 2, just to be sure.
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post #187 of 199
1/28/08 at 8:55am
Although I agree that the current case is a beautiful creation, I think they are going to change the case to match the rest of their product line. I think mainly the keyboard though, their new keyboard matches the Macbook and the Macbook Air now has the same keyboard and it's backlit which looks like it will be coming to the Macbook Pro. Also the Macbook Pro is missing a purely magnetic latch, it still has the hooks that are easy to break. If Apple is Apple they will update these things plus more just to stay current with their design philosophy.
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post #188 of 199
1/28/08 at 9:04am
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Although I agree that the current case is a beautiful creation, I think they are going to change the case to match the rest of their product line. I think mainly the keyboard though, their new keyboard matches the Macbook and the Macbook Air now has the same keyboard and it's backlit which looks like it will be coming to the Macbook Pro. Also the Macbook Pro is missing a purely magnetic latch, it still has the hooks that are easy to break. If Apple is Apple they will update these things plus more just to stay current with their design philosophy.

A new trackpad is the only case redesign I'd expect this time around. I've never broken a single hook latch but I do agree that magnetic latch would be more elegant and reduce moving parts for durability.
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post #189 of 199
1/28/08 at 10:33am
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^The casual nature of internet conversations make it very difficult to pick up on the subtleties of informal speak. Perhaps we need a symbol before and/or after sentences or paragraphs to indicate when one in being sarcastic, facetious, satirical, ironic, derisive or sardonic.^

Didn't we go through this already?

If you have to explain that it's a joke, then it isn't a very GOOD joke.

I vote that we continue to allow the errors to compound.
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post #190 of 199
1/28/08 at 8:39pm
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not a big difference between 2.5GHz and 2.6GHz.

not in performance, but..
ohhhh I'd say about 600 dollars difference in price
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post #191 of 199
1/29/08 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by Denton View Post

So what you're saying is that the gesturing found on the iPhone is not multi-touch?

If you want semantics, a perfectly acceptable usage of "multi" is to indicate "more than one." Do you understand what "semantic" means?

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I think I'm in a petty mood today... sorry all...

You need to understand that in this situation, you cannot rely upon the common usage of a term or word when you are referring to a patented technology that has been given a name by the creator of said technology. Just because "multi" means more than one when used in a normal conversation does not mean that you can use it when talking about multi-touch technology.

P.S. He used "semantic" properly. You were the one unable to grasp the fact that some words or terms can and often do have different meanings or implications when used in certain contexts.
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post #192 of 199
1/29/08 at 9:24pm
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dont be, i want a duet too. i never thought about drums though, i suppose you could get a mixer and mix down the input?

I know that I am stepping into the middle of a conversation, but yes, you can sub mix the drums down to two channels with the use of a mixer, but I do not recommend it if you can help it.
Reason being, if you do this you will only have two channels of audio to adjust and will have no control over whether the snare is too loud at one moment or another, for example.
As much as possible, record each mic as its own channel then you can play with the exact levels when you go to mix it instead of having to obsess over whether or not you hit that crash too hard or whether that last kick was softer than the two before it...
Check out the TASCAM FW-1804. I have one, and I dig it. You will have to get a mixer to really have 8 in 8 out with mic pre s, but it works and the pre s in the unit are great for the price...

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post #193 of 199
1/30/08 at 11:16am
The Duet is fantastic at what it is, a dual input firewire audio converter (A/D) with killer pre's built-in. To lay down individual tracks on-the-go its probably about the best there is for the money, the fidelity alone is better than anything else in the ballpark. It does have a quirk or two (you'll get used the breakout cable and eventually appreciate it, having just the one control for both the headphone out *and* monitor, well, not so much but you can work around it in Logic).

But opnsource is right, for capturing a large number of mixable inputs like a band, a well-miked drum kit, etc. for mixing later, you'd want to have a multi in/out A/D device with nice pre's. There are some affordable Mac-friendly devices out there (MOTU comes to mind) but personally I find to get the fidelity I want, that would put be in the territory of an Ensemble or two ($2K/per). Or worse. That's a whole different audience (pardon the pun) than the Duet.

So, if you want an amazing, ultra-portable FW audio interface to lay (or layer) down a track or two at a time virtually anywhere/anytime on your MB or MBP (and, back on topic, unfortunately *not* the MBA ), the Duet is worth your while to demo against the competition.

The most important advice is to not buy any of these sight unseen (sound unheard?). Judge with your own ears to decide which interface is the right value for you.

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post #194 of 199
1/30/08 at 2:48pm
I was re-reading some of the posts about the need for a redesign of the MBP.

I think we may be expecting too much. I doubt there is much scope to make it thinner. It just needs the revised keyboard, gesture touchpad, faster chips and you're done.

Why change it radically for the sake of it?
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post #195 of 199
1/30/08 at 6:50pm
Well my tax refund should be coming in a couple weeks. Are we going to get an announcement soon? I certainly hope they don't announce new MBPs and tell us they will be available in two weeks.

I wonder if the current MBPs are selling because alot of folks seem to be waiting........
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post #196 of 199
1/31/08 at 11:54am
Any News or Rumors about the new MBP?

thanks,
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post #197 of 199
2/2/08 at 9:54pm
Feb 12th looks like a legitimate possibility!
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post #198 of 199
2/5/08 at 10:01am
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Feb 12th looks like a legitimate possibility!

That's my guess. And hopefully the new 10.5.2 before then.
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post #199 of 199
2/7/08 at 6:07pm
Be cool if they make the hard drive access external like the macbook. Would be even cooler if they lower the price $100 on the base model or throw in an extra year warranty :-/
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