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Development of Apple's second update to the Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard operating system continued at a swift pace this week, with new pre-release builds tacking on nearly two dozen fixes and revealing a handful of subtle feature additions.

Arriving on the heels of Mac OS X 10.5.2 build 9C16 on Tuesday was build 9C20, which saw the software's Graphics Drivers broken out into a separate 48.8MB package labeled "Leopard Graphics Update 1.0."

In a set of notes accommodating the update, Apple reportedly asked that developers apply the graphics update after having first updated their systems to the new Mac OS X 10.5.2 build. The separation, along with other changes, helped reduce the initial Delta package size of the upcoming Mac OS X 10.5.2 Update from a 450MB download to an approximate 360MB download.

Unlike previous pre-release distributions of the Leopard Update, the latest build lists no known issues. The intended focus areas for developers has also been reduced considerably, according to those familiar with the distribution, from 37 core components to just 11. Among the remaining areas are AirPort, the Dock, Finder, Safari, Spotlight and Time Machine.

Meanwhile, 22 new code corrections were baked into the build, bringing the total number of documented fixes within Mac OS X 10.5.2 to over 115. Some of the latest target image noise in RAW files, iTunes ScreenSavers, the system's AirPort titlebar menu, and Time Machine.

Build 9C20 also included a couple of menubar interface tweaks in support of a new Desktop preference that will let users choose whether they'd like a translucent system-wide menu bar or not.

This addition, along with support for Remote Disc optical drive sharing on existing Macs, a list view in Stacks, and support for Apple's new Time Capsule backup appliance, are thus far expected to be amongst the more notable feature additions in Mac OS X 10.5.2.
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In 10.5.1 on my Alu iMac, the dock reappears after a minute or two when watching a movie in fullscreen mode in QuickTime player. I hope this has been fixed.
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I get this sometimes, too. I read that is is due to the Dock updating, like when an email or IM arrives and alters the Dock icon. Either way, I didn't have this issue in the developer builds of Leopard or any other OS X version.

It looks like 10.5.2 will be released sometime this week, unless Apple decides to wait a week for some unknown strategic reason.
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My largest issue concerning Leopard right now is the Photoshop (CS3) bug that prevents you from changing values via the keyboard for some of the various tools. I know there are workarounds but they're cumbersome to deal with. I also know that Adobe is laying this problem at the feet of Apple. Thus my question, does anyone know for sure whether this problem will be addressed in this upcoming 10.5.2. update? Any info, and I suppose reassurance, would be most welcome.
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My largest issue concerning Leopard right now is the Photoshop (CS3) bug that prevents you from changing values via the keyboard for some of the various tools. I know there are workarounds but they're cumbersome to deal with. I also know that Adobe is laying this problem at the feet of Apple. Thus my question, does anyone know for sure whether this problem will be addressed in this upcoming 10.5.2. update? Any info, and I suppose reassurance, would be most welcome.

I have read absolutely nothing about how 10.5.2 is affecting CS3. I don't have CS3 installed otherwise I'd check it out for you. Luckily, you will find out soon enough.

What is the reason that Adobe is blaming Apple for this CS3 bug?
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What happen with the support of time machine with an Hard drive over wireless?

I bought two airport express especially for this feature, did this will be fix in 10.5.2 or I need to sell my brand new airport extreme to buy a time capsule
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The reason itself is unclear beyond what the Adobe website is saying which, in brief, reads as follows...The fix will be provided through an update to Mac OS X Leopard. Consequently, it is not part of the Photoshop CS3 (10.0.1) update...Apple is collaborating closely with us to get this fix incorporated into a Mac OSX Leopard update.

Thus there's precious little hard info to work with. Its been very frustrating and continues to be so.

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I have absolutely nothing about how 10.5.2 is affecting CS3. I don't have CS3 installed otherwise I'd check it out for you. Luckily, you will find out soon enough.

What is the reason that Adobe is blaming Apple for this CS3 bug?
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New and better X3100 drivers at last?
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Although I've been using Leopard since 10.5.0 and haven't had any issues, this looks like the perfect release for those who like to "wait for a couple of point releases" before jumping in. I suspect another tick of Leopard sales after this hits the street.
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What happen with the support of time machine with an Hard drive over wireless?

I bought two airport express especially for this feature, did this will be fix in 10.5.2 or I need to sell my brand new airport extreme to buy a time capsule

MacRumors has the scoop on that news... http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/23/...treme-backups/

The answer is "no" in the current build, apparently.
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MacRumors has the scoop on that news... http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/23/...treme-backups/

The answer is "no" in the current build, apparently.

I have a feeling it will done by a simple hack. If TC can work with TM then surely it won't be too hard to do.

PS: A friend to d me that 10.5.2 is snapper than 10.5.1 and their system boots 2 seconds faster now.
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Keep in mind:
I have my TimeMchine working over FireWire 400, and it does slow down the computer, my applications, and my computer's overall responsiveness. I would not consider putting my TimeMachine drive over a wireless network and have it slow down my system even more, unless I have small data on my HD that doesn't need much backing up.
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Will 10.5.2 help with Safari's speed? I've found it to be so slow that I've moved to Camino.

thanks.
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Will 10.5.2 help with Safari's speed? I've found it to be so slow that I've moved to Camino.

thanks.



"Computer says...YES"
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I get this sometimes, too. I read that is is due to the Dock updating, like when an email or IM arrives and alters the Dock icon. Either way, I didn't have this issue in the developer builds of Leopard or any other OS X version.

It looks like 10.5.2 will be released sometime this week, unless Apple decides to wait a week for some unknown strategic reason.

They may want to have it go out the same time as the Apple TV update.
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They may want to have it go out the same time as the Apple TV update.

SJ said the Atv should be out in two weeks, which is early next week and before 10.5.2
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Okay here is my question. If I have a file server attached to an Airport Extreme through an ethernet port can I use TimeMachine wirelessly on my MBP and have it back up to my server? To me it sounds like people are only having problems when connecting drives via the USB port on the router.

I've been using Mac's for about a year now and have not yet upgraded to Leopard. I have been thinking about upgrading and purchasing an Air Port Extreme all at the same time. Getting one with TimeCapsule built in is an expense I am trying to avoid since I already have 1.5TB of storage.
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I have a feeling it will done by a simple hack. If TC can work with TM then surely it won't be too hard to do.

Maybe, maybe not. The problem is that it might be something that is fixed by new firmware in the Airport, and not all on the OS end.
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The reason itself is unclear beyond what the Adobe website is saying which, in brief, reads as follows...The fix will be provided through an update to Mac OS X Leopard. Consequently, it is not part of the Photoshop CS3 (10.0.1) update...Apple is collaborating closely with us to get this fix incorporated into a Mac OSX Leopard update.

Thus there's precious little hard info to work with. Its been very frustrating and continues to be so.

Now that Inuit Corporation is moving to Cocoa for Quicken, QuickBooks and Turbo Tax all requiring Leopard, I wonder how long before Adobe moves to what seems to me where they will go:

Trolltech Qt 4.5:

http://trolltech.com/developer/notes...rted_platforms

It's clear that when Photoshop Elements can be leveraged with Cocoa via Trolltech Qt 4.5 that Adobe would use that as a measuring stick on then what to do with the next version of the Adobe CS Suite.
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They either need to issue a fix for "Back to my Mac" or remove the feature altogether because it absolutely does NOT WORK as advertised.

I thought that I was the only one who was having problems until I read the Apple discussions. It seems that no one is able to get this feature to work outside of a home network.

Apple discussions for Back to my Mac: http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1247
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They either need to issue a fix for "Back to my Mac" or remove the feature altogether because it absolutely does NOT WORK as advertised.

I thought that I was the only one who was having problems until I read the Apple discussions. It seems that no one is able to get this feature to work outside of a home network.

Apple discussions for Back to my Mac: http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1247

Desktop sharing via iChat also has issues. Hopefully that has been resolved too.
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"Computer says...YES"

Are you by chance the only Mac user in your village?
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Are you by chance the only Mac user in your village?

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I have a feeling it will done by a simple hack. If TC can work with TM then surely it won't be too hard to do.

PS: A friend to d me that 10.5.2 is snapper than 10.5.1 and their system boots 2 seconds faster now.

Apparently there is a hack already called iTimeMachine that supports this. I haven't tried it yet, partially because I find airdisk to be so pathetically slow and cannot afford the two weeks it would take for the initial back up of my MacBook Pro
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Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, not around the eyes not around the eyes, look into my eyes... you're under. You will like the latest build of 10.5.2, there are no bugs in it at all and Safari is definitely snappier. 3,2,1 you're back in the room. Now, you were saying...?
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Glad to see the earth will once again spin now that people can tweak their menubar and dock.
Those last three months of the earth not spinning were pure torture.
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Glad to see the earth will once again spin now that people can tweak their menubar and dock.

It's not so much the tweaking as the drop in functionality and readability from 10.4.

I'm just glad apple is listening to their customers - anything that generates that much widespread complaint really should get fixed, regardless of how minor others may consider it.
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They either need to issue a fix for "Back to my Mac" or remove the feature altogether because it absolutely does NOT WORK as advertised.

I thought that I was the only one who was having problems until I read the Apple discussions. It seems that no one is able to get this feature to work outside of a home network.

Apple discussions for Back to my Mac: http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1247

I'm not sure thats true. I haven't used it, but i heard Rush Limbaugh on its radio show today saying he used Back to my Mac to get stuff from his home computer to his office computer.. then made fun of Windows users.... Apparently he is using it ok
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I'm not sure thats true. I haven't used it, but i heard Rush Limbaugh on its radio show today saying he used Back to my Mac to get stuff from his home computer to his office computer.. then made fun of Windows users.... Apparently he is using it ok

Rush Limbaugh is a Mac user? No wonder AAPL is down!
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Rush Limbaugh is a Mac user? No wonder AAPL is down!

he has been for years.. nothing new...
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I hope the fixes to Time Machine are good. Mine was working great for a month or so until it filled up the external FW disk. Now all it does is fail each time it tries to run. I've tried deleting the latest .inProgress file and excluding the folder it failed on but the failure just moves to another folder in the logs with the same error - trying to request 100MB, got 104MB free space then runs out of space writing the files and errors out

Looks like the feature is unusable for me at present. Shame as it's great when it works!
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I hope the fixes to Time Machine are good. Mine was working great for a month or so until it filled up the external FW disk. Now all it does is fail each time it tries to run. I've tried deleting the latest .inProgress file and excluding the folder it failed on but the failure just moves to another folder in the logs with the same error - trying to request 100MB, got 104MB free space then runs out of space writing the files and errors out

Looks like the feature is unusable for me at present. Shame as it's great when it works!

Try deleting folders with the earliest dates to make room. That is purely a workaround. It should automatically be alleviating enough space for the backup.
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They either need to issue a fix for "Back to my Mac" or remove the feature altogether because it absolutely does NOT WORK as advertised.

I thought that I was the only one who was having problems until I read the Apple discussions. It seems that no one is able to get this feature to work outside of a home network.

Apple discussions for Back to my Mac: http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1247

Back to my Mac has been working flawlessly for me outside my home network. Do you have AT-PMP or UPnP enabled on your home router? If you don't, the necessary ports won't be mapped to allow you to reach your computer through the router.

This explains how to turn it on for an Airport:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306673

This document covers other routers:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306803

Hope that helps.
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Wow, I can't wait! I wish we had a definite date but I guess we won't know until it's released which sucks. It was expected to be released during MacWorld but that came and went. Now the speculation is early February which I hope doesn't turn into late February, early March.
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Will 10.5.2 help with Safari's speed? I've found it to be so slow that I've moved to Camino.

thanks.

You'll definitely want to check your system. Safari 3 is very fast on my system. Perhaps a simple system cleaning, including Safari might help. I recommend OnyX for that. It's free and very good if you're not already familiar with it.
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Will 10.5.2 help with Safari's speed? I've found it to be so slow that I've moved to Camino.

thanks.

I'm more concerned with Safari being stable than speeding it up. Safari crashes all the time on my PowerBook and iMac G5.
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Try deleting folders with the earliest dates to make room. That is purely a workaround. It should automatically be alleviating enough space for the backup.

Yup, tried that... it works for a while (about a week) and then the same thing happens again. Guess it just doesn't work.
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They had better get the graphics problems figured out soon on the new Mac Pro's, or sales are gunna tank. I'm already holding off buying one until they sort it out.
I'm very upset that there has been no mention of a fix for all the people who had their Matshita drives disabled by Leopard. I guess the voice of a few hundred thousand doesn't matter to Apple anymore.
Tiger was a dream update, Leopard seems to be biting and scratching me at every turn. IMO, 10.5.2 should have been the first release.
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They may want to have it go out the same time as the Apple TV update.

Interesting idea... possible, but I'm not sure why they'd do that.

However, they did make a big thing about Frontrow looking the same on AppleTV and Leopard.... perhaps 10.5.2 needs to upgrade Frontrow to work the same as AppleTV? (still... that wouldn't require simultaneous releases....)
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I wonder if it's still on track for tomorrow...
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