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10.1.3 is out.

post #1 of 47
2/19/02 at 4:38pm
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Check your software update.
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post #2 of 47
2/19/02 at 4:42pm
"is it snappy?"
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post #3 of 47
2/19/02 at 4:47pm
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CD Disc Recording Peripherals:

* Expanded support for QPS, EZQuest, LaCie, Yamaha, MCE Technologies and Sony devices

Image Capture and iPhoto:

* Improved support for several digital camera models from Canon, Kodak and Sony

Graphics and OpenGL Improvements:

* DVD Playback on external VGA displays on PowerBook G4
* PowerBook video mirroring will be on by default when connecting to a new display
* Improvements for iTunes when the full screen visualizer is used

Networking and Security Improvements:

* Login authentication support for LDAP and Active Directory services
* OpenSSH version 3.0.2p1
* WebDAV support for Digest authentication
* Mail includes support for SSL encryption

The 17.3MB update is available via the Software Update Control panel

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just looks like another boring digital hub update
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post #4 of 47
2/19/02 at 4:53pm
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I installed 10.1.3 and I don't notice any speed increase on my G4 400.
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post #5 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:12pm
Sweeet! I will do some performance tests with Quake 3... Talk to you guys in a bit.
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post #6 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:15pm
So... any tweaks for a Rev D iMac? No
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post #7 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:16pm
Hopefully it'll get rid of all the problems the 10.1.2 update gave me.
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post #8 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:20pm
Fixed one thing for me: i have a 466 DA G4 and before with 10.1.2 i would put it to sleep fine but when it woke up it would lose all audio until i restarted. Now with 10.1.3 it wakes just fine with no adverse affects. Worth the 5 minute download and install in my book!
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post #9 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:21pm
Looks like UI and speed improvements are being hoarded for 10.2.
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post #10 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:25pm
My Que! 24x burner now works in iTunes (but I'll stick with Toast).
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post #11 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:45pm
What do people expect from a x.x.X update? Really.
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post #12 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:47pm
[quote]Originally posted by Solishu:
<strong>Looks like UI and speed improvements are being hoarded for 10.2.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who said 10.2 is going to be faster?

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post #13 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:49pm
[quote]Originally posted by sc_markt:
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Who said 10.2 is going to be faster?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Wouldn't you expect it to be?
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post #14 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:52pm
[quote]Originally posted by sc_markt:
<strong>Who said 10.2 is going to be faster?</strong><hr></blockquote>Several people have. Xeo has said it was noticeably faster in some areas and he was also the one who made those video clips of 6B11 back in December. I would imagine things have gotten even better in the three months since.
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post #15 of 47
2/19/02 at 5:56pm
Installing now. Let you know if I see anything good...
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post #16 of 47
2/19/02 at 6:00pm
Damn you Apple!! Why must you destroy my 14 day uptime??!!
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post #17 of 47
2/19/02 at 6:28pm
Well, so far nothing special. Build 5Q45 and it seems the same over all. Not worse, but the overall, effect seems to be all under the radar stuff.
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post #18 of 47
2/19/02 at 7:22pm
[quote]Originally posted by cdhostage:
<strong>So... any tweaks for a Rev D iMac? No </strong><hr></blockquote>

No change to anything on my Rev. D...well nothing that i have noticed
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post #19 of 47
2/19/02 at 7:35pm
Hehe - already updated Fresh Apple with the news of 10.1.3 after finding it in Software Update.

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post #20 of 47
2/19/02 at 7:40pm
Scrolling is definitely better on my iBook 500 combo. Omniweb is noticeable as are long MS word documents v.X.

Frame rate on iTunes full screen visual is still 14-15.

QT looks to be the same.

Update was flawless. Didn't have all those printer drivers staring me in the face this time. That was nice.
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post #21 of 47
2/19/02 at 8:06pm
[quote]Originally posted by kcmac:
<strong>Scrolling is definitely better on my iBook 500 combo. Omniweb is noticeable as are long MS word documents v.X.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Wow, you're right. I didn't even notice that the scrolling was better, but now I do notice a difference on my iBook too.
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post #22 of 47
2/19/02 at 8:37pm
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
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Wow, you're right. I didn't even notice that the scrolling was better, but now I do notice a difference on my iBook too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Was going to say that it didn't make any difference to my set up but your right scrolling is better so i guess I just try it for awhile. Itunes full screen is much better- Dual gig w/cinema
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post #23 of 47
2/19/02 at 8:40pm
Seems like a good update all in all. SSL support in mail is all I been waiting for

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post #24 of 47
2/19/02 at 8:48pm
[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:
<strong>What do people expect from a x.x.X update? Really.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #25 of 47
2/19/02 at 8:55pm
iPhoto opens faster as well.
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post #26 of 47
2/19/02 at 9:13pm
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So do several other things:

TextEdit: 1 bounce
Sys Prefs: 2 bounces
iTunes: 4 bounces
Sherlock: 3 bounces

Terminal is now the poky one at 5 bounces.

Keen.

edit: This is on a 500MHz PowerBook (FireWire).

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post #27 of 47
2/19/02 at 9:30pm
[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
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Well... you had to ask...</strong><hr></blockquote>

I wouldn't mind that either
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post #28 of 47
2/19/02 at 9:38pm
Maybe it's a little faster, maybe it's just prebinding. Then again, the kernel was updated to 5.3, from 5.2.2 being the latest previous kernel. Top seemed to run a bit leaner.

Over-all, it's nothing to really write home about.

Looks like getaddrinfo is still broken though.

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post #29 of 47
2/19/02 at 9:39pm
Ok, I have done some testing in Quake 3 before and after I installed the update, and performance did not change very much. My system is an iMac DV 450 with 384 megs of ram, 40 gig 7200 rpm Western Digital HD. (and of course the Rage with 8mb v-ram) All tests done with the four.dm_67 demo.

Results BEFORE upgrade (10.1.2):
1-39.4s 30.2fps
2-39.3s 32.1fps
3-39.3s 32.0fps
Average-~39.3s ~31.43fps

Results AFTER update:
1-39.6s 31.8fps
2-39.8s 31.7fps
3-39.7s 31.7fps
Average-~39.7s ~31.7fps

I think performance is pretty much the same, even though the results were down slightly. It DOES seem it is a bit smoother overall, though. Also, I am seeing the spinning beachball less, and iTunes does much better.. If someone could tell me how I get iTunes to show the FPS, I would appreciate it. Thanks a bunch.

[EDIT] Whoops. Meant to post all specs-
800x600@16bit overall.
Lightmap, Texture settings 1 down from top setting, Geometry medium.

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post #30 of 47
2/19/02 at 11:29pm
[quote]Originally posted by Jeremiah Rich:
<strong>If someone could tell me how I get iTunes to show the FPS, I would appreciate it. Thanks a bunch.</strong><hr></blockquote>Press the letter 'F' while the visualizer is on.
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post #31 of 47
2/19/02 at 11:36pm
By the way, I've noticed that the iTunes visualizer is negatively affected by displaying text over it, such as the framerate. For me there is a noticable increase in speed from the framerate display being on to being off.
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post #32 of 47
2/20/02 at 12:00am
Ahh, a update.. thats nice..

Let you know if I notice anything in particular when i get home..

Seems nice with a small speedbumb thou, scolling is a b*tch when you have many applications running. (Sometimes)
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post #33 of 47
2/20/02 at 3:50am
[quote]Originally posted by kcmac:
<strong>Scrolling is definitely better on my iBook 500 combo. Omniweb is noticeable as are long MS word documents v.X.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

First thought the same on my PB 400, until I realized that my display settings were sat back to 32k colors after installation - so nothing special about this update (in that case at least)
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post #34 of 47
2/20/02 at 5:29am
But does it fix that stupid DS_Store bug? It seems like I have to rm that file everytime I reboot just to keep my finder window preferences each time I close a window. Soooo many people have this problem...it has to be a bug, right?
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post #35 of 47
2/20/02 at 6:07am
the installation seems to change the clock to show day of the week and 24hour clock, using the network time server.

maybe in anticipation of 20.02pm 20/02/2002 (200220022002) a palindromic moment this evening (except for the US, as have days and months the other way round)

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post #36 of 47
2/20/02 at 8:27am
I'll do the update through OS X, but is there a link on Apple's site to download it too? I have backed up every update and I'd rather download and back-up this first before using the OS X update feature...
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post #37 of 47
2/20/02 at 8:44am
Smooth update. Works well and seems to have a smoother GUI ( if not and I know people will balk at this but, snappier ). iTunes still doesn't recognise my QPS 24 x 10 x 40 firewire burner.
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post #38 of 47
2/20/02 at 8:57am
[quote]Originally posted by DasDaSein:
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First thought the same on my PB 400, until I realized that my display settings were sat back to 32k colors after installation - so nothing special about this update (in that case at least)</strong><hr></blockquote>

You know I just noticed that too. too bad. I was happy at first. Actually, I don't ever really notice the difference between thousands and millions of colors except when I have a terminal window open because I use some transparency. Ah, the cost of style
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post #39 of 47
2/20/02 at 9:06am
Well, I was happy at first because people were claiming that their Yamaha SCSI CD-R's were working. I thought mine would too too, as the Finder and iTunes started to burn my CD's just fine... but then they both try to burn for a minute and then crap out with some generic error.



Back to Toast with me...
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post #40 of 47
2/20/02 at 9:11am
iPhoto seems to resize thumbnails much quicker on my Pismo. I haven't noticed much change otherwise.
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