Originally Posted by TenoBell
Keep up Baggins we were talking about Orange and O2. They are the ones who made the projections that were not met.
Teno, no one CARES much about Orange and O2, beyond QoS/network/pricing issues... they are mainly just orifices for Apple to sell iPhones through, far as Apple investors are concerned.
But I guess if I didn't want to talk about how Apple's stock did indeed get punished by investors in part for sub-par European iPhone sales and a soft Euro sales outlook going forward, then changing the subject to the Euro carriers' stock price would be one way to do it.
I wasn't talking about the iPhone. I was talking about Euros and their demands for 3G. They talk about it more than they actually use it.
Sigh. Teno, you've been told repeatedly that the very nature
of the iPhone drives data usage dramatically, and that the better Internet experience on the iPhone is a game-changer in terms of data usage (much more so if given a data connection that isn't crap slow).
You even own
one, so you know this. So I'm just going to assume that you're being willfully obtuse here, and are ignoring some very obvious facts here only because they don't fit in with your argument. Sad.
That's not what I said at all. Once again, "you taking what I've said out of context as you do to confuse the issue when you don't have solid argument".
LOL. Give it a rest, Teno. It was no accident that you saidData use has been low on phones with 3G because the user experience has been bad.
You were trying to give the impression that 3G had something to do with the user experience being bad, which is silly. The Internet user experience on smartphones was bad due to (take your pick) crippled minibrowsers, smallish screens (in some cases), and poor ease-of-use.
3G is actually a bright spot for said smartphones. The user experience is bad in other ways, but at least it isn't compounded
by having a crap slow connection.
blah buh blah tortured linux comparisons, even I don't know what I'm saying anymore
Looking at the charts above. My point is that 3G helps but is not the primary technology for a good mobile internet usage.
Teno, teno, teno... have you learned nothing
from our little chats? It's all about user experience. GPRS does not help provide a good one, and thus hobbles Apple's awesome mobile Safari browser and great ease-of-use. 3G, on the other hand, complements Apple's otherwise stellar user experience.
You can pull up all the Linux comparo charts you wish, but it doesn't alter that central fact. And until you can grok that user experience is what really
matters, you'll never 'get it'.
On the plus side, I look forward to you comparing 3G to Solaris, the BeOS, and chicken-fried steak in your next posting. Should be terribly relevant.