Originally Posted by VinitaBoy
So NOW Microsloth is concerned about "a credible alternative" in the software market?! Damn, but they didn't seem so "concerned" when they were 99.9% of the OS market! Fscking hypocrites.
Originally Posted by BYODKjiM
"Today, the market is increasingly dominated by one player who is consolidating its dominance through acquisition," he added.
Balmer doesn't see the irony in that statement, or does he just have a mental disorder?
Actually it's a "normal," i.e., highly common psychological mechanism: when we criticize others for having terrible qualities we use an internal frame of reference, i.e., our own worst qualities -- or our fears about our own worst potentials -- (whether we accept having them or not) and then simply project those onto those we criticize.
Very prevalent in political attacks, part of why couples have so much trouble understanding each other and totally on display in Ballmer's ironically true statement.
Watch people accuse each other in these arenas with this in mind and you'll see people most comfortable and adamant about attacking each other for things that are actually at least as true about themselves (or that they fear may
be true about themselves), if not much, much moreso
Originally Posted by monstrosity
This really is a very sad day.
I was always quite fond of yahoo.
Farewell old friend
Not so fast. Politicians (and not just in the US) are going to want to grandstand on this one for quite awhile, the courts may become involved, the tender has to be accepted and then even beginning to mesh the corp cultures will take lots of time. Years possibly.
While both Yahoo and MS will be forced to spin their strategic wheels, caught between uncertainty and regulations which prevent them from co-operating too closely before the deal's done. Which may be best news Google could want here..... ...so your old friend will not only be there, it'll be constrained from changing much.....
Originally Posted by always13
If yahoo is bought out by Microsoft, though i'd think the government would have issues with this... it's only a matter of time before they make Flickr a mess, just as they've made Hotmail into crap... grrr
Have you been USING Hotmail for the last few years? It was my original account, and kept for my non-personal address, partly because of all the subs/accounts tied to it, and to keep an eye on the competition once I switched to GMail. (I also have Yahoo account for a user group and 'cos the calendar txts my cell phone twice before an appt.
By any measure HotMail has improved from terrible to at least OK since becoming part of the Live stable. For one thing they've vastly improved spam filtering, my biggest complaint. And as they say, much, much more. PS: After long experience with all three, I'm still sticking with GMail.
Originally Posted by Restalot
Microsoft + Yahoo = Microhoo... I like it!
Better than Yahsoft......
Originally Posted by Nicnac
The government? What government? Our administration is more concerned with oil and war profits. They don't give a damn about anti-trust, corporate abuse, home-loan scams, or anything else as long as they continue to get richer. Sorry to be blunt but I haven't seen anything being fixed anywhere in the world to do with monopolies. In fact last time I checked, we are going backwards with AT&T buying back the empire they lost when the government DID actually care.
No, only you, in your articulate, balanced, studied way care.
The Justice Dept., SEC, etc., etc., just play video games all day, and all the emergency measures to respond to the subprime mess aren't taking place.
And the Euro-crats aren't constantly nibbling at MS's ankles (and increasingly at Apple's) -- for all the good gov't getting involved in business matters generally does. (Would you like to see Apple forced to divest themselves of iTunes because the link to iPods constitutes "restraint of trade"??)
Nor are you sorry to be blunt (though I'm sorry you're so passionate about being so ill-formed) -- rather, you get off on fulminating and regurgitating lefty talking points.
PS: "Governments" don't CARE. They are abstract things, not people. Which is why it's tragically misplaced to place one's hope for any kind of salvation on them, because the love will never be returned. Big Communist gov't's don't love their people a bit more than the capitalist kind. And not to burst anyone's bubble here, but Apple, Inc. as Apple, Inc. doesn't love you either. Sorry, kids.
Originally Posted by monstrosity
Microsoft are like the anti-Midas, things turn to poop instead.
Originally Posted by pmjoe
Why buy a company when you can steal their ideas and sell them as your own "innovation" for free. You won't have any problem finding a history of that with Microsoft ... and they're good at it!
As others have also said, they're also good at buying companies and running them into the ground. Yahoo is toast if Microsoft gets their hands on them.
PMJOE is closer here. It's probably more relevant to ask what Microsoft HAS contributed to computing rather than tracing the fate of all their acquisitions ('tho DOS -- which begat Windows which begat Mr. Softee -- was an acquisition).
MS did not
invent Disk Operating Systems, word processing, spread sheets, presentation software, databases, graphical user interfaces, mice, internet browsing, internet search, eMail, computer gaming, server OS's, nor much else it sells. Rather, through acquisitions, appropriation of ideas, aggressive marketing and then monopolistic practices, they "muskled' their way into all of them, and using brilliant folks (MS tries to hire the best) building on the deeply flawed foundations of Windows and IE, have produced a series of "barely good enough" improvements and evolution to stay there, with the fact that competitors have to write to the API's MS provides them keeping their innovation in check.
That's why Jobs' "Redmond, start your copiers!" quote still resonates. It has that gut level ring of truth.
Note: but neither did Apple invent any of those things for that matter...... ..and Apple's also bought companies which then just ceased to exist and if their tech ever saw the light of day again, it was well-masked, and have done a little shameless xeroxing from their own ISV's (and from Xerox for that matter, in a big way!). But I leave it to the rest of you to define what the differences and similarities are from there.......