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post #121 of 168
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Originally Posted by Tailpipe View Post

Sorry, guys, but you're not listening.

The special event is next week, not today.

7 days to go.

That event, if it is real, will be for the iPhone and iPod Touch SDK. Not the MB or MBP.
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post #122 of 168
Do you remember this words in all events?

"There is ONE MORE THING..."
post #123 of 168
Do you remember this words in all events?

"There is ONE MORE THING..."
post #124 of 168
Steve actually hasn't "one more thing"-ed in quite some time ... Don't remember the last one, but he definitely doesn't do it every time (unfortunately).
post #125 of 168
"There is ONE MORE WEEK..."
post #126 of 168
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

The $3000 I have been saving for a MacBook Pro just got spent on replacing my car transmission. I hate Honda.

Go Toyota, definitely.
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post #127 of 168
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Originally Posted by Cubit View Post

Go Toyota, definitely.

Agreed, with Toyota you will never have this problem. Honda always has some problem, and their car rusts faster. So much transmission problems too. Honda just looks better... but now Toyota looks better with their new MATRIX!
post #128 of 168
I really hope we get the MBP update on the 26.
I don't now about the rest of you guys but I'm really getting tired of waiting and the disappointment that there isn't an update yet.
If there where problemes why aren't they fixed by now?
post #129 of 168
One thing that makes me nervous is the low guidance Apple gave during the last financial conference call. This showed that they do not plan major new release really soon, more like by the end of the quarter the earliest. Also, this could suggest announcing a product which is not available immediately in quantity. But then, there is no reason Apple will announce new models which are not ready to ship, these kind of things happen only during big events like MacWorld or WWDC.
The worst case scenario, which looks more and more likely to happen, Apple will (already did?) stop the production of the old models and wait the channel to dry out, then release the new ones somewhere after March 15, so the overall effect on quarterly sales will be negative. This corresponds with the information from manufacturers regarding reduced Apple orders on portables. Compare this to hints about "product transition" during the conference call preceding the release of the new iMac. They expected lower margins then (which did not turn out to be true) but growth in revenue.
post #130 of 168
Shadow, supplies of MBPs are now running very low everywhere. i would say channel supply is now all but exhausted globally.

That means something has to come soon to fill the void. If it doesn't, Apple's Q1 sales will be a comparative bloodbath. Intel delivering Penryn late has impacted Apple's original estimates, hence the cautious note. Luckily, every other PC manufacturer is equally affected. But now that competitors are rolling out new machines, Apple must follow suit. It cannot delay.

Given that we are effectively half way through Q1 now, Apple has to balance the need to hit sales targets with a desire to have a stellar Q2. To me, that points towards a late February release not a March one.

That's why I suggested that February 26th would be the launch date for new MBPs.
post #131 of 168
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Originally Posted by Tailpipe View Post

Shadow, supplies of MBPs are now running very low everywhere. i would say channel supply is now all but exhausted globally.

That means something has to come soon to fill the void. If it doesn't, Apple's Q1 sales will be a comparative bloodbath. Intel delivering Penryn late has impacted Apple's original estimates, hence the cautious note. Luckily, every other PC manufacturer is equally affected. But now that competitors are rolling out new machines, Apple must follow suit. It cannot delay.

Given that we are effectively half way through Q1 now, Apple has to balance the need to hit sales targets with a desire to have a stellar Q2. To me, that points towards a late February release not a March one.

That's why I suggested that February 26th would be the launch date for new MBPs.

i really hope you are right. I really want a MBP it is going to be my first and I'm sick of the waiting
post #132 of 168
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Originally Posted by Tailpipe View Post

Shadow, supplies of MBPs are now running very low everywhere. i would say channel supply is now all but exhausted globally.

If the supply is that low you are probably right. I don't know whether this is a fact or a guess. What I can see Amazon has stock, and Apple store is not an indication anymore (as it used to be a couple of years ago).
post #133 of 168
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Originally Posted by Tailpipe View Post

Shadow, supplies of MBPs are now running very low everywhere. i would say channel supply is now all but exhausted globally.

That means something has to come soon to fill the void. If it doesn't, Apple's Q1 sales will be a comparative bloodbath. Intel delivering Penryn late has impacted Apple's original estimates, hence the cautious note. Luckily, every other PC manufacturer is equally affected. But now that competitors are rolling out new machines, Apple must follow suit. It cannot delay.

Given that we are effectively half way through Q1 now, Apple has to balance the need to hit sales targets with a desire to have a stellar Q2. To me, that points towards a late February release not a March one.

That's why I suggested that February 26th would be the launch date for new MBPs.

I am not sure why you are saying it is running dry, my local Apple store has over 50 MBP in stock and my local Best Buy has boxes of them stocked behind a locked fence storage unit. Also, if the event for the launch is on the 26th, then why have no invitations surfaced yet? I don't think it will be next week. Maybe mid March!
post #134 of 168
would apple maybe release the new MBP silently and let the consumers handle the hoo-haa?
post #135 of 168
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Originally Posted by Cubit View Post

Go Toyota, definitely.

Consumer Reports (yeah, I know, those guys) used to unequivocally recommend Toyota as an option for any car in their line, but in the past year or so as Toyota has grown larger the quality has apparently begun to fall off. Probably unavoidable, really, when you think about what it takes to ramp up production.

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post #136 of 168
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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

Consumer Reports (yeah, I know, those guys) used to unequivocally recommend Toyota as an option for any car in their line, but in the past year or so as Toyota has grown larger the quality has apparently begun to fall off. Probably unavoidable, really, when you think about what it takes to ramp up production.

Well John B. as far as corporations go, Toyota is one of the most efficient. "Toyota Production System" is the corporate business model with respect to effective and efficient human performance systems. I have never owned a Toyota, but I doubt the quality of their products has begun to "fall off" as you say.

As someone who has been one of the "Mac Faithful" since the mid 80's, I wish I could say the same for AAPL!!!! Apple isn't a "We" company anymore, it's an "Us and Them" company!!!
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post #137 of 168
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Originally Posted by ATLienGeorgia View Post

I am not sure why you are saying it is running dry, my local Apple store has over 50 MBP in stock and my local Best Buy has boxes of them stocked behind a locked fence storage unit. Also, if the event for the launch is on the 26th, then why have no invitations surfaced yet? I don't think it will be next week. Maybe mid March!

Because you don't need an event to announce upgraded Macbook and MacBook Pros. A simple press release and Apple Store update is all Apple needs. After all, we all know what a Macbook does. We do not need an event to tell us.
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post #138 of 168
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Originally Posted by aresee View Post

Because you don't need an event to announce upgraded Macbook and MacBook Pros. A simple press release and Apple Store update is all Apple needs. After all, we all know what a Macbook does. We do not need an event to tell us.

Exactly. Plus, the new MacBook Pro will likely only have features that the Air and MacBook already have (ie. magnetic latch, new keyboard, more curves, easier to replace hard drive, etc...). We don't need an event showing off features we've all seen before!

Sh*t or get off the pot, Apple!
post #139 of 168
A local Apple store in NL has an offer on the MBP; 4GB upgrade costs EURO 99. Normal retail price is EURO 660.

(Here is the ad)
post #140 of 168
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Originally Posted by MacLemming View Post

Well John B. as far as corporations go, Toyota is one of the most efficient. "Toyota Production System" is the corporate business model with respect to effective and efficient human performance systems. I have never owned a Toyota, but I doubt the quality of their products has begun to "fall off" as you say.

Its not like I just made it up or anything. Toyota could probably coast quite awhile on just their reputation but apparently the quality really has begin to "fall off".

Toyota skids in reliability rankings (cnn.com)

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The Toyota brand has lost its top position for iron-clad reliability, according to an influential Consumer Reports survey released Tuesday.

The survey dropped Toyota from first to fifth place - behind Honda, Acura, Scion and Subaru - in average vehicle reliability. The rankings are based on average predicted reliability for all models sold under a given brand.

Brands made by Toyota Motor Co. and Honda Motor Co. still dominate the rankings: Scion is Toyota's low-priced car brand and Acura is Honda's luxury car brand.

Consumer Reports said it no longer recommends V6 versions of Toyota's Camry or four-wheel-drive V8 versions of its Tundra pick-up because of poor reliability.

In the past, because Toyota products have so consistently proved reliable, the magazine would assume at least average reliability for Toyota's brand new cars, without waiting for survey data from owners.

But from now on, the magazine will wait for a full year of reliability survey data to come in before it recommends a Toyota product - as it does with most other manufacturers.

Like I said, its hard to scale quality.

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post #141 of 168
Amazon UK offering special discount on MBP 17 inch that must be claimed by Saturday tomorrow. John Lewis retail stores have no availability in any of their London department stores. Apple store in Regent Street has very few left.(Also completely sold out of MBA).
post #142 of 168
So do you think we will finally get the update on the 26? or do you think we will have to wait?
post #143 of 168
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Originally Posted by samoske View Post

So do you think we will finally get the update on the 26? or do you think we will have to wait?

If Apple is trying for a product update every week, they might try to spread them out a bit. Next week is their claimed deadline for the SDK. It might not get big fanfare or an event. New MBPs probably won't get one either, there hasn't been an event for MB/MBP updates in quite a long time, possibly never except for their original introductions.
post #144 of 168
mahk,

i Think that In the last EVent (MacWorld Expo 2008) Steve Jobs said again "There is one more thing" and that thing is the MACKBOO AIR, do you remember?

Sorry Mahk, i go to see now in youtube, and I´m Wrong!! my mistake.
post #145 of 168
Having new MBPs would be a nice distraction from the possibly late SDK release.
post #146 of 168
hey

what does anyone think...will there be a blu-ray drive option? maybe?
post #147 of 168
on the new MBP i mean...
post #148 of 168
We have had no other clues, invitations nor informations that could make us think that there will definitly be a event next Tuesday. The news we had today saying that "the SDK may be delayed" only came to confirm my expections that there will not be a event.

Since there will not be a event next Tuesday we should not expect huge announcements. No SDK but most probably a Mbp update instead. Apple has made announcements every Tuesday of the month, so this Tuesday shouldn't be an exception. Though Apple has no longer a lot of choices among their products to update and there's only one product missing in stores, that's why the Mbp seams to be the next update "victim".

If this uptade is about to happen then it should happen with certain specs: magnetic latch, multitouch trackpad, black backlight keyboard,... Because without this specs the Mbp will not follow the logic of the Mba design which means that Apple would have 3 distingued product categories. That's unlikly: will the Mba stand alone in its own category?
Thinking this way will bring us to the Tailpipe predictions.
post #149 of 168
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Originally Posted by ATLienGeorgia View Post

I am not sure why you are saying it is running dry, my local Apple store has over 50 MBP in stock and my local Best Buy has boxes of them stocked behind a locked fence storage unit. Also, if the event for the launch is on the 26th, then why have no invitations surfaced yet? I don't think it will be next week. Maybe mid March!

I'm not certain how important it is that local stores like Best Buy still have stock. Large corporate stores make their purchases make purchases weeks and months ahead, and Apple certainly doesn't give them any indication that they'll (Apple) will be releasing new models soon. Personally, I would never buy from a local store; I'd buy online from the Apple Store because then I'm assured that the unit I'm ordering is the most recent build--whereas purchasing from a local store (Best Buy or even Apple) isn't going to guarantee the newest build. I think watching the behavior of Apple's online store is a more reliable indicator of availability since product is shipped direct from China--particularly if it's a build-to-order unit--and if Apple has stopped production on a current model in anticipation of new updates, this will be reflected in longer shipping times.

As for no invitations having surfaced yet for a supposed Apple Event on the 26th, rumors suggest that the iPhone SDK won't be ready until mid-March, so this is one possible explanation. However, the test of time will reveal what happens as Tuesday is only a few days away.
post #150 of 168
It could also mean they might release the Time Machine on Tuesday. I thought the Time Capsule was the Time Machine........ its the last week before March...Sony, Gateway, Alienware, Dell, are now shipping with Penryn processors. How slow can Apple be? They shoulda named this company "Turtle".
post #151 of 168
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It could also mean they might release the Time Machine on Tuesday. I thought the Time Capsule was the Time Machine........ its the last week before March...Sony, Gateway, Alienware, Dell, are now shipping with Penryn processors. How slow can Apple be? They shoulda named this company "Turtle".

I bet Apple's move to Penryn will require a lot more chips than the other OEMs you mention. While other OEMs sell more machines the majority of their sales utilize older tech, not the latest and greatest.
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post #152 of 168
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I bet Apple's move to Penryn will require a lot more chips than the other OEMs you mention. While other OEMs sell more machines the majority of their sales utilize older tech, not the latest and greatest.

That maybe true but i think they will not wait to long anymore, cause the stock is running dry like everyone says. I really hope we get the update this Thuesday but I guess we will have to wait and see
post #153 of 168
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the stocks of MBPs on Amazon (UK) are virtually non-existent right now?

MacBook Pro 15.4" 2.2Ghz - Only 1 left in stock--order soon.
MacBook Pro 17" - Only 2 left in stock--order soon.
MacBook Pro 15.4" 2.4Ghz - Only 3 left in stock--order soon.

Here's me hoping the new ones get released soon, looking forward to getting mine
post #154 of 168
If the stock is really that low then isn't there a huge chance the update is finally going to arrive on the 26?
post #155 of 168
Well I've recently posted on my blog that they were updated when I went to the Apple Store
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EDIT:It's the one after please tell people about my blog!
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post #156 of 168
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Well I've recently posted on my blog that they were updated when I went to the Apple Store
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EDIT:It's the one after please tell people about my blog!

Please tell me you aren't kidding. I just read your blog, and if that is true, that is great news. Did you notice anything else different about it? I can't imagine that you said to yourself, "Oh look, a new MacBook Pro with a larger track pad. That's cool. Who wants ice cream?" You must have stayed around and played with it and investigated. Plus if this is true, then it seems like there is a strong possibility that they will be available immediately.

EDIT: I think that I got overly excited. I'm with Posty. This is highly suspect.
post #157 of 168
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Well I've recently posted on my blog that they were updated when I went to the Apple Store
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EDIT:It's the one after please tell people about my blog!

This is very interesting! Did you notice anything changed except the multi touch? Is it the same design? Can you visit the shop again and make some pictures? Or did they took the new models away?
post #158 of 168
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Well I've recently posted on my blog that they were updated when I went to the Apple Store
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EDIT:It's the one after please tell people about my blog!

I'd like to go ahead and be the first to say how stupid this blog, and blog entry, is. There isn't a chance in hell they "accidently" put out new Macbook Pros without any notice. They wouldn't even get them in until Apple made a full announcement. I personally don't believe your story what-so-ever and I think it's just a cheap gimmick to get people to visit your blog.

There are already enough APPLE RULEZ MICROSOFT blogs. Please just stop, don't put yellow journalism in there to get some comments and viewers.
post #159 of 168
Everything was the same 2.0,2.2,2.4 GHz and the design was the same too
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post #160 of 168
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This is very interesting! Did you notice anything changed except the multi touch? Is it the same design? Can you visit the shop again and make some pictures? Or did they took the new models away?

Well they were like "quick take them away before another person sees it!" but they were also at the Fry's next door
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