Originally Posted by Jubelum
I just cannot see her giving up that easily. The actual acceptance of the will of the people, when at cross purposes to the ascension or power of a Clinton is generally not the tack. If they are going to SwiftBoat Obama, Mark Penn better get to it, the hour is getting late.
I was in San Antonio today and saw two different people in Alamo Plaza handing out "Latinos for Obama" literature and talking to people. Really surprising... and equally surprising to not see a single HRC shirt, sign, or volunteer at the same event- or anywhere else downtown. SA is supposed to be the HQ for the Hillary pandering to Hispanics.
Hillary does not inspire the grassroots, not any more than other establishment politicos of the Washington beltway - no more than Ford, Dole, Mondale, Kerry and a number of other well aged beltway characters. Newbies and outsiders have had their share of groupies and/or grassroots troopers: Reagan, Hart, McCarthy, and even Carter come to mind. Even Bill ran as a 'new and fresh' voice...an unknown Southern governor.
16 years ago I'm sure Hillary felt like the leader of oppressed women, and the Clinton's as a new left of center force...hence her hapless plunge into secret committees to reform medical care and opening the military to gays. But time and exposure has worn thin...she is just another Senator looking for the nod. Her women's issues personae seems as dated as Pat Ireland and bra burning. Her years of harping, carping, side stepping, and cynical manipulation has even worn out the Democratic faithful. Aside from a core of adle-headed swooning women who love virile men (Bill's groupies) and nasty hard nosed, pock faced women who hate virile men and/or hope Hillary is a closet lesbian(Hillary's groupies) does anyone really like the Clinton's any more?
The emotional loyalty (as versus habit based democratic voter) has swung to Obama. Both he and his team are natural organizers and one of these days the press is going to have to explain how they did it (rather than stand back in awe). Without the machine like top down orders of the Kerry/Bush election managers of 2004, the Obama team has an image of organizing from the grass roots upward - almost seamlessly. There is an idealism at work - not necessarily logical but real. And where Obama has really pounded Hillary has been with independents AND in the many caucus deligates...her people were apathetic and her get out the caucus vote was disorganized and uninspired.
Mind you, I am a conservative (classical liberal). But having been in politics in the past, and run a few grassroots efforts, I have to really admire the Obama effort.
There are many ifs that make one wonder how it might have been different. What if Hillary had run in 2004? What if Gore had run either in 2004 or 2008? What if Rudi had fought through Iowa and New Hampshire, or if Huckabee had never run?
Well, all this is history. Hillary has matured a bit. She has seen that being a Senator requires the decent treatment of one's peers, and (compared to her first Senate election) she no longer has to robotically repeat her managers lines in order to hold her rage in check (although they did tell her to force a laugh whenever she is ready to unleash...hence those odd moments she cackles).
Hillary does not treat subordinates any better (I recently heard a story by the Fire Marshall of UC Berkeley and what he heard when working with her crew...yep she still screams obscenities at secret service people).
But she knows the rules and she has seen her loyal donors flee to Obama, she knows her once all powerful machine's core are now on his side..she has found that all glory is fleeting. She has a small shot at the office again in 4 or 8 years. She knows she cannot win...and she knows the rank and file (which nearly booed her in the debate when she started ragging on Obama) won't rally to her support. The golden Clinton days are over...no rightwing bogymen to excoriate, no choir to sing amen.
So yes, she will go with dignity (much to my disappointment) and (I predict) campaign hard for Obama. I have always found that Bully's are the least principled people, once they get kicked in the gut they seek to regain power by pleasing the top dog AND pushing out for power in other directions. That will be Hillary's way.