Originally Posted by sslarson
According to you I won't unless I've worked for it.
I was addressing your (unsupported and faulty) assumption and claim of "big government efficiency" by providing an example where they did everything
through the government (very inefficiently as it turns out). In fact I could cite dozens of examples where government does things less efficiently that the the thousands of competitors in the free-market, private sector. This is the problem with big-government advocates, you assume that the state can do things more efficiently without trying to support this assumption with pesky little things like facts and evidence.
(Of course I'm arguing with someone who thinks that tax increases can actually help the economy to grow. Go figure.)
Your last statement, show me where I stated as such.
\ Looks like an incorrect interpretation of my position, which I haven't even stated to begin with.
And as a public servant, I've worked with the private sector on numerous occasions, overall I've found the private sector dealings I've had, to be quick AND
sloppy (at their end). You get what you pay for, I guess.
How can you even compare a totalitarian government to a democratic government, it make no sense whatsoever. It's apples to oranges.
Oh, and there's no such thing as a "free market" hundreds of billions of federal dollars provide for a socialized form of the "free market" otherwise known as corporate welfare.
Example, federal (and state/local) tax dollars fund road building, where heavy trucks produce virtually all of the subsequent damage to this infrastructure, the trucking industry couldn't exist without this form of corporate welfare.
The same is true of the navigation infrastructure (navigation channels. navaids, protective breakwater, jetty, and revetment structures).
Heck, the USA wouldn't even have one large shipbuilder, if it weren't for Navy procurements of their military watercraft, outside of that there are virtually no large ships being built in America (and there hasn't been for a long, long time), we wouldn't even be third rate by world standards.
The list goes on and on, automotive bailouts, airline bailouts, bank bailouts, heck if it wasn't for our extremely (per capita) heavy investments in defense spending, we couldn't compete with Airbus for passenger jets.
We should be investing heavily (with government backed funding) in upgrading/modernizing our rail infrastructure, because it's the second most efficient method (per ton) of cargo transport (after waterborne commerce).
High speed passenger/commuter trains you ask? China, Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, and Canada are kicking our behinds.
Big science is going overseas, because the federal government can no longer subsidize these efforts, as it once did.
In so many ways, these past seven years have been an utter nightmare, bad fiscal policies, being the main root of all these problems we now face.
The main point about not having worked for the federal government, is that you don't see the people, the actual civil servants, actually doing their jobs, you only see it from the top down, so that if you haven't been in the trenches you really have no idea how hard a typical civil servant works. At least the way I and my fellow coworkers have done and will continue to do.
So flatly stating that "big" government is less efficient than small government, just doesn't make sense, sure go ahead, eliminate all non-discretionary spending, and see what happens, it would make the Great Depression look like a cakewalk by comparison.
I see the common good that federal services provide, come up with a better system than the one we have now, but please leave your ideologies at the door, TYVM.