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post #1 of 120
3/10/08 at 5:09pm
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Gov. Spitzer linked prostitution ring:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

Well done, former Attorney General and Head Douche Bag!


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post #2 of 120
3/10/08 at 5:15pm
At least it was with a woman.
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post #3 of 120
3/10/08 at 6:12pm
Last I heard he was being charged with structuring payments just under the amount required for federal reporting. So, it's basically one form of the white-collar crime he'd been fighting all the while. Not good any way you look at it. Wonder what the punishment is for conviction? Fine?

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At least it was with a woman.

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post #4 of 120
3/10/08 at 7:27pm
If I did that my wife's anger over the prostitute would be eclipsed by how much I spent on it.
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post #5 of 120
3/10/08 at 7:30pm
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If I did that my wife's anger over the prostitute would be eclipsed by how much I spent on it.

That's why you have to keep her bitch ass out of the finances.
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post #6 of 120
3/10/08 at 7:44pm
Right now she's reconciling the check book right next to me. "$5000 charge? Um that can' t be right. I think it supposed to be $50. Don't bother with it. I'll call be bank in the morning get it resolved."

Then I run out and buy a codpiece.
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post #7 of 120
3/10/08 at 8:09pm
I'd be ready to say this is none of anyone's business, and who gives a damn, but since Spitzer made his name as a tenacious prosecutor, and some of those cases were prostitution rings, he deserves to go down (in the legal and career sense) for this, just for the hypocrisy factor.
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post #8 of 120
3/10/08 at 8:21pm
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I'd be ready to say this is none of anyone's business, and who gives a damn, but since Spitzer made his name as a tenacious prosecutor, and some of those cases were prostitution rings, he deserves to go down (in the legal and career sense) for this, just for the hypocrisy factor.

Yup. Good riddance.

Interestingly, my NY friends tell me that he was pushed up to the Gov's office because no one wanted him as AG because he was investigating people left and right. Seems like he was really just pushed out front so he could be taken down hard.

At any rate, good riddance.
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3/10/08 at 8:29pm
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Interestingly, my NY friends tell me that he was pushed up to the Gov's office because no one wanted him as AG because he was investigating people left and right. Seems like he was really just pushed out front so he could be taken down hard.

So you think he was set up? I can imagine him becoming president in a few years if he had not gotten caught. And it wasn't a $5000 hooker, it was a $2500 hooker and a $1900 retainer.
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post #10 of 120
3/10/08 at 8:51pm
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So you think he was set up? I can imagine him becoming president in a few years if he had not gotten caught. And it wasn't a $5000 hooker, it was a $2500 hooker and a $1900 retainer.

I believe it is possible he was set up insofar as his proclivities were known to people who wanted him out of politics. Beyond that, who knows.
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post #11 of 120
3/10/08 at 9:52pm
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That's why you have to keep her bitch ass out of the finances.

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post #12 of 120
3/10/08 at 10:32pm
midwinter's right, we'll never know -- usually people breath a scab on the end of their nose until the political calculus reaches a tipping point. Most of these bureaucrats have long histories, and the colorful reputations and nicknames to go with it.

Otherwise, nobody really talks -- talking gets you shut out of the club. Everything else is fire for effect.

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post #13 of 120
3/10/08 at 10:35pm
he's been more or less nullified by his inability to be a politician...

this is just the icing...
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post #14 of 120
3/11/08 at 1:32am
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-- usually people breath a scab on the end of their nose until the political calculus reaches a tipping point.....

Unless the donkey on their shoulder topples the banana basket.
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post #15 of 120
3/11/08 at 4:53am


Wittgenstein would probably say that.
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post #16 of 120
3/11/08 at 5:58am
I would encourage both of you jokers to get a little closer to your respective local politics -- in my experience, it bears a striking resemblance to what you see on The Wire. (at least through the 3rd season)

Point being, it's not about the hookers.

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3/11/08 at 6:20am
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Spitser was found out because his wire transfers looked funny - they were looking for bribes and found hookers.

He will be prosecuted for "Structuring" money transfers - does anybody know what this means? What do you have to be doing to run foul with this law? I wire transfer money all the time, just want to keep my feet clean.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4424507&page=1
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post #18 of 120
3/11/08 at 6:30am
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Maybe you should lighten up a tad?

A joke's a joke.
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post #19 of 120
3/11/08 at 7:03am
I don't think he was setup but I do think his high profile made him visible in the investigation. Who better to spill dirt about?

The WSJ has hated him for a while. Here's their obit'


Spitzer's Rise and Fall
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post #20 of 120
3/11/08 at 8:05am
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I would encourage both of you jokers to get a little closer to your respective local politics -- in my experience, it bears a striking resemblance to what you see on The Wire. (at least through the 3rd season)

Point being, it's not about the hookers.

Right.

But just wait until you get to the end.
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post #21 of 120
3/11/08 at 8:25am
Here's some advice to all the mayors and governors and hopefuls of all kinds. DON'T USE YOUR GOVERNMENT ISSUED TEXT MESSENGER TO ARRANGE HOOKUPS WITH YOUR GIRLFRIENDS! And then when you are caught lying about it DON'T USE YOUR GOVERNMENT ISSUED TEXT MESSENGER TO TALK ABOUT TO YOUR EX-GIRLFRIEND!

Oh and don't send email and don't use your credit card to buy illegal porn.
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post #22 of 120
3/11/08 at 10:02am
Looks like he is shutting it down.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...zer/index.html


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post #23 of 120
3/11/08 at 11:30am
If he had just cheated it would have been "okay". The mayor of LA was caught cheating and he still has a job and political life.
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post #24 of 120
3/11/08 at 11:48am
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If he had just cheated it would have been "okay". The mayor of LA was caught cheating and he still has a job and political life.

I think he has worries far beyond high dollar whores. He has the feds on his tail.
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post #25 of 120
3/11/08 at 1:36pm
What is it with people with power? I guess they must think they are untouchable.
Anyway he must have been thinking with his little head.
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post #26 of 120
3/11/08 at 2:08pm
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post #27 of 120
3/11/08 at 2:40pm
...but I decided that it would be better to post here.

1. Elliot Spitzer supposedly earned Hillary Clinton's anger with his driver's license for illegal aliens idea.
2. Elliot Spitzer's supposed to be a Super Delegate.
3. He is supposed to have Come Out (ho, ho) in favor of Hillary Clinton.
4. One or possibly two of the Super Delegates might owe the Clintons A Big Favor for this/that/and the other thing.
5. It looks like Hillary's only chance to win the nomination is with the Super Delegates.
6. Like she does with the Republicans (thanks to her care free days going over the known FBI Files in the White House), she might know everything that there is to know about the crop of Super Delegates.

Is it within the realm of possibility that the exposure of Eliot Spitzer's prostitution problem is a Clinton Operation, the purpose of which would be to remind the Super Delegates where their bread is buttered and what could happen to them if events don't unfold in a way favorable to Team Clinton?

Is that remotely possible? What are your thoughts?

If it's true, would you approve of these ground breaking, winning tactics? And if it's true, what 16 ounce balls she might have, eh?

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post #28 of 120
3/11/08 at 3:16pm
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...but I decided that it would be better to post here.

1. Elliot Spitzer supposedly earned Hillary Clinton's anger with his driver's license for illegal aliens idea.
2. Elliot Spitzer's supposed to be a Super Delegate.
3. He is supposed to have Come Out (ho, ho) in favor of Hillary Clinton.
4. One or possibly two of the Super Delegates might owe the Clintons A Big Favor for this/that/and the other thing.
5. It looks like Hillary's only chance to win the nomination is with the Super Delegates.
6. Like she does with the Republicans (thanks to her care free days going over the known FBI Files in the White House), she might know everything that there is to know about the crop of Super Delegates.

Is it within the realm of possibility that the exposure of Eliot Spitzer's prostitution problem is a Clinton Operation, the purpose of which would be to remind the Super Delegates where their bread is buttered and what could happen to them if events don't unfold in a way favorable to Team Clinton?

Is that remotely possible? What are your thoughts?

If it's true, would you approve of these ground breaking, winning tactics? And if it's true, what 16 ounce balls she might have, eh?

V/R,
Aries 1B

Sammi Jo, is that you?

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post #29 of 120
3/11/08 at 3:28pm
Haha! Somehow, everything comes down to Clinton. Spitzer already was a Clinton supporter. It makes no sense for the Clintons to have taken him out, when his replacement, an African-American, is more likely to be an Obama supporter. They've almost certainly lost a superdelegate.
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post #30 of 120
3/11/08 at 3:42pm
I think Paterson's actually a Clinton supporter. But yeah, they still lost a superdelegate.

Oh just found out the penalty for structuring is up to 5 years in jail.

*Edit. Yep. Big Clinton fan.
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post #31 of 120
3/11/08 at 7:24pm
A lot of people were Clinton supporters before Obama showed up.
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post #32 of 120
3/11/08 at 7:45pm
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Sammi Jo, is that you?


"Kill one to terrify 10,000." Not that there's anything wrong with that; of course not!

You've got to figure that this delegate dependent scenario (where the decision would come down to Super Delegates) had to have been considered in the Risk Plans of the Clinton Campaign. It would be interesting to see the mitigation plan.

Even if it's not part of some Grand Plan, there are Super Delegates who'll wonder and worry.... Like the Foster 'death', we'll never, never, never know the truth.

They're saying on TV that Spitzer spent $80,000 on hookers. What a man!

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3/11/08 at 7:54pm
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They're saying on TV that Spitzer spent $80,000 on hookers. What a man!

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When you're as ugly as him you have to.


He should have just *&^$%ed a portly aid and been done with it. I bet he could have talked her into "unsafe" acts.
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3/11/08 at 8:03pm
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When you're as ugly as him you have to.

I actually think he is quite handsome - he has good teeth, anyway. This forum is looking bad like the CNN blogs where all the idiots hang out ("he is ugly", "he is stupid", etc). He is neither ugly nor stupid - a significant percentage of husbands patronize prostitutes, most just don't get caught...

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post #35 of 120
3/11/08 at 8:06pm
Strasser: My impression was that he was just another blundering American.

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3/11/08 at 9:15pm
...and in that same vein -- but on the press coverage:

Louis: We haven't quite decided if he committed [ed: political] suicide or died trying to escape.

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post #37 of 120
3/12/08 at 6:26am
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I actually think he is quite handsome - he has good teeth, anyway. This forum is looking bad like the CNN blogs where all the idiots hang out ("he is ugly", "he is stupid", etc). He is neither ugly nor stupid - a significant percentage of husbands patronize prostitutes, most just don't get caught...

I think he is stupid. I think only a stupid person would abuse their public office as a moral crusading do gooder only to be effing call girls all the while. I think that's stupid.

Oh and he's an ugly poo poo head too.


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3/12/08 at 6:33am
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I think he is stupid. I think only a stupid person would abuse their public office as a moral crusading do gooder only to be effing call girls all the while. I think that's stupid.

Reckless and unwise: yes
stupid: no

stupidity: "lacking or marked by lack of intellectual acuity". He went to Harvard law school, stupid people don't do that.

And you think he is ugly just because he is losing his hair? What do you think of Patrick Stewart? Or Sean Connery? Michael Jordan? And besides that, what does his physical beauty have to do with anything in particular? I don't think that Bill Clinton is particularly attractive with his red face and really red nose, but the topic never comes up because it is totally besides the point (any point).
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post #39 of 120
3/12/08 at 7:15am
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Reckless and unwise: yes
stupid: no

stupidity: "lacking or marked by lack of intellectual acuity". He went to Harvard law school, stupid people don't do that.

And you think he is ugly just because he is losing his hair? What do you think of Patrick Stewart? Or Sean Connery? Michael Jordan? And besides that, what does his physical beauty have to do with anything in particular? I don't think that Bill Clinton is particularly attractive with his red face and really red nose, but the topic never comes up because it is totally besides the point (any point).

Dude...he's ugly AND stupid. Patrick Stewart he is not.
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3/12/08 at 7:15am
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Maybe you should lighten up a tad?

A joke's a joke.


Not if you're a militant feminist.
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