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Apple Switzerland has inadvertently revealed an upgrade to the company's travel router that takes advantage of the latest Wi-Fi standard.

Visitors to the Mac maker's Airport Express page for the European country are greeted with a description that clearly identifies it as a new model, as MacGeneration reports.

"Connect to the Internet, print, and share music from iTunes with any room in the house. Everything without wires. Now with 802.11n as standard," the description reads, translated from its original French.

As with the Airport Extreme, Apple promises as much as five times the speed as the earlier 802.11g standard, which is used by the current Airport Express model. The price and core USB printing and disk sharing features also appear to be unchanged from the original.

The slip is not known to have appeared on any of Apple's other pages but would signal the first clear change to the Airport Express hardware, which has been virtually unchanged since its introduction in June 2004.
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On the US store, the shipping time is 1-2 weeks. Has production been ramped down? I think so! Can't wait for an 80.211n version. And I can't believe Apple still has the page up!
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I will be first in the queue, just what I have been waiting for to give me a full 'n' network with AirTunes.

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Apple Switzerland has inadvertently revealed an upgrade to the company's travel router that takes advantage of the latest Wi-Fi standard.


"Connect to the Internet, print, and share music from iTunes with any room in the house. Everything without wires. Now with 802.11n as standard," the description reads, translated from its original French.

They speak French in Switzerland? I had no idea. At first I thought 'Ignorant Americans' then upon doing further research I found the Swiss have four offical lanuages German, French, Italian and Romansh. You learn something new everyday.
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They speak French in Switzerland? I had no idea. At first I thought 'Ignorant Americans' then upon doing further research I found the Swiss have four offical lanuages German, French, Italian and Romansh. You learn something new everyday.

Maybe you learn something new everyday.

Ignorant Australians.

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Maybe you learn something new everyday.

Ignorant Australians.

(I keed...)

Er you get to know a bit about Australia.
Australia is one of the world's most integrated multi cultural countries.... and currently our economy is booming. Funny that the price of macs doesn't drop... As for 802.11n...In the words of kent brockman I for one welcome our new airport overlords.
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Er you get to know a bit about Australia.
Australia is one of the world's most integrated multi cultural countries.... and currently our economy is booming. Funny that the price of macs doesn't drop... As for 802.11n...In the words of kent brockman I for one welcome our new airport overlords.

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Er you get to know a bit about Australia.
Australia is one of the world's most integrated multi cultural countries.... and currently our economy is booming. Funny that the price of macs doesn't drop... As for 802.11n...In the words of kent brockman I for one welcome our new airport overlords.

you forgot one of the racist countries too. Integration and demographics unfortunately is not related to degree of racism.
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you forgot one of the racist countries too. Integration and demographics unfortunately is not related to degree of racism.

I admit to being confused. Exactly what does the Airport Express have to do with your belief that Australia is a racist country? If you really want to discuss this, you can post a topic in the AppleOutsider forum. Sheesh.
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Back to the topic at hand..."n" in Airport Express.

Now add "n" to the mini and I'll take one of each!
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well I already have 2 AEBS in my possession; I never got on board the Extreme bandwagon because I never had a need for it.

Torn, though. I have them on opposite ends of the house, so I have good coverage and a strong signal all the way into the garage. BUT my Time Capsule should be on its way from Amazon in a little bit, and I wanted to keep that on a Full-.11n network to keep speeds up (wireless backups at .11g speeds? bah!). Was going to bridge the AEBS to keep airtunes going on the same network though, but I can't extend the range of my .11n network this way, meaning that I'd have to move the TC to another location to get full coverage, which isn't practical because I don't have any phone jacks for my DSL connection anywhere but on the far end of my house.

OR, I could buy one of these to extend the range to the far end, basically having parallel .11n & .11g networks going.

Seems overkill, I guess I could just sell my old .11g AEBS's and get one of these, and have all my problems solved, eh? Decisions, decisions.
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I Wonder if the new ones will last longer than the current models, If I can get 2 yrs out of one It may be worth buying. My second one is sitting in my study after lasting a record 8 months before going dead!! Way to go Apple "it just works!"
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...if I see correctly (or don't see you could say) . The page now no longer states 802.11n but is back to good ol' "802.11g and 802.11b''. I think it's too late to hide the gaff now that thousands of avid MacHeads have got a hint!
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Can anyone explain how n will boost performance over b or g, for consumers at least? I realize if you are in a corporate wireless network with much higher speeds than that offered by DSL and Cable. I just don't see the value or speed bump to use an n card at home.
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I Wonder if the new ones will last longer than the current models, If I can get 2 yrs out of one It may be worth buying. My second one is sitting in my study after lasting a record 8 months before going dead!! Way to go Apple "it just works!"

I'm still using one of the original silver ones.
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Can anyone explain how n will boost performance over b or g, for consumers at least? I realize if you are in a corporate wireless network with much higher speeds than that offered by DSL and Cable. I just don't see the value or speed bump to use an n card at home.

For Streaming video to TV, or for any type of file serving within the network.
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Can anyone explain how n will boost performance over b or g, for consumers at least? I realize if you are in a corporate wireless network with much higher speeds than that offered by DSL and Cable. I just don't see the value or speed bump to use an n card at home.

Range and signal are much better. 'G' would barely make it throughout our whole house with the brick and plaster and 'N' makes it all the way out into the backyard patio with a super strong signal. Syncing and streaming with Apple TV is much better as well.
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They speak French in Switzerland? I had no idea. At first I thought 'Ignorant Americans' then upon doing further research I found the Swiss have four offical lanuages German, French, Italian and Romansh. You learn something new everyday.

Yes, we have four official languages while German and French are the dominating languages. I'm a native German speaker and we learn French in school, the ones who speak French learn German. Italian and Romansh are quite unimportant, Apple doesn't even offer language support for the Italian or Romansh speaking people on their Swiss site. You can only choose between French and German...
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america, one of the worlds most culturally integrated nations. KKK is still alive and well there i beleive
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america, one of the worlds most culturally integrated nations. KKK is still alive and well there i beleive

Yup but ironic thing is if it was just the kkk [no caps on purpose], you wouldn't even notice racism; Too small to matter. So what does that tell you.
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They speak French in Switzerland? I had no idea. At first I thought 'Ignorant Americans'.

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Ignorant Australians.

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Er you get to know a bit about Australia. Australia is one of the world's most integrated multi cultural countries.... and currently our economy is booming.

And yet with all of that it doesn't stop some from making wide sweeping incorrect derogatory statements about and entire nation of people. It's good to know bigotry is alive and well in Australia.

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I've been holding out on an Express because I want the n compatibility. My current router is only g-compatible (stupid Vonage), but I have an n-compatible MacBook and potentially n-compatible iMac, so I'd rather have the upgradability should we decide to bite the bullet and get a Time Capsule or Airport Extreme.
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america, one of the worlds most culturally integrated nations. KKK is still alive and well there i beleive

There's a name I haven't heard of in a long time. If by "alive and well" you mean a few of them gathering in one of their mother's basements, I'll go along with that.
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you forgot one of the racist countries too. Integration and demographics unfortunately is not related to degree of racism.

Crap. racism exists everywhere. By and large australians will give a fair go...sure there are rednecks everywhere. Come to Australia and make judgements by being here long term. Sure there is an issue with indigenous affairs but a lot is being done to right the wrongs of the past... (See Kevin Rudd's stolen generation apology) I think you statements are quick and without substance. I think being a born and bred Aussie gives me a more unique perspective. If you want racism why not got to japan gaijin.
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So how 'bout that airport express!

Yeah......
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So how 'bout that airport express!

Yeah......

Sorry for going off topic, Actually Have a question, does anyone think that the new routers will incur that extra charge to make the "n" enabled? Also how did they fit the three n antenna's in... or is done on the card now?
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And what about it acting as a wifi bridge to provide wake-on-WAN to get that close-to-wireless capability of wirelessly waking my Mac from the internet?
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Crap. racism exists everywhere. By and large australians will give a fair go...sure there are rednecks everywhere. Come to Australia and make judgements by being here long term. Sure there is an issue with indigenous affairs but a lot is being done to right the wrongs of the past... (See Kevin Rudd's stolen generation apology) I think you statements are quick and without substance. I think being a born and bred Aussie gives me a more unique perspective. If you want racism why not got to japan gaijin.

Being born and bred there wouldn't give you a better perspective. Could actually be more skewed...Being born a minority over there or going there as a non caucasian person i.e. Asian or dark skinned person might give you a better perspective though. Japan, where I actually live and can give you a good perspective from in 2008 , that's racism on a level playing field. WAY different. It's every gaijin for themselves. As in every race besides Japanese can be discriminated against. It's not about a particular skin color or ethnicity. It's just a blanket discrimination based on being non Japanese. It's not good but it's nothing close to 'normal' discrimination. But like you said racism is all over the world. Just happens to be worse in some countries and most people know which countries those are. USA wins for #1 though. Yay.

At least we can live in a world with black and white macbooks. I guess the iMac multi color Bondi days were Apple's version of the 60's.
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america, one of the worlds most culturally integrated nations. KKK is still alive and well there i beleive

Nearly every country has one form of racism/culturism or another. The US is not unique in that regard.

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post #30 of 52
About time.

Why isn't there an 802.11n Airport Express was one of those questions I've had in my mind since my 802.11g AE blew.

The other question was why haven't they added Airtunes support to the Airport Extreme and Time Capsule. Grrr!
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Being born and bred there wouldn't give you a better perspective. Could actually be more skewed...Being born a minority over there or going there as a non caucasian person i.e. Asian or dark skinned person might give you a better perspective though. Japan, where I actually live and can give you a good perspective from in 2008 , that's racism on a level playing field. WAY different. It's every gaijin for themselves. As in every race besides Japanese can be discriminated against. It's not about a particular skin color or ethnicity. It's just a blanket discrimination based on being non Japanese. It's not good but it's nothing close to 'normal' discrimination. But like you said racism is all over the world. Just happens to be worse in some countries and most people know which countries those are. USA wins for #1 though. Yay.

At least we can live in a world with black and white macbooks. I guess the iMac multi color Bondi days were Apple's version of the 60's.

I've sometimes wondered if the "Japanese-brand" of racism became more pronounced post-WWII? What is it's sociological origin?

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Can anyone explain how n will boost performance over b or g, for consumers at least? I realize if you are in a corporate wireless network with much higher speeds than that offered by DSL and Cable. I just don't see the value or speed bump to use an n card at home.

Less interference from 2.4GHz cordless phones and microwaves. Also not that many people have it so less interference from neighboring wireless.
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Less interference from 2.4GHz cordless phones and microwaves. Also not that many people have it so less interference from neighboring wireless.

Does anyone know what frequency 802.11n operates at.

Also i heard about a new wireless 802.11y. Check it out here
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Sounds sweet, hope is comes out soon.
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Does anyone know what frequency 802.11n operates at.

Er... that article from Wikipedia you linked to has a table with the answer.
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I Wonder if the new ones will last longer than the current models, If I can get 2 yrs out of one It may be worth buying. My second one is sitting in my study after lasting a record 8 months before going dead!! Way to go Apple "it just works!"

Mine's been running 24/7 for 3 years now...although I don't actually use it too often...mostly it's just sitting there with the green light on. But, at least it "just works" when I want it.
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Unsecure at any speeds! You guys need to come over to the good side, VISTA!
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If Sony would update the PS3 to support 802.11n, I could eventually be "G-free".
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Er... that article from Wikipedia you linked to has a table with the answer.

that is what the final version of n should have. but right now they are on draft 2
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that is what the final version of n should have. but right now they are on draft 2

Apple's 802.11n Airport Extreme incarnation supports 5GHz (as well as 2.4)... some other brands (e.g., Netgear) that advertise 802.11n do not support 5GHz... one of the reasons I went for the airport...
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