Originally Posted by franksargent
Do you have an opinion
, I'm not sure now.
I heard (live) every word of Reverend Wright's, as well as all his answers to questions posed to him.
Reverend Wright represents an African American, yes?
Reverend Wright's sermons were taken out of context, via MSM sound bites, yes?[/quote]
Except in this case the context didn't make it much better.
And you are taking Reverend Wright's National Press Club's comments out of context, yes?
Reverend Wright gave as good as he got, yes?
That's the problem. At least for Obama.
Hagee isn't the only bigoted and intolerant "man of god" that McCain has sought the endorsement from. There are others.
Originally Posted by addabox
Good old reliable SDW-- you've never let us down.
Say, do those blinders hurt, bolted to your skull as they are?
Gentlemen: Let's go through this one more time. The situations are objectively different. Obama had a long-standing relationship with reverend Wright for 20 years. He didn't just attend church. Wright was working on his campaign. He baptized his children. The nature of the relationship was far more intimate. Comparing the McCain and Hagee situation is simply invalid. Even the comments in question are different.
I realize you both want the situations to be comparable. After, MCCAIN DID IT TOO! AND IT'S BEING IGNORED! WTFW#^@#$^^ But they're not. If you feel otherwise, I'd really like to read why that might be.
Originally Posted by screener
Again, news commentators yesterday, "Mischaracterized" Wright regarding the Aids statement.
eg. Fox news's account, was Wright believes the government created it to kill blacks.
The "guest" had to correct that statement, because of the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskege...Negro_Malealso
Wright said in essence, anything is possible.
The commentator waved it off as if to say, what's the difference.
One eg. of many out of context and mischaracterizations repeated all day yesterday.
So he's saying it's possible
that the US Government introduced AIDS to kill blacks, not that they actually did. Yeah, much better. Much.
Originally Posted by screener
Hard core Democratic Obama supporters won't "give a fuck"
Undecided, Independents, are the voters needed to win a Presidential election, right?
The 2008 version of right wing swiftboaters won't let this go, along with whatever else they can dredge up.[/quote]
First, I'd like to address what's not being said
in your post. The Left will have it's own swiftboaters, so let's not pretend they won't. but on that topic...can you show that the claims of so many of Kerry's fellow soldiers were untruthful? Were the clips of his congressional testimony fabricated? The fact is that the swifties were not discredited.
Now, let's take Obama. I mean...imagine...someone doing opposition research to see what kind of company the man keeps! Oh, but that's not fair! We can only do that to McCain.
Do you really think US voters are smarter this time around?
Ahhh. See, Kerry only lost because people were stupid and bought the lies of the swifties. It's not that they didn't like what they saw with him, that they thought he was a flopper of grand proportions, that he presented no real alternative to Bush anyway, and that his voting record was exceptionally liberal. They were just too dumb.
This is the kind of thinking that has lost your party elections for 30 years. The American people have a funny way of getting what they want eventually. They are no smarter or more dumb than they were in 2004, 2000 or at time before.
Do you think Obama is tough enough to deal with the onslaught?
No. And Obama, like you, doesn't think he deserves the onslaught (read: actual scrutiny of someone seeking the nation's highest office). You know why? Because, Barack is special. Even his wife says so.