[quote]Originally posted by TJM:
<strong>You might take a look at this:
" target="_blank">Motorola PowerPC Microprocessor Family, Today and Tomorrow</a>
Presented at Smart Networks Developer Forum, May 20-23, 2001. They focus a great deal on the e-500 core and the upcoming G5 chips. Yes, they're talking about the embedded chip, but it's silly to assume that they're putting all this effort into it if its going to be an embedded chip and nothing more. It is logical to assume that Apple is insisting they keep the desktop version under wraps. They may not be, but it is reasonable to suggest it.
Another interesting link: <a href="http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2001apr/bch20010410005320.htm
" target="_blank">Geek.com News</a> from April 2001. The article itself isn't much, but the reply from "Mot Insider" is:
"MOSR has misinformation... (1:50pm EST Tue Apr 10 2001)
...as usual. The G5 will not start out multicore and MacOS Rumors has the speeds wrong. On a 130nm process with SOI and copper, the 14 stage pipeline G5 will start at 1.6GHz and scale well beyond 2GHz. But before that we will see a 7460 G4 made on a 130nm SOI process, functionally equal to the 7450 but on an improved process. This G4 (codenamed Apollo), will achieve 1.2GHz and scall to most likely 1.7-1.8GHz.
Shortly (a quarter) after the debut of the 7460, you will see the 7500 on the same process in early 2002 with speeds between 1.6GHz and 2.5GHz. In late 2002 you will see the 100nm 75X0 start out at 2.4GHz and scale up to 3.5GHz. Also, MOSR neglected to mention that the 7500 will make extensive use of Rapid IO and have an on die DDR memory controller. The RIO ports will have a fast serial connection to several devices on the motherboard such as PCI-X bridges, peripheral controllers, ethernet and firewire controllers. The RIO bus is a serial 16-bit hub topology but runs at high speed (500-1000MHz). - by Mot insider"
[Note: This past summer Moto announced the renaming of the 7500 series to 8500.]
In light of what we know has transpired in the last 8 mo., he is very accurate on the Apollo information (particularly if they're what's coming next week at 1.2-1.4 GHz). That lends credance to his comments on the G5.
Those of you who claim there have been no reports of the G5 in the last two years ought to do a little nosing around on Motorola's web site and do a web search for "Motorola G5". You'll get thousands of hits. Yes, a lot of them are reports of a report of a report, but there are a few genuine nuggets in there, too. Its reliability is a matter of opinion, but saying it doesn't exist is ludicrous.
[ 01-15-2002: Message edited by: TJM ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'd be willing to give the first person that proves me (more like reminds me in a decade) wrong $100 that we will NEVER EVER see a 3.5 Ghz motorola processor powering a Macintosh computer.