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Except there were plenty of terror attacks during Bush's presidency post-9/11. Except under the obscure rules of terror ball, all those don't count.

 

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Yeah, Rudy must be an idiot. It's not like he must have meant post 9/11. See, only Democrats can misspeak. Republicans are just idiots and liars. After misspeaking, they must be horribly mocked. Then they must apologize and resign in disgrace. IOKIYAD.

And idiots also (conveniently) forget that the anthrax attacks were post-911 as was the Richard Reid shoe bomb attempt. But I guess those don't count either... for some reason. I guess. Even though the Richard Reid circumstances were nearly identical to the underwear bomber attempt. Barring the fried balls.

It couldn't be that Republicans like to skew the facts and even forget about those that are inconvenient for them. No way that could be true.
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And idiots also (conveniently) forget that the anthrax attacks were post-911 as was the Richard Reid shoe bomb attempt. But I guess those don't count either... for some reason. I guess. Even though the Richard Reid circumstances were nearly identical to the underwear bomber attempt. Barring the fried balls.[/

It couldn't be that Republicans like to skew the facts and even forget about those that are inconvenient for them. No way that could be true.

I can't know what was in Rudy's mind. But I do know those attacks were within a few weeks of 9/11. There were no attacks after that, correct? Either way...he misspoke. But as I said, that's not all it is to a Dem. It's an unforgivable statement.
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And idiots also (conveniently) forget that the anthrax attacks were post-911 as was the Richard Reid shoe bomb attempt. But I guess those don't count either... for some reason. I guess. Even though the Richard Reid circumstances were nearly identical to the underwear bomber attempt. Barring the fried balls.

It couldn't be that Republicans like to skew the facts and even forget about those that are inconvenient for them. No way that could be true.

Didn't a former WH spokesperson for GW also recently forget some attacks? It's not one person. It is a good number that is looking like a concerted effort because many of these people were high enough to know better.

During the election, a Fox announcer said something to the tune of Sara could see Russia... within days even McCain himself was repeating the mantra.

Somebody seems to be operating all of these idiots like puppets and playing the GOP supporters for fools. GW was too dumb to actually serve as president so I am certain the strings were playing him, too. And they want another puppet in Sara.

Speaking of Sara, did anybody see the Glen Beck love fest interview with Sara the other day? Fox is all over her.

 

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I can't know what was in Rudy's mind. But I do know those attacks were within a few weeks of 9/11. There were no attacks after that, correct? Either way...he misspoke. But as I said, that's not all it is to a Dem. It's an unforgivable statement.

You might have a point, if it weren't for the fact that every time Republicans "misspeak" in this way, it's in a way that's designed to make Democrats look worse and excuse the poor record of Republicans. Take Fox News, for instance. How many times during a scandal did they "accidentally" put an "R" under the name of someone involved in a scandal?
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Why does Harry Reid get a free pass? Why are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson not pushing for him to step down? If a Republican said the exact same thing as Reid, would he be treated the same?

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Why does Harry Reid get a free pass? Why are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson not pushing for him to step down? If a Republican said the exact same thing as Reid, would he be treated the same?

By other Republicans? Yes. Absolutely.
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Why does Harry Reid get a free pass? Why are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson not pushing for him to step down? If a Republican said the exact same thing as Reid, would he be treated the same?

Apparently Democrats are so racist that it is just better to ignore them and deal with the occasional odd muttering by a Republican. Reid's comments were so bad people ignore Clinton noting that Obama should be getting them coffee. Then we have to remember that nice noting by VP Biden that Obama was "clean" and "articulate."

It's like shooting fish in a barrel with Democrats. They are so racist that you can't even dent them. Might as well go for Republicans where wishing someone happy birthday can be turned into longing for segregation via the intent game.

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"That guy" has a "friendly relationship" with Obama (or rather Obama with him). "That guy" is an avowed terrorist...not a terrorist sympathizer mind you...an actual bona fide terrorist. And Bara---ehh...Change hasn't had to answer a single question about him.

Let me reply to you the Republican way: "You Lie!"

Bill Ayers not a terrorist. Unless you are saying the Dubya ignored such a threat and left the country open to terror attacks.

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You might have a point, if it weren't for the fact that every time Republicans "misspeak" in this way, it's in a way that's designed to make Democrats look worse and excuse the poor record of Republicans. Take Fox News, for instance. How many times during a scandal did they "accidentally" put an "R" under the name of someone involved in a scandal?

I don't know. How many times? Of course, I'm sure we couldn't find...I don't know...ONE MILLION examples of similar "mistakes" in the liberal press.

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By other Republicans? Yes. Absolutely.

You mean how Trent Lott was treated? That way? Oh wait...he was forced to resign by his own party. Riiight. Now I remember. Oh...and Rush Limbaugh. He lost his NFL commentator job because he said "McNabb hasn't been all that good...I think we have some social concern in the NFL...that a black quaterback does well." Righto.


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Let me reply to you the Republican way: "You Lie!"

Bill Ayers not a terrorist. Unless you are saying the Dubya ignored such a threat and left the country open to terror attacks.

Oh wait...

Let me reply this way: You're utterly ignorant. From wikipedia:

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Ayers became involved in the New Left and the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS).[10] He rose to national prominence as an SDS leader in 1968 and 1969. As head of an SDS regional group, the "Jesse James Gang," Ayers made decisive contributions to the Weatherman orientation toward militancy.[8] The group Ayers headed in Detroit, Michigan became one of the earliest gatherings of what became the Weatherman. Before the June 1969 SDS convention, Ayers became a prominent leader of the group, which arose as a result of a schism in SDS.[8] "During that time his infatuation with street fighting grew and he developed a language of confrontational militancy that became more and more pronounced over the year [1969]", disaffected former Weatherman member Cathy Wilkerson wrote in 2001. Ayers had previously become a roommate of Terry Robbins, a fellow militant, Wilkerson wrote. Robbins would later be killed while making a bomb.[11] In June 1969, the Weatherman took control of the SDS at its national convention, where Ayers was elected Education Secretary.[8] Later in 1969, Ayers participated in planting a bomb at a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket affair confrontation between labor supporters and the Chicago police.[12] The blast broke almost 100 windows and blew pieces of the statue onto the nearby Kennedy Expressway.[13] (The statue was rebuilt and unveiled on May 4, 1970, and blown up again by other Weathermen on October 6, 1970.[13][14] Rebuilding it yet again, the city posted a 24-hour police guard to prevent another blast, and in January 1972 it was moved to Chicago police headquarters.[15]) Ayers participated in the Days of Rage riot in Chicago in October 1969, and in December was at the "War Council" meeting in Flint, Michigan. Two major decisions came out of the "War Council." The first was to immediately begin a violent, armed struggle (e.g., bombings and armed robberies) against the state without attempting to organize or mobilize a broad swath of the public. The second was to create underground collectives in major cities throughout the country.[16] Larry Grathwohl, a Federal Bureau of Investigation informant in the Weatherman group from the fall of 1969 to the spring of 1970, stated that "Ayers, along with Bernardine Dohrn, probably had the most authority within the Weatherman".[17]
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post #451 of 518
Ah, Alabama Republican Sen. Richard Shelby...

Blocking all of Obama's appointments, including some for defense (remember how we're supposed to love our troops or risk being called un-Amerikan?) because he wants his pet projects, (though he claims its over defense concerns).

A tanker contract that has not been formally decided yet for 90 billion bucks.
A special bomb studies facility.

The Toyota plant in Alabama is idle right now... but he is saying nothing to Toyota.

Though I realize that Senators of all shapes and sizes use holds from time to time, this is pretty amazing: over 70 appointees., including posts that he is supposedly worried about.

 

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post #452 of 518
Newt Gingrich, GOP, spreading lies again.

Claimed on The Daily Show that the shoe bomber was an American citizen and therefore was read his Miranda rights. (In order to claim that the Christmas Day bomber was forin' and therefore different and therefore Obama screwed up.)

When will the lying stop?

And in another thread they are worried about liberal being condescending? Liberals aren't being tough enough. These creeps really will not stop at anything just to regain power... at all costs.

 

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post #453 of 518
Here's a Doozy.

"...far more of the African American community is being devastated by the policies of today than were being devastated by the policies of slavery."

- Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ)
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Newt Gingrich, GOP, spreading lies again.

Claimed on The Daily Show that the shoe bomber was an American citizen and therefore was read his Miranda rights. (In order to claim that the Christmas Day bomber was forin' and therefore different and therefore Obama screwed up.)

When will the lying stop?

And in another thread they are worried about liberal being condescending? Liberals aren't being tough enough. These creeps really will not stop at anything just to regain power... at all costs.

He probably just meant Jose Padilla and not RR. WHAT A LIAR!
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He probably just meant Jose Padilla and not RR. WHAT A LIAR!

No one called him a liar (well except Bergie -- sorry). We're calling him out as an idiot who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about while he's busy criticizing Obama. That is true whether the mistake he made was that Richard Reid was an American citizen (an idiotic mistake), or that Jose Padilla was the shoe bomber (an equally idiotic mistake).
post #456 of 518
So when Obama says he's "green behind the ears" does that make him a complete idiot that cannot talk right?
post #457 of 518
Again, and again, and again...

http://cbs13.com/local/ashburn.arres...2.1534505.html

It's the fucking hypocrisy. Just makes you want to strangle these fuckers.
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Again, and again, and again...

http://cbs13.com/local/ashburn.arres...2.1534505.html

It's the fucking hypocrisy. Just makes you want to strangle these fuckers.

Well you're right there. They do seem to have cornered the market on hypocritical embarassement. I don't see that stopping since the way the conservative movement ( what passes for it these days ) thinks it has to be so outspoken about their backward beliefs that have little in common with modern society.
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post #459 of 518
Maybe one day some of you will apply the same standard to those who claim to represent the poor but then keep making them dependent, ignorant and end up holding them down instead of raising them up.

Also strangling fuckers... be careful Tonton, Obama's monitoring you since you are outside the U.S. He might go Patriot Act on your ass.

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post #460 of 518
oh look, another right-wing anti gay hypocrite caught just about to take one up the harris. I wonder if they found the crystal meth too?

Its about time that when we hear a winger vocalising a position, that we automatically can take from it that they are doing *exactly* what they are preaching against....

Id bet Wilbur just loves it up the kaiser

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Maybe one day some of you will apply the same standard to those who claim to represent the poor but then keep making them dependent...

Just because it's your belief that that's what happens doesn't make it true.
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Just because it's your belief that that's what happens doesn't make it true.

Very true. However, in this case he is correct.

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Very true. However, in this case he is correct.

So there's consensus on this now, is there?

Just like global warming. You know... because... well... just because!!!!!
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So there's consensus on this now, is there?

Just like global warming. You know... because... well... just because!!!!!

Tell me, how has the "war on poverty" been going?

All one has to do is make an objective, honest observation.

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Tell me, how has the "war on poverty" been going?

What, that the happiest countries in the world with the lowest levels of poverty, highest quality of living and lowest infant mortality rate are all more socialist than the US?

That, my friend, is an observation. Of course you'll just try to wave it off by saying that (1) the US is bigger and it's not possible to run the US the same way countries are run in Europe, or that (2) those countries really aren't so happy, or that (3) they will fail soon... SOON!

Or maybe even that happiness isn't what we should measure things by.
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What, that the happiest countries in the world with the lowest levels of poverty, highest quality of living and lowest infant mortality rate are all more socialist than the US?

That, my friend, is an observation. Of course you'll just try to wave it off by saying that (1) the US is bigger and it's not possible to run the US the same way countries are run in Europe, or that (2) those countries really aren't so happy, or that (3) they will fail soon... SOON!

Or maybe even that happiness isn't what we should measure things by.

Define happiness.

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Define happiness.

Define define. I say this because I'm sure whatever definition he gives you you're going to have a problem with.

 

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Define happiness.

How about not EVER having to worry about being held up at gunpoint, for one?

Oh, unless you visit the US.
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How about not EVER having to worry about being held up at gunpoint, for one?

Oh, unless you visit the US.

Because nobody ever assaults another with anything other than a gun?

Because robbery, assault, and murder only happens in countries where the people have guns?

But my broader point is this: what makes you happy might be very different than what makes someone else happy.

So why do you think a government can impose some arbitrary standard of "happiness" on its people?

Our Declaration of Independence lists a few of the rights that are granted us by our Creator (NOT the government): life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

We have a right to pursue happiness, not be happy.

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post #470 of 518
Legally mandated happiness is coming soon. It's being proposed to deal with Obama's falling approval numbers. Get yer soma ready.
post #471 of 518
It's really amazing some people here seem to be practicing sympathetic magic. If you just chant it enough it'll come true!

Ps. Maybe they have a little Obama voodoo doll.
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It's really amazing some people here seem to be practicing sympathetic magic. If you just chant it enough it'll come true!

Ps. Maybe they have a little Obama voodoo doll.

Your canned response for today is a little off. Don't try so hard.

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Maybe one day some of you will apply the same standard to those who claim to represent the poor but then keep making them dependent, ignorant and end up holding them down instead of raising them up.

Also strangling fuckers... be careful Tonton, Obama's monitoring you since you are outside the U.S. He might go Patriot Act on your ass.

Poor and gay are not in the same category whatsoever.
Poor mixed sex couples can marry in all the states.

Poor people can become wealthy, however gay people can not become straight.

The tortured CA congressman had to live a lie to become a Republican politician. Another strong argument against DADT and conservatism in general. How many people have to deny themselves happiness just so some idiotic Christian asshole won't crucify them.

Jesus was a gay socialist, live with it.
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Jesus was a gay socialist, live with it.

Not sure if Jesus was gay -- he did love Mary Magdelene and have kids with her (though I know that doesn't mean he wasn't gay). Paul was definitely gay. And Jesus was definitely a socialist. Paul was more like the current crop of Republicans. Closeted gay with a huge struggle to suppress and deny his feelings.
post #475 of 518
Eric Massa is a Republican, right? Just checking.

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Eric Massa is a Republican, right? Just checking.

I'm thinking he's not repressing much. Perhaps that's what the difference is between Democrats and Republicans?
post #477 of 518
Maybe the difference is Rahm poking him in the chest to confront him in the shower. I guess the difference might be whether they are showering together or not.

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Maybe the difference is Rahm poking him in the chest to confront him in the shower. I guess the difference might be whether they are showering together or not.

The democrats have open gays - no need for Rahm to hide it if he was gay. The Republicans, however, seem to be a secret cabul of closet gays trying to take over the world.
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post #479 of 518
Yes and they appear to want to do it by outlawing themselves!

So is the claim now that Massa was out of the closet?

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I'm thinking he's not repressing much. Perhaps that's what the difference is between Democrats and Republicans?

Seems the difference is Dems feel it is acceptable for a gay man to molest boys, while Republicans don't.
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