Originally Posted by tonton
Briefly caught a question on syndicated "Power of 10" last night...
What percentage of Americans think we should stay in Iraq and "finish the job"?
The answer: 11%.
It depends on how the question is asked. Ask Americans if we should retreat and let the country be taken over by extremists, or whether should stay as long as needed...you'll get a much different answer.
McCain can't win. Against Obama. Against Hillary. Even Gore or Kerry would beat him this time around.
The "100 years is fine by me!" quote that Dean and the Dems are going to repeat, and repeat, and repeat, is going to kill him.
Again, just not based on the electoral math. It's all based on a feeling of "people don't like Bush, this war," etc. I encourage you to do an objective analysis of how the election would play out in terms of Obama-McCain, and even Hillary-McCain. McCain is likely to win not so much because of who he is, but because of who his opponents are.
Originally Posted by tonton
Define harm. I believe the economic impact is harming Americans every day.
The economic impact of Iraq? Please explain.
And would that be the Al Qaeda that's being trained by Iran?
Oh boy. Here we go with that again. Call them AQ, freedom fighters, extremists, insurgents, whatever. Iran IS arming troops. That is the point.
Al Qaeda is not motivating people to fight Americans... America is.
That's silly. The belief that if we just pack up and go home--then hey, they'll leave us alone is exactly what got us to where we are now in the first place. We did that...for years. And we got attacked anyway...long before Iraq, Afghanistan....anything. They declared war on us and started fighting it. We just didn't pay attention.
Originally Posted by jimmac
Wow! I love your wishful thinking! You see I really don't care if it's Obama or Clinton. Both can beat McCain.
You just don't get it do you? This is the endgame. My feeling about people being fed up isn't vague at all.
Then please support your position with some data. The electoral math says Obama cannot win. It favors Hillary over him. However, Hillary's high negatives and problems with white males is a serious disadvantage. That doesn't begin to take into account the next point....
Also there's not going to be any war within the party.
I actually think you're right, because Obama will win. If he doesn't, just watch.
As soon as the nomination takes place all support will go to that person.
Patently false. There will be a statistically significant number of people that will not vote for Clinton or Obama. It will be worse if she wins, but if he does there will still be some Hillary voters who don't vote...or vote for McCain.
Because they will see the alternative.
That's where I really have to laugh. The alternative is John McCain. John McCain
is SEEN as moderate and mainstream. He's seen as experienced and trustworthy by the general public, whether you personally feel that's accurate or not. McCain will take Regan Democrats/moderates and the vast majority of conservatives. Game over.
Yes I can see you've got it all mapped out ( the way you'd like it to go ).
If you disagree, please post some convincing arguments to the contrary.
And yes you were saying these kinds of things during the 2006 election. You also said the democrats would never take the senate. Well........
Keep it up SDW until the end. I know you will.
Please post my statements then.