Originally Posted by bikertwin
Are you saying you're attracted to females because your body outline "down there" matches hers?
That's not what love--or sex--is all about.
Except that he's never touched or been attracted to a woman's vagina, as he claims. He's not attracted to females. He's shown no evidence of having such an attraction. Who knows, maybe on his wedding night, he might find himself repulsed by a woman's anatomy, or confused by it.
Honestly speaking he's just as likely to be attracted to penises as he is to vaginas. But his family and church have already told him who he should be attracted to (as he's trying to tell us, without having any personal experience on the subject), and he's never tested their theory.
There have actually been fundamentalist Christians who married and tried to have sex literally for years by putting the husband's penis into the wife's navel, they were so ignorant about anatomy.
And there have been homosexual fundamentalist Christians who tried to fight their sexuality, with the help of huge organizations backing them up, and failed. You can't tell me Bussee et. al. were raised in a homosexual-friendly environment that indoctrinated them into becoming homosexuals.
* John Paulk, then leader of Focus on the Family's Love Won Out conference and chairman of the board for Exodus International North America, was photographed in September of 2000 exiting a Washington, D.C. gay bar. This led to Paulk stepping down from the two organizations.
* Michael Johnston, an HIV-positive man who is featured in the film It's Not Gay, promoted by the American Family Association, had frequently been interviewed on U.S. television and radio regarding his claimed change in sexuality, and even featured in a national television advertising campaign in 1998 stating that Jesus Christ empowered him to leave his homosexual past. In 2002, he was exposed as having recently resumed having sex with men, and he admitted to having had unprotected sex with multiple male partners without disclosing his HIV-positive status, despite knowing he that he was HIV-positive, for over a period of two years.
* Exodus International's co-founder Michael Bussee and his partner, a fellow ex-gay counselor, Gary Cooper quit the group and in 1979, held a life commitment ceremony together. Bussee went on to become an outspoken critic of Exodus and the ex-gay movement. He flatly rejects therapies designed to change or "cure" gay people, but recently acknowledged potential for therapy that "does not promise change, but instead offers patients help in managing their desires and modifying their behavior to match their religious values -- even if that means a life of celibacy".
* Colin Cook, founder of Homosexuals Anonymous, was in 1986 discovered to be engaging in sexual acts with his patients. He claimed that the nude massages of other men should desensitize them against homosexual desires. In 1987, he was expelled from Homosexuals Anonymous for sexual activity, and in 1995 a similar scandal happened with his newly founded group FaithQuest Colorado. Cook had engaged in phone sex, practiced long and grinding hugs, and asked patients to bring gay pornography to sessions so that he could help desensitize them against it.
* Christopher Austin was an ex-gay counselor who was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2007 for sexually assaulting a male client. Austin was affiliated with and gave presentations at NARTH and Evergreen International, which describes him as "a therapist specializing in homosexual and sexual addiction recovery [and] the creator of RENEW, a multi-dimensional treatment approach for men struggling with homosexuality".
* Terrance Lewis was a minister and former counsellor at Providence Bible College in Winnipeg, Canada who was found guilty in February 2008 for sexually assaulting a young man who sought counselling to make him straight. The alleged victim, now 29, told court he started meeting Lewis for counselling sessions in early 2000 after his parents caught him viewing gay pornography on the family computer. The man said Lewis started a program of “touch therapy,” which included the two kissing and fondling each other and engaging in sexual roleplaying.