Originally Posted by Sky King
4. God also exists, although no one can prove it to you. If He exists then whatever He chooses to establish as right & wrong (with Him or against Him) is fact and exists as a law. He has chosen to communicate through the Bible. You may choose to reject all this, but if He exists, your opinion of Him and His laws are of no relevance. Likewise your opinion of the Bible and other "faith based" stuff is equally irrelevant.
So what is the point? Homosexuality is denounced in the Bible. Entire civilizations have been destroyed for, among other things, homosexuality (along with other forms of immoral behavior). You can choose to disagree but the truth remains truth and your mind, like mine, is not capable of logically arriving at much of anything. So why not try faith?
Which God is that. Zeus? Shiva? Jewish? Muslim? Thetans? You theists keep inventing new ones every few thousand years. If it was true - wouldn't you all agree on one god or another? You can't even agree on THE TRUTH. Some of you hate Gays, but half the Anglican church *is* gay. They sing YMCA on Sunday.
Yawn yes, no one can disprove any one of these silly God versions. But so what? No one can disprove the flying spaghetti monster. They are equally childish stories.
Have you noticed how each culture invents a slightly different version? Does this not suggest that it is a cultural invention. Designed with the specific intention of beefing-up mere human law with some supernatural authority.
Here's the thing you guys keep missing.
Faith is evil. Or at the very least, faith paves the way to evil.
Faith is about willingly rejecting rationality in favor of pre-written scripture. Morally that is indefensible. Morality demands that your actions should be evaluated on the basis of consequence and context.
But the faithful are excused the difficult job of thinking though their actions. Instead they inherit a ready-made mix of prefabricated rights and wrongs. The consequences of this are nothing short of horrendous we see:
Churches who disregard genocide.
Religions leaders denouncing condom usage despite the threat of fatal disease.
Young women stoned to death for falling in love.
National heroes shamed into suicide because of their sexuality.
This is what faith does. This stuff is not just bad, it is pure evil, because it is performed deliberately by people who carry no remorse.
Instead of looking into their own conscience for guidance, they look to a old book full of myth, and prophecy and nonsense, written in a time of ignorance.