Originally Posted by solipsism
Fine print aside, the contract you have with your carrier only gives YOU access to unlimited/unlimited data. If Apple has signed a contract that states that they can't compete with the mobile operator in a certain way or use their service in a particular manor then Apple must abide by that, regardless of what you desire.
I never implied that my contract stipulated anything outside of dealing with me. I have no idea what Apple signed or agreed to, but if you do then by all means speak up. If my operator says unlimited data, I can assume that he is not going to "packet tag" and trace my traffic and then say: "nope, these are coming from Apple, better limit that". I just don't see that happening. I am speaking of my operator here in Finland. Where I go next, maybe but that would not be unlimited data. It would be unlimited data with conditions. That would have to be stated in the contract I would say.
Yes it is, but before that data is YOUR data, it's someone else's data. We may not mind waiting 10 minutes for a song but the carrier might. You say you are "not sure about the contract thing," but do you really have to have in-depth knowledge of the contract to know that Apple had to concede to certain limitations to get onboard with the current carriers? If you were selling ringtones for $3.99 and offering a unlimited/unlimited data plan for half the price of your other phones would you really allow the excessive purchases of music and ringtones for $.99? If data is data and unlimited is unlimited and you can do what you should be given the choice then you should be allowed to purchase TV shows and movies over that same data network, too.? Can't you see how this there is more than the end-user's contract is involved here?
True the data belongs to someone else but my agreeing to pay for access to any and all data that I want for an unlimited amount of time with no limitations pretty much says I can stay connected all the time as long as I pay my bill. I see this happening daily with personal friends, and co-workers at the embassy who purchase 3G modems and plug them into their computers and run them constantly. So, it is pretty obvious the operators do not mind as they are selling these products for this permitted usage.
Again, your agreement is for you, not for other's trying to piggyback on that network. There is a reason that the iPhone can't be tethered with a Mac when OS X has had the convenient Internet Sharing for so many years now. While there are countries with plans like Finland there are also plenty of countries that seem to have worse plans than the US. Finland's population density and progressive network does not appear to represent the whole of Europe.
I never said FInland represented all of Europe. My statements surrounded my experience living here and how I utilize my unlimited data connection from my GSM operator. Maybe you inferred a bit more than I was saying. Regardless, I was not in the meetings with Apple when the decision to tether the iPhone was left out. Maybe it was an oversight that will be corrected in the new iPhone. Once again, it does not matter to me. I have an N82 that tethers just fine, and doubles as my Internet connection device while away from home.
If iTunes Store is allowed to be used over the cell networks then you can bet they will be. I don't see why anyone would think Apple could benefit from not allowing its use.
I see this happening for sure, if it is allowed from Apple. I am sure my operator here in Finland will not mind, but then again, I am not privy to those decision.