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post #41 of 107
5/28/08 at 1:47pm
Anyone know if Front Row no longer freezes? that bug is killing my entertainment system...

EDIT: The bug is when you play music for about half an hour or so. You guys know what I'm talking about?
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post #42 of 107
5/28/08 at 1:47pm
It appears the ability to send SMS via the address book has returned, or I did not notice it in 10.5.2.
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post #43 of 107
5/28/08 at 1:53pm
A mere 420 megs on a G4, and that is not the combo! It is/was running 10.5.2.
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post #44 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:01pm
Update:
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Mac OS X 10.5.3 Combo Update is now available as a stand alone updater of 536 MB, while the delta updater weigh in at 420MB.

See: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/
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post #45 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:09pm
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Wifi still not working

It fixed my wifi problems. When ever I put my AE on '"N only" I would drop the connection all the time. Seems to be working now.
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post #46 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:11pm
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I don't know who to believe on this issue. I was told by a so-called Genius to always perform permissions repairs after updates. It's a bit of arcana I'm not really sure anyone can answer.

It is not often critical but one issue is that files that should be root write end up with user write privileges. This could be considered a security vulnerability. The inverse though could cause crashes if an application needs to write to a file that it does not have permission to. In either case it is a good thing to know if you have permission problems. Each installer is supposed to put a list of files and default permissions in the Library which is what Disk Utility reads when it verifies permissions.

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post #47 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:16pm
It is good that apple keeps updating Leopard, my 24' Imac 2.8. GHz used to be slow these last few days , Iit was so annoying having to wait!
but since I updated to 10.5.3 its much faster now!
thanks Apple
can't wait for the new Iphone!
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post #48 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:25pm
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Wifi still not working

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It fixed my wifi problems. When ever I put my AE on '"N only" I would drop the connection all the time. Seems to be working now.

People who complain of WiFi problems usually have an issue with conflicting frequencies more than an issue with their drivers or HW. Have you run iStumbler to see how many other networks are all trying to use the same channel? I often see more tahn half the available routers on Channel 6, which I think is Linksys' default.


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It is not often critical but one issue is that files that should be root write end up with user write privileges. This could be considered a security vulnerability. The inverse though could cause crashes if an application needs to write to a file that it does not have permission to. In either case it is a good thing to know if you have permission problems. Each installer is supposed to put a list of files and default permissions in the Library which is what Disk Utility reads when it verifies permissions.

I do it after an install, it doesn't take long and there are almost always permissions that need to be fixed.

What is disappointing is the SUID files that still appear and the excesive duration it takes to complete a permissions repair and Disk Verify in Leopard.
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post #49 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:38pm
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People who complain of WiFi problems usually have an issue with conflicting frequencies more than an issue with their drivers or HW. Have you run iStumbler to see how many other networks are all trying to use the same channel? I often see more tahn half the available routers on Channel 6, which I think is Linksys' default.

Yeah, I did that when I first set up my Airport Extreme. My setup did work fine on the b/g compatible 2.4ghz option, but when you switch it 5ghz "N only" it would drop out alot. And it dosent give you the option to switch the channels when you have 5ghz "N only" selected. Just says "Automatic"
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post #50 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:44pm
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Yeah, I did that when I first set up my Airport Extreme. My setup did work fine on the b/g compatible 2.4ghz option, but when you switch it 5ghz "N only" it would drop out alot. And it dosent give you the option to switch the channels when you have 5ghz "N only" selected. Just says "Automatic"

Gotcha. And the b/g is where you're more likely to get the interference. That does seem like an issue with the driver. Have you tried other .11n computers or a different .11n router?
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post #51 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:46pm
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What is disappointing is the SUID files that still appear and the excesive duration it takes to complete a permissions repair and Disk Verify in Leopard.

The bigger the disk/more files the longer it takes. It isn't Leopard because it takes a long time in Linux and Windows too. A fast machine doesn't help much because it is limited by disk read/write speeds not cpu.

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post #52 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:49pm
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Check that the preferences are still enabled. Some reports filtering in of reset prefs.

Okay...that's odd... I was responding to MinkPod, whose post is after mine.
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post #53 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:49pm
Just did the update on my Penryn MBP and my trackpad gestures no longer work. I can still 2 finger scroll but i cant pinch, rotate or swipe. Anyone else have this problem?
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post #54 of 107
5/28/08 at 2:58pm
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Just did the update on my Penryn MBP and my trackpad gestures no longer work. I can still 2 finger scroll but i cant pinch, rotate or swipe. Anyone else have this problem?

Did you double-check the trackpad preferences? There are separate settings for the 2-finger scroll and those other options. Maybe some got turned off. (Sorry if I'm pointing on the obvious, but thought I'd mention it just in case.)
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post #55 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:01pm
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Yeah, I did that when I first set up my Airport Extreme. My setup did work fine on the b/g compatible 2.4ghz option, but when you switch it 5ghz "N only" it would drop out alot. And it dosent give you the option to switch the channels when you have 5ghz "N only" selected. Just says "Automatic"

How is your line of sight to the router? 5 GHz doesn't penetrate walls and other objects as well as 2.4 GHz will. Generally speaking, lower frequencies have better penetration through objects. Could also try turning off wide channels which should theoretically increase your range.
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post #56 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:09pm
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The bigger the disk/more files the longer it takes. It isn't Leopard because it takes a long time in Linux and Windows too. A fast machine doesn't help much because it is limited by disk read/write speeds not cpu.

I wish it was an issue with having a larger disc. It's a 120GB MB HDD. It took considerably shorter time with Tiger and with the Leopard developer builds. I've even formatted to eliminate any issues from going from 10.5.0 developer to 10.5.0 retail. Still the same issue.
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post #57 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:22pm
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I can only hope and pray that it fixes Apple Mail issues for me and lots of other users in our company. Especially when sending attachments. Just had a problem before I came home today with a guy sending a bog standard email which simply would not send. He had made some of the text bold. I simply re-typed it and did not change any aspect of the font and it went but this sort of stuff has been ongoing for us for some time. Anyone else totally brassed off with Mail?

Just wondering...

Strange, I have had an impeccable record with Mail. One of the most stable, reliable mail clients out there. I work in an ad agency and often use Mail to send formatted, attached emails internally and externally and can't off hand recall a single failure...

I'm sure this varies immensely though.
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post #58 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:28pm
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Thank god they fixed that.

Well sometimes it is the little things that we may overlook to complain about that make all the difference when they're fixed.
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post #59 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:34pm
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Anyone know if Front Row no longer freezes? that bug is killing my entertainment system...

EDIT: The bug is when you play music for about half an hour or so. You guys know what I'm talking about?

On the topic of Front Row:

Has anyone noticed that after adding a movie / episode file to the movies folder, anything over 300mb, Front Row can sometimes take an age to load this file. I know Front Row uses QuickTime as the player and the same experience is had using the program in the OS, but if I load this in VLC, it loads almost instantly.

Apologies if this subject is covered elsewhere, I have yet to find a forum discussion..
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post #60 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:35pm
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mine said 198MB...is that bad?

hmm...

I had that on two (a G5 and a MacBook) and it would abort installation. Had to download the 420MB file from the Apple site manually since "Software Update" would always try to open the corrupted 198MB file.
Afterwards installation from that download was no problem.
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post #61 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:41pm
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Software Update saves the downloaded package for installation until the installation is completed - you have to remove the corrupted package to force it to re-grab it. Not on a 10.5 machine at the moment to check, but I *think* it's in /Library/Caches/Software Update...
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post #62 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:46pm
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I wish it was an issue with having a larger disc. It's a 120GB MB HDD. It took considerably shorter time with Tiger and with the Leopard developer builds. I've even formatted to eliminate any issues from going from 10.5.0 developer to 10.5.0 retail. Still the same issue.

Are you sure it's actually a problem and not taking longer because it's testing more things than before?

How often do you check and fix permissions? It's not the kind of thing you have to do often, if it takes a really long time just start it up before you go to bed.
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post #63 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post

You're good.

The Combo updater is the Everything-And-The-Kitchen-Sink-For-All-Mac-Models massive package. It will update any Mac from 10.5, 10.5.1 or 10.5.2, to 10.5.3.

If you go through Software Update, it will go grab just the pieces needed for *your* model of Mac, to upgrade from whatever OS version *your* Mac is at.

Hence the different sizes reported.

Some people like to always use a Combo Update, since it can take care of possible errors in previous updates, but those are very rare. Let Software Update do its thing, and 99.99% of the time, it works just as it should.

So, you're saying that one time in ten thousand, it won't work just as it should?
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post #64 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:51pm
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Title and button bars in Safari and Mail are still illegibly dark. i still have to deselect the window I'm in so I can read the tabs in Safari. Why is it that the SELECTED window frame goes dark and the DESELECTED window frames go light? Why can't it be the other way around? Is there a way of fixing this?


I suspect something's up with your screen. What display are you using? What is the brightness set to? Are you using the correct display profile?
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post #65 of 107
5/28/08 at 3:53pm
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So, you're saying that one time in ten thousand, it won't work just as it should?

How did I know that someone was going to pounce on that...

Substitute whatever number you wish that is suitable to convey the general message "The vast majority of the time, for the vast majority of people, it works, but it's not perfect." If part of you is unhappy with that number, recurse until you are, or you get tired of arguing with yourself.
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post #66 of 107
5/28/08 at 4:08pm
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Are you sure it's actually a problem and not taking longer because it's testing more things than before?

How often do you check and fix permissions? It's not the kind of thing you have to do often, if it takes a really long time just start it up before you go to bed.

There is something else going on. I can run it again and the same thing will happen. It's not a big deal, just an occasional annoying hiccup.


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Software Update saves the downloaded package for installation until the installation is completed - you have to remove the corrupted package to force it to re-grab it. Not on a 10.5 machine at the moment to check, but I *think* it's in /Library/Caches/Software Update...

I thought it was /Library/Receipts/boms/com.apple.pkg.update.os.10.5.3.bom, but that is just me guessing. When I look at the BOM with pacifist it looks like all the pieces that were just updated.
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post #67 of 107
5/28/08 at 4:09pm
i hope they have finally fixed the iTunes-coverflow related freezes which occur on newer MBPs.
Trying to make iTunes go nuts right now..
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post #68 of 107
5/28/08 at 4:23pm
Just installed the patch and low and behold, all of my past, present and future Entourage calendar appointments were duplicated.

That sucks!
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post #69 of 107
5/28/08 at 4:53pm
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Everything feels snappier! Safari opens... Boom!

Actually I notice no speed difference in anything except repairing disk permissions. 2.4ghz iMac.

Maybe it's because my iMac is so blazingly fast that I will never notice a speed increase ever again.

Yeah I know the feeling. My MacBook is sooo blazing fast that I too will never notice a speed increase ever again.
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post #70 of 107
5/28/08 at 5:05pm
I cant check right now, but has the Wine openGL linking issue been fixed.
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post #71 of 107
5/28/08 at 6:03pm
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Just installed it and no problems for me......

No problems here either. It is nice to see Mail fixes but I'd like to see some feature adds. I also hoped Safari would have been updated too but since that's cross platform that all separate now.

Interesting to hear at D6 that Windows 7 will incorporate multi-touch in late 2009 (read 2012). I'm sure OSX 10.6 will incorporate the same thing. We'll hopefully find out in a few weeks what to expect.
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post #72 of 107
5/28/08 at 6:19pm
PowerBook 12inch 1.25GHz

after 10.5.3 update (via Software Update)

the display remains off when waking from sleep.

the sleep light goes off, and i can hear the HD and fan start, but the display stays blank.

sucks to be me. anyone else have similar issues?
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post #73 of 107
5/28/08 at 6:27pm
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No problems here either. It is nice to see Mail fixes but I'd like to see some feature adds. I also hoped Safari would have been updated too but since that's cross platform that all separate now.

Interesting to hear at D6 that Windows 7 will incorporate multi-touch in late 2009 (read 2012). I'm sure OSX 10.6 will incorporate the same thing. We'll hopefully find out in a few weeks what to expect.

MS has a much bigger uphill battle for multi-touch that Apple has, but I don't see the mouse being obsolesced anytime soon, at least not on a consumer level. As usual MS showcased empty fireworks.

I hope the next Safari update—for Mac and mobile OS X—includes the WebKit update that allows for faster loading of pages by using preloading.

"The latest WebKit nightlies contain some new optimizations to reduce the impact of network latency. When script loading halts the main parser, we start up a side parser that goes through the rest of the HTML source to find more resources to load. We also prioritize resources so that scripts and stylesheets load before images. The overall effect is that we are now able to load more resources in parallel with scripts, including other scripts."

For those not aware of the WebKit nightly builds, give it a try: http://webkit.org/
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post #74 of 107
5/28/08 at 6:29pm
After the update Time Machine complains that the backup volume could not be mounted. I can browse the disk just fine with Finder though.

I can not enter the Time Machine either. I re-selected the drive with the Change Disk option, but as soon as I select Back Up Now, I get an error message:

[CENTER]Time Machine Error
The backup volume could not be mounted.
[/CENTER]

MBP - APE 802.11n + 350GB LaCie HD. worked just fine up until the upgrade :-(

This is a little disappointing...

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post #75 of 107
5/28/08 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by OllieWallieWhiskers View Post

the sleep light goes off, and i can hear the HD and fan start, but the display stays blank.
sucks to be me. anyone else have similar issues?

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After the update Time Machine complains that the backup volume could not be mounted. I can browse the disk just fine with Finder though.

Restart your machine and see if it still occurs.

If you have and it does, then grab the Combo Updater and try again.
http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...mboupdate.html
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post #76 of 107
5/28/08 at 7:04pm
Since 10.4.x, Every time I update my Mac to the latest OS I get series of Sync conflicts with iCal and Entourage. Any idea how to get rid of them? I review them and choose the Entourage version of the event. Then when I open Entourage it has all of my calendar events in duplicate! It is a pain to delete them all and it happens every time I update OSX.
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post #77 of 107
5/28/08 at 7:11pm
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Since 10.4.x, Every time I update my Mac to the latest OS I get series of Sync conflicts with iCal and Entourage. Any idea how to get rid of them? I review them and choose the Entourage version of the event. Then when I open Entourage it has all of my calendar events in duplicate! It is a pain to delete them all and it happens every time I update OSX.

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http://www.entourage.mvps.org/troubl...cservices.html
• http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=68866
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post #78 of 107
5/28/08 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by godrifle View Post

But where oh where is 10.5.3 server?

When I logged onto my X-Serve using ARD, the update was awaiting my command to install. The upgrade worked without a hitch, but I did have to copy Remote Monitor from the server back to my MBP as the old version would instantly crash upon trying to connect to the server. Although the 10.5.2 versions of Remote Admin and Workgroup Manager seemed to work, the size did change, so I copied those over as well.


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5/28/08 at 7:17pm
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When I logged onto my X-Serve using ARD, the update was awaiting my command to install.

The Server update became available about 4 hours after his post.

There is also a RAW camera support and Security Update to grab tonight.
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5/28/08 at 8:33pm
Does anyone know if Apple is still maintaing the list of iSync compatible phones at http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/isync/index.html? Supposedly they added a few new phones (Samsung, I think) with this update. But while the title of that page says "Mac OS X Leopard", the bottom of the page says, "Devices listed are compatible with iSync 2.4 (Mac OS X 10.4.9) and are subject to change." The version of iSync in Leopard is 3.0.

Is the list of phones on that page current? Does it include the phones added in 10.5.3?
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