Originally Posted by midwinter
This is goalpost moving. You asked; I answered. But Clinton was most decidedly NOT in the same fog
as BushCo. While everyone was embroiled in the Lewinski affair, Clinton bombed al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan—which Limbaugh lampooned as blowing up an aspirin factory to distract from the impeachment craziness. To claim that Clinton was in the same fog as BushCo is uninformed at best and deliberately dishonest at worst.
Goalpost moving, again. You asked; I answered. These are things he could have done and didn't do. And I'm particularly fond of the last bit there: Bush couldn't have done anything because everyone he hired was incompetent?
I'm pretty sure I said something up there about renewable sources of energy. I didn't mention this one: battery technology. I, for one, would like to see a few billions dumped into that. We can make all the energy we need; we just can't store it.
But again, this is all goalpost moving. Bush could have done something and didn't.
You asked about Bush, not Pelosi or Obama.
Goalpost moving, my royal American ass, Clinton had no idea that AQ was anywhere near as dangerous as it was, and had -- what -- three years to figure it out? Bush had eight months -- and still had no ideas either, except maybe to bomb Afghanistan more often. 9/11 was the quintessential failure of groupthink; it isn't arguable any other way -- institutionally speaking, no one
saw it coming.Worldwide,
no one saw it coming.
But in any case, it isn't going to bring down the price of oil, or give Americans a positive savings rate.
On Afghanistan, it's not winnable -- by anyone. NATO isn't having any luck either. Unless you mean it as "going after Bin Laden." I've already said that, unless BushCo is silently working miracles in befriending India, or Iraq suddenly blossoms into some sort of cultural touchstone, that he and his people are completely incompetent. That said, the world's biggest debtor nation is going through exactly the same [analogous] thing Britain went through a century ago -- and no president can stop China, or Russia, or India -- or Venezuela for that matter -- from bringing their natural/labor resources to bear. We are losing our influence; it would have been nice to have a foreign policy that at least softens that blow.
But his policy in Afghanistan isn't going to keep us from comic levels of bad debt, or force us to educate to the same standards as India.
The thing with "what is Bush doing for renewable energy" is a canard. I read in BHO's mission statement that ShawnJ linked to, that he is going to 'mandate a 50% increase in fuel efficiency by 2030.' Really?
All that's stopping us from rewriting the laws of thermodynamics and the fact the internal combustion engine is the most efficient thing we know of, is some government mandate? Even under Bush, and before we spend millions in research a year. You make it sound the the combined interests of worldwide R&D have no interest in a holy grail of that magnitude. What do you think the world's scientists are looking for, how harness butterfly hormones to improve tractor pull attendance?
And, no you can't leave out Pelosi, or the bueracracy, or the groupthink -- we were just fine making everybody happy with the ethanol placebo. Everybody was patting themselves on the back for being so green, when in reality it was just a convenient way of making the farmers and oil companies happy. Pelosi promised you lovely lefties the world -- and didn't deliver anything
-- they preached "Change" till they were blue in the face, and knew good and well that it was empty rhetoric to support a power grab. When people like her or BHO can descend into chronic anti-intellectualism, that will flunk any freshman out of Econ 10 -- grill oil executives over 'why they keep the price of gas so high' -- it actually becomes impossible to deal with the realities of the situation.
Point being, no one is doing anything, and no one is going
to anything until we get to a crisis -- which they will be more than happy to "save" us from by adding more layers of bureaucracy, and lengthening the Federal tentacles. That isn't going to change, either.
To sum, Bush or Clinton or BHO can do very little to change anything, and have no incentive to do so. They have every incentive to increase Federal power by allowing things to become perversely distorted before acting. They can't make us eat right, lose weight, save money, educate better, and they can't intervene in worldwide fungible commodity markets, or control the price of other commodities, or mandate scientific innovation -- the market is always going to be years ahead of them.
It's all a sham to make people feel like they are incontrol -- when the dirty little secret is that we are our own problems.